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Post by birddog on Mar 5, 2009 16:22:32 GMT -5
Get rid of the OBR!
PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by hoosiernavy29 on Mar 5, 2009 16:32:50 GMT -5
I would really like to see the Earn a Buck come into play, I know of to many people that are all about antlers and never shoot a doe. Also this would elevate doing away with the OBR. You can say what you want and try to point fingers at the OBR rule, but it by far is the best thing Indiana has done for the deer hunter. The amount of large quality deer have risen by leaps and bounds. Sure there alot of meat hunters out there, and will shoot a small spike or 4 pt, that is fine, its a trophy in the eyes of the beholder. I think if we have a quick knee jerk reaction and say do away with OBR entirely we will be taking a step in the wrong direction.
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Post by Hoosier Hunter on Mar 5, 2009 18:21:42 GMT -5
You can say what you want and try to point fingers at the OBR rule, but it by far is the best thing Indiana has done for the deer hunter.
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Post by den57 on Mar 5, 2009 19:19:39 GMT -5
+2
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Post by johnc911 on Mar 5, 2009 20:02:13 GMT -5
I invite any of you to come hunt my county for a while. Absolutely no way i would support earn a buck. Your lucky if you even get a doe in gun range, yet alone bow range. Earn a buck is stupid.
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Post by duff on Mar 5, 2009 20:40:33 GMT -5
I hunted for the last 3 years on the Newport Depot and let me tell you there are good deer numbers in there. They made that place an "earn a buck" type hunting and it reallly prevented me from taking some true trophy sized animals. So even in areas where deer numbers are good, EAB is wrong. I know you all are talking mainly about the second buck for a season or whatever but that is my experience with the way it is set up. There were guys every year that didn't take a deer because they never could get that first doe. It wasn't like these guys were slouch hunters either, just the luck of the hunt sometimes. We hunted nearly every weekend out there too!
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Post by huxbux on Mar 5, 2009 22:30:03 GMT -5
You can say what you want and try to point fingers at the OBR rule, but it by far is the best thing Indiana has done for the deer hunter. You really should qualify that statement with "in my opinion". It would go down much easier.
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Post by Decatur on Mar 6, 2009 3:07:36 GMT -5
You can say what you want and try to point fingers at the OBR rule, but it by far is the best thing Indiana has done for the deer hunter. You really should qualify that statement with "in my opinion". It would go down much easier.
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Post by gundude on Mar 6, 2009 8:10:20 GMT -5
AHHHHHH the truth can often be a very bitter pill to swallow!
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Post by hoosiernavy29 on Mar 6, 2009 8:12:00 GMT -5
Johnc911, I understand your plight not seeing deer in Hancock, I know TrapperDave which hunts there knows your pain,I also hunt 2 of the lowest county harvest rates, I am specifically saying that if something is needed to be changed in the regs to help with the 30 counties with the highest car deer collisons that they be tagged to be an Earn-a-Buck, as in my post I know of several people that have hunted over the last 10 years and have never taken a doe, not good management. Also weather I put in my opinion or whatever it is, the truth is that the IDNR did the right thing with installing the OBR, most of the compliants that I and others hear about the OBR are site specific, which I understand it is human nature to worry about ones self and not the bigger picture.
The next set I foresee that the IDNR needs to take is a telecheck system or something along the lines to where they can actually get some more concrete data on what is actually harvested to even help better manage the resource we all enjoy going after in whatever scope, weather it be for a trophy or meat.
I am not trying to turn this into a p****** contest, its not about that, we are all sportsman that enjoy taking to the woods and chasing this great animal, that encompasses our world, some more than others, if we all don't come together in some manner then we leave it open to others to regulate it, IE This bill to be excat.
Hope everyone has a great weekend, BRING ON SPRING, Need to get out and chase some Thunderchickens.
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Post by gundude on Mar 6, 2009 8:39:31 GMT -5
Ok back to the issue at hand. HB1585........ Looks like we are having an impact on that one! Thanks to all that are helping to stop it! S.B.11 in another one we need to watch and make sure it passes.... Anybody hear anything on this one lately?
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Post by johnc911 on Mar 6, 2009 8:45:54 GMT -5
Come on gundude we were having a good earn a buck talk
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Post by jackc99 on Mar 6, 2009 9:00:37 GMT -5
Ok back to the issue at hand. HB1585........ Looks like we are having an impact on that one! Thanks to all that are helping to stop it! S.B.11 in another one we need to watch and make sure it passes.... Anybody hear anything on this one lately? SB011 passed the Senate 42-8 and sent to the House and assigned to the Courts and Criminal Code Committee. No hearing scheduled yet. Jack
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Post by freedomhunter on Mar 6, 2009 10:55:46 GMT -5
Earn a buck would probably be more logical for a second buck. That would help people in areas without a lot of deer.
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Post by mullis56 on Mar 6, 2009 12:24:19 GMT -5
My sources (a guy on DNR advisory committee, had dinner with him last night) indicated that what he is hearing this deal will be squashed in the Senate. He also indicated that at the original committee meeting, that pushed this bill to life and into to the house, there were zero supporters for this bill that spoke or at this meeting and in his mind the palms were already greased to push forward with it, but he is confident this will get squashed in the Senate. Let's hope!
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Post by Hoosier Hunter on Mar 6, 2009 13:28:36 GMT -5
what he is hearing this deal will be squashed in the Senate. That's some good news Donnie.
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Post by hoosiernavy29 on Mar 6, 2009 15:16:58 GMT -5
Heck yes, kill this thing and lets get to some productive stuff.
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Post by muddyfork on Mar 6, 2009 18:32:40 GMT -5
I invite any of you to come hunt my county for a while. Absolutely no way i would support earn a buck. Your lucky if you even get a doe in gun range, yet alone bow range. Earn a buck is stupid. Understand the meaning of "another"? Here's my entire post for the third time read it really slow! "Here's some "solution". Open up bow season in SEPTEMBER!!! Make the counties with the high deer numbers an "earn another buck" Have it written if your take four does in two years you earn another buck. " That means in the counties with to many deer if you take four does in two years you can buy another buck tag on top of the one you already get each year. Like if you hunt Washington County in 2009 and kill four does and one buck then in 2010 you can buy two buck tags or if you take one doe and one buck in 2009 and in 2010 you take three does and a buck then in 2011 you can buy two buck tags.
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Post by huxbux on Mar 6, 2009 20:20:13 GMT -5
Personally, I'd rather not make the regs any more convoluted than they already are. I don't want to have to hire a lawyer every season to wade through the laws and decipher them for me.
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Post by muddyfork on Mar 7, 2009 10:04:40 GMT -5
It doesn't have to be that hard, but if you get confused and don't want to participate then don't. The IDNR should already be keeping track of the does and bucks each of us take all they would have to do is mail us a letter saying we can buy an extra buck tag for that year. IT'S NOT HARD AT ALL.
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