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Post by onebentarrow on Dec 14, 2020 14:38:48 GMT -5
The place I hunted out west was a private farm we paid 300 for lopes and 500 for mules it came with a place to shower a barn to hang deer and butcher and a lot of good times We did tons of work for the owner on top of that price I felt for two weeks out of the year it was worth it and I’d still be paying it gladly had his son not took over Honestly very few people have the time or money to go out west and find deer elk 2 or 3 times before they go hunting I had a guy living there that told me every thing I needed to know It really depends on how you look at it tons of free ground out west but I had 7 miles x 11 miles and I only shared it with the guys that went with me People pay 3 or 4 times that to rent a condominium or lake cottage for vacation go to Disney land if you think hunting is expensive Around me you could nock on a 100 doors and not find ground lots of small family farms they almost all hunt have kids or friends hunting on their land Do I like it no not at all but you just can’t blame land owners for this we did it to ourselves but I love hunting and if that what it takes I’ll probably be in line hopefully it never comes to that Like I stated in my post. What you described was a vacation and a cheep one for what you got. I guess I should re phrase my post. I will not lease ground at exorbitant prices to hunt. I have hunted ohio where I paid an excess fee for 4 days to hunt on a do it your self hunt but there again that was a vacation for me. Cheap and fun and deer harvested were iceing on the cake. Onebentarrow
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Post by greghopper on Dec 14, 2020 14:49:17 GMT -5
True but 44 years isn't a blink of an eye either. I will not pay to hunt deer. I paid for a put and take a few years up at Glendale FWA so I can't say I've never paid EVER but I think that's a bit different. Like I said....never is a very long time. Good luck with that. If we ever go to a shorter gun and muzzleloader seasons then things could change for many for the good and bad... leasing will speed up for sure. IMO!
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Post by Ahawkeye on Dec 14, 2020 14:53:14 GMT -5
Like I said....never is a very long time. Good luck with that. If we ever go to a shorter gun and muzzleloader seasons then things could change for many for the good and bad... leasing will speed up for sure. IMO! Why?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2020 14:55:17 GMT -5
The good news (LOL) is there are less hunters so there should be lower lease rates. Someday there might be more farm lease land than hunters.
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Post by greghopper on Dec 14, 2020 15:05:51 GMT -5
If we ever go to a shorter gun and muzzleloader seasons then things could change for many for the good and bad... leasing will speed up for sure. IMO! Why? Bigger deer and bigger deer herd will be what speeds up the leasing IMO
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Post by Ahawkeye on Dec 14, 2020 15:37:45 GMT -5
Bigger deer and bigger deer herd will be what speeds up the leasing IMO Is there anything in the works for this to happen? Seems the DNR is going in the opposite direction right now. Wouldn't bother me one bit for a shorter gun season. I agree bigger bucks bigger herd but a guy on public would see a marked change as well.
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Post by greghopper on Dec 14, 2020 15:41:14 GMT -5
Bigger deer and bigger deer herd will be what speeds up the leasing IMO Is there anything in the works for this to happen? Seems the DNR is going in the opposite direction right now. Wouldn't bother me one bit for a shorter gun season. I agree bigger bucks bigger herd but a guy on public would see a marked change as well. He sure would.... more hunters!
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Post by jjas on Dec 14, 2020 15:44:40 GMT -5
Bigger deer and bigger deer herd will be what speeds up the leasing IMO Is there anything in the works for this to happen? Seems the DNR is going in the opposite direction right now. Wouldn't bother me one bit for a shorter gun season. I agree bigger bucks bigger herd but a guy on public would see a marked change as well. There was a push for shorter gun seasons back in 2012 or so, but it didn't happen. I personally hope it never does. I like Indiana's seasons the way they are. As far as the DNR "going in the opposite direction" that isn't true. The gun and muzzleloader seasons have been this way for years. The only thing that fluctuates is the number of counties that qualify for the late antlerless season. This season that number is very low and should have little impact on the overall harvest.
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Post by Ahawkeye on Dec 14, 2020 15:44:53 GMT -5
Maybe at the parking lot but not where I hunt.😜
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Post by treetop on Dec 14, 2020 16:17:16 GMT -5
Is there anything in the works for this to happen? Seems the DNR is going in the opposite direction right now. Wouldn't bother me one bit for a shorter gun season. I agree bigger bucks bigger herd but a guy on public would see a marked change as well. There was a push for shorter gun seasons back in 2012 or so, but it didn't happen. I personally hope it never does. I like Indiana's seasons the way they are. As far as the DNR "going in the opposite direction" that isn't true. The gun and muzzleloader seasons have been this way for years. The only thing that fluctuates is the number of counties that qualify for the late antlerless season. This season that number is very low and should have little impact on the overall harvest. Unless I looked at it wrong I think all but two are in the late doe hunt
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Post by duff on Dec 14, 2020 16:17:28 GMT -5
I understand everyone's position except the idea that paying for hunting access is equivalent to buying love....that speaks volumes.
I do a lot of DIY projects because I don't want to pay more. But if the condition be it scope of project, time, skill or gumption dictates I will pay the pro.
This is no different. The reason leasing is growing is same reason there are fast food restaurants. Sure we can make a hamburger and fries but some choose to let Ronald McDonald do that for them.
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Post by treetop on Dec 14, 2020 16:24:46 GMT -5
There was a push for shorter gun seasons back in 2012 or so, but it didn't happen. I personally hope it never does. I like Indiana's seasons the way they are. As far as the DNR "going in the opposite direction" that isn't true. The gun and muzzleloader seasons have been this way for years. The only thing that fluctuates is the number of counties that qualify for the late antlerless season. This season that number is very low and should have little impact on the overall harvest. 2 counties are 0 10 are 1 Most of them NE the rest of the state is 2 or 3 sounds like we could still kill a lot of deer
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Post by greghopper on Dec 14, 2020 16:28:39 GMT -5
There was a push for shorter gun seasons back in 2012 or so, but it didn't happen. I personally hope it never does. I like Indiana's seasons the way they are. As far as the DNR "going in the opposite direction" that isn't true. The gun and muzzleloader seasons have been this way for years. The only thing that fluctuates is the number of counties that qualify for the late antlerless season. This season that number is very low and should have little impact on the overall harvest. Unless I looked at it wrong I think all but two are in the late doe hunt That’s correct.... you can shoot your does in October or wait till December... 2-3 equates to 2-3 either time! Plus the public likes the late season per response to survey reports
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Post by featherduster on Dec 14, 2020 16:50:25 GMT -5
OK...OK So what is the going rate for love now a days and do we have any photos?
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Post by Ahawkeye on Dec 14, 2020 16:53:08 GMT -5
In my opinion the state shoots too many does to grow the herd. The DNR and the insurance companies want the herd reduced.
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Post by greghopper on Dec 14, 2020 17:06:54 GMT -5
In my opinion the state shoots too many does to grow the herd. The DNR and the insurance companies want the herd reduced. We are not in a reduction mode any longer... we are in a maintain mode that’s why the antler less permits have gone down the last few years If anyone thinks we are going back to a larger herd down the road you maybe in for a surprise!
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Post by Ahawkeye on Dec 14, 2020 17:14:09 GMT -5
In my opinion the state shoots too many does to grow the herd. The DNR and the insurance companies want the herd reduced. We are not in a reduction mode any longer... we are in a maintain mode that’s why the antler less permits have gone down the last few years If anyone thinks we are going back to a larger herd down the road you maybe in for a surprise! No I don't think we're headed that way. That's for sure. I think the fewer antlerless tags are more due to EHD in the recent past though.
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Post by Ahawkeye on Dec 14, 2020 17:24:55 GMT -5
OK...OK So what is the going rate for love now a days and do we have any photos? I don't care who you are that's some funny stuff right there!
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Post by greghopper on Dec 14, 2020 17:55:29 GMT -5
We are not in a reduction mode any longer... we are in a maintain mode that’s why the antler less permits have gone down the last few years If anyone thinks we are going back to a larger herd down the road you maybe in for a surprise! No I don't think we're headed that way. That's for sure. I think the fewer antlerless tags are more due to EHD in the recent past though. In a few countries yes.... but not state wide
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Post by featherduster on Dec 14, 2020 18:04:34 GMT -5
OK...OK So what is the going rate for love now a days and do we have any photos? I guess I should add that I am asking for a friend.
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