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Post by Russ Koon on Dec 30, 2013 13:26:48 GMT -5
I do believe we had a local shortage of deer in my hunting area last fall, probably due mostly to an EHD outbreak in the county, or at least in my part of it.
The local numbers this year seem to have improved very noticeably, though still lower than the good old days of the early 90's by about half.
The economic interests that are harmed by a larger deer population are generally far better represented by lobbyists in the statehouse than we are. Our passion for a sustained huntable herd may be great, but what matters more to legislators is campaign money, I'm afraid. Maybe more emphasis on the economic impact of hunting would be advisable. The fact that it's enjoyed by a few hundred thousand of us doesn't seem to carry a lot of political weight. We should benefit from the strength of our numbers more if we could ever get organized into effective groups more interested in common goals than bickering, but that seems beyond our capabilities.
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Post by Russ Koon on Dec 30, 2013 13:01:51 GMT -5
It would be interesting to see the correlation between the car-deer accidents and the areas where hunters are finding the deer numbers to be reduced.
I know there are a number of such accidents that are truly accidental and not due to driver error as the primary cause. I suspect the numbers are somewhat enhanced by drivers who ended up in the ditch or against a telephone pole, needing a good excuse that sounded better than falling asleep, being a bit tipsy, or driving like their Nascar hero. When I was a lad, we didn't have a lot of deer around, and we'd get some buddies with a truck and a log chain or a friend with a tractor, and get the $200 jalopy back on the road and and over on its wheels if needbe, and run over to the nearest junkyard for some parts if we couldn't knock it back into a reasonable resemblence of its former beauty. Few of us carried full insurance on our "lack-of-the-lot" racers, and they were simpler to repair. Now the drivers of the average vehicle driven by the young and reckless is more expensive, more likely to be insured, and apparently much more attractive to deer in an aggressive mood.
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Post by Russ Koon on Dec 18, 2013 12:09:52 GMT -5
That area does look very tempting. I've driven through there just out of curiosity a couple times, but never checked out ownership or sought permission.
I can understand the reluctance to allow hunting with firearms that close to the airport and with a busy interstate all along one border. Looks like it would be a great place for an archery-only area. I know how likely that is, but it seems like it would be a great fit.
Maybe if we could document the number of deer-car collisions in the area, we could ask Farm Bureau to request one.
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Post by Russ Koon on Dec 18, 2013 11:48:25 GMT -5
Very nice, indeed! Great touch on the ceiling treatment.
Happy holiday season to you and yours as well.
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Post by Russ Koon on Dec 14, 2013 23:29:34 GMT -5
I remember sitting along the edge of a cornfield one still evening and waiting for a deer to come by. There was a railroad track about forty yards behind me.
After things had settled down from my arrival, I soon began hearing slight noises from the stalks nearby. Watching them closer, I noticed that nearly every stalk had a ground squirrel visiting it, mostly invisible down inside the shuck as it filled its cheeks. They were very busy, stuffing their cheeks then scurrying quickly to the railroad embankment, which was honeycombed with tunnels, only to return for more as soon as they delivered that load. Those chipmunks picked and shelled more corn in the hour or so I sat there than I could have, I'm sure, as they seemed to be working the first few rows at least all the way along that edge of the field.
There was one lone doe that came by after a while, and she did nibble a couple times on ears that were already half exposed by the rodents.
Lots of damage, and one set of hoof prints that "proved" which varmint was the culprit.
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Post by Russ Koon on Dec 10, 2013 13:07:09 GMT -5
swilk, I'd have to disagree on that rule. As pointed out above, the difficulty is already enough in discerning whether or not there is a legal antler.
The hunter would almost need to tranquilize the deer to inspect it thoroughly enough to be certain of its gender before killing it. I agree that the law as written doesn't strictly adhere to the intent, but basing laws on intent without consideration for practical application is an even worse mistake.
Be different if it was catch and release, but in hunting, we simply can't be perfectly sure of gender without killing first. So the law should first consider the hunter who tries to follow the intent, and make it easier for him to do so under real circumstances, rather than increasing the odds of making him an accidental poacher.
It's not a perfect solution either way, but I think the balance is proper the way it is.
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Post by Russ Koon on Dec 10, 2013 12:47:06 GMT -5
Very familiar with the feeling.
I was watching a doe and her button fawn approach a few years ago on a trail that would lead right past me. It was nearly the last day of the late season and my last reasonable chance for a kill in what had been a season with very few opportunities due to local conditions. I raised the CVA and took a steady rest against the trunk of tree, and as they came closer, even pushed the safety forward with my thumb.
But as I watched the inquisitive fawn trotting around investigating stuff and the doe watching him and waiting for him to catch up, I decided I just didn't want to kill either in front of the other that day. I slid the safety back on, and when the doe finally got suspicious at about fifteen yards and bolted a few yards off the trail, and stomped lightly to bring the youngster to her side, I intentionally verified her suspicions by lowering the gun and taking a step, sending both deer to cover before I walked out to the truck and ended the season without putting anything in the freezer.
No regrets. And there would have been none if either deer had come by alone and I had killed it. Sometimes it's about bringing one home, and sometimes it's about enjoying the interaction and the satisfaction of knowing you could have taken one is plenty. On that day, under those particular circumstances, I just felt better about watching them get away.
Loving to hunt, and also loving the animals we hunt, can seem contradictory to non-hunters, and maybe even to hunters at first, but it tends to become more natural after a while. I think most of us who have hunted a long time are familiar with the situation described.
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Post by Russ Koon on Dec 5, 2013 11:29:49 GMT -5
My Grandma picked mine out for my dad to use back in '21. He used it for 89 years and I've used it for going on 69, and my son has used it for 46. So far none of us has done anything that made the others want to change theirs, so I guess we'll just keep going with it 8^)
Imagination doesn't seem to run in the family.
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Post by Russ Koon on Dec 4, 2013 18:02:10 GMT -5
Have to side with those who don't see a place for lions or wolves in our modern countryside, at least in areas populated as densely as IN.
I think it's completely unrealistic to expect the peaceful coexistence of such predators with humans. There have been people killed, and will be more people killed, to exercise some dreamers' longing for a time long gone where we might have shared a more scarcely populated landscape.
Bears are borderline, IMO, and they are omnivores with a taste for lots of vegetation and insects, who usually den up and hibernate during the winters. Other apex predators with the need for meat in their diets in greater proportion, will find those unaware and slow kids at the bus stops to be easy and delicious when they run low on deer and neighborhood pets during the hunger moon.
Does it actually have to happen for some people to see the probability increasing until it does?
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Post by Russ Koon on Dec 2, 2013 13:39:58 GMT -5
Nancy's Broken Arrow, just south of Cloverdale, will have a shoot January 25th and 26th, 2014. They call it their Polar Bear Freezeout shoot.
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Post by Russ Koon on Nov 21, 2013 10:24:59 GMT -5
Read very many positive posts about Vapor Trail strings on a couple of other archery boards. I ordered a set of cables and strings for an LX and the service was very fast, price was reasonable, and the order arrived exactly as specified.
Unfortunately, the bow I put them on was stolen a few days later, so I can't report on the durability or stability from firsthand experience. They did look great, and the few shots I managed to take with that bow while sighting in and fine tuning after installing the new strings gave me a good impression of their quality.
Only small glitch I had in dealing with the company was that I couldn't get their website ordering to work right. I gave up pretty quickly on it and just gave them a call. Ordering over the phone was easy and involved no robots or taped messages, just a friendly and competent human on the other end of the line.
I plan to give them another call after the season ends.
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Post by Russ Koon on Nov 19, 2013 12:55:40 GMT -5
Jon, I look forward to getting together for that cup of coffee. We'll set something up when you're up and about again after getting that pacemaker.
Best of luck tomorrow.
Do you suppose we should show up at Starbucks packing heat to make it more interesting? 8^)
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Post by Russ Koon on Nov 18, 2013 11:25:57 GMT -5
WRT to the Soviet nukes, I happened to see a news bit just the other day about the electricity that has been generated by our reactors during the last few decades using the fuel rods that were originally part of the Soviet nuke warhead program. The piece said we're just about out of them now, and to expect a rise in electric rates as we run out of them.
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Post by Russ Koon on Nov 18, 2013 11:19:25 GMT -5
I think the other world war were pretty ugly as well. I still remember the sound of my uncle's father coughing and wheezing as he died slowly from the damage that had been done to his lungs by the mustard gas of WWI. Took him about thirty years to die, but he came home from France pretty much unable to do anything but wait for it.
When you think about it, the actual fighting of wars was always gruesome. Don't think about the movies and the Hollywood battle scenes, but imagine yourself with sword and shield, facing other guys so equipped, and hacking away at each other until you drop. Or stopping an arrow or a spear when the medical practices of the day were not likely to result in anything other than a lightly slower death.
Technology has changed the nature of war and the probability of survival after injury. It has also altered the direct effect on the civilian population, probably mostly for the better, although nuke wars and even major bombing campaigns on population centers negate much of the "civilizing" effects that had occurred over the centuries since the Crusades.
IMO, there are better ways to settle our differences.....but they aren't as profitable.
I think Ike was a better leader to pay attention to than any we've had since. He had the resolve to use our force, and had proven it. Imagine the emotional torture of ordering thousands of young men to hit the beaches on D-Day, knowing the casualties were likely to be tremendous. But later as president he tended to rattle our missiles at the enemy rather than show our resolve by sending thousands of our best young people to die in deserts and jungles on the other side of the world in "limited engagements" and then then just quitting when it became politically untenable to continue.
Maybe it was because he had seen and felt war more closely and personally as a military leader than our political leaders since.
Ike had the inside knowledge and experience to know what he was talking about when he warned us in his farewell address of the danger posed by the military-industrial complex. I think the country should have paid more attention.
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Post by Russ Koon on Nov 7, 2013 13:30:44 GMT -5
In the current polarized atmosphere wherein we are all pigeonholed into stereotypes and considered by each side to be in the other's camp unless we toe the line all the way, those who think for themselves and come to their own conclusions are generally left out.
People seem comfortable with a world where everyone else "fits" into their preconceived notions. I suppose it's easier to cope with mentally than one in which there are multiple answers and many facets to issues, and where compromise is often where the best solutions will still be found.
I'm another oddball social liberal and fiscal conservative. A Constitutionalist and history junkie who realizes that we are not perfect as a nation, and never were, but may still be the closest man has ever come.
I became a conservative back in high school when I first became aware of Barry Goldwater. He favored smaller government, a modernized and ready military that would be held in readiness but hopefully not constantly busy at their trade....like firemen and EMT's and disaster responders, people you want to be ready, but idle as much of the time as possible except for training exercises.
Barry also was quoted as saying that a soldier didn't need to BE straight, just to SHOOT straight, when asked about accepting gays into the military. Did that make him a liberal? He was recognized at the time as the leading spokesman for conservative politics in the country, if not the world.
Used to also enjoy another leading conservative political spokesman, William F. Buckley, as he would politely maneuver any liberal guests overconfident enough to accept his challenge to debate on the air and guide them out onto a limb, then saw the limb off with a bit of logic and truth, still smiling and still not shouting. He was a strong proponent of legalizing marijuana as well as many other regulated drugs. Did that make him a liberal, or just a conservative who could see that the drug war that was fifty or so years old at that time, had been lost for at least thirty years, and was no more than a repetition of the failure that Prohibition had been?
The only political party that currently proposes smaller government and debt, and less foreign entanglements involving our military, and increased personal liberty, is the Libertarian Party. I don't even agree with every position they take, but I'm much more comfortable being put into that pigeonhole than any other.
The old adage is that power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. We have now granted the government as a whole something that very closely approximates absolute power over our lives. We happily swapped our liberties for promises, and still do, thinking we are playing one side against the other in their battle for our support. A few have come to the realization that what we thought of for so long as two sides, are now one....the statist side, and they are no longer all that concerned about our support.
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Post by Russ Koon on Nov 6, 2013 12:04:38 GMT -5
Jon, I always found it to be the exact opposite....cleaning was MUCH easier when done immediately, and it seemed to me the taste was also milder. I liked them either way, but getting the hide off allowing the meat to cool more quickly seemed to improve the flavor.
I began cleaning them immediately more as a matter of convenience and time management, back when I worked nights and could hunt mostly in the mornings. I had always previously brought them home whole, and the task of cleaning them after they had been dead a couple hours and the day was getting warm, coupled with me being tired after a short sleep and rising early to be in the woods, made it a bigger and more unpleasant chore.
I began carrying a couple of breadsacks in a pocket. They fold to almost matchbook size and weight, and each will carry a couple of cleaned squirrels easily, and will hang reliably from the belt if wrapped twice around it. The meat cools more quickly even on a warm morning that way than it does when insulated by a furry skin in a package containing warm innards.
I was surprised at how much easier the skinning went when it slid freely over the underlying meat rather than sticking to it.
I was also pleasantly surprised at how many times I had to hurry and finish the job because another had begun cutting before the last one was in the sack. I had been walking off into "undisturbed" woods with an uncleaned squirrel hanging from my belt for years, when I would have been better served by spending a couple minutes where I picked up the last one, quietly going about the business of cleaning it and putting it in the bag.
And the best part, after getting home, they were ready for a quick rinse and a nice soak in some salted water in the fridge, while I was ready for a shower and a nap.
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Post by Russ Koon on Nov 6, 2013 10:55:24 GMT -5
Interesting comparison.
We find the hunting on public land to be generally poor by comparison to private land here. Wonder if it's any worse in the states where private land can be hunted over bait, but not public.
Georgia would also appear to offer an interesting comparison between areas where baiting is allowed and disallowed, with the state divided between the two.
Strong feelings on both sides of the issue, based on both science and traditions.
I've openly suggested on here and on state questionnaires that I have come to favor baiting being allowed here. It would offer several advantages on the smaller parcels that we now find ourselves hunting, which are increasingly surrounded by non-huntable land. But the main factor IMO is the fact that the current inability to effectively enforce the baiting restrictions leaves us with the poachers being guaranteed an advantage unobtainable by those who follow the rules. Self-restriction is a fine thing and many of us include varying degrees of it in our harvest goals or equipment restrictions, but those are personal limitations voluntarily imposed. Restrictions imposed by the state on everybody should be enforceable, or they become just another advantage to the outlaw who disregards them. Poachers have quite enough advantage already without help from the referees.
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Post by Russ Koon on Nov 3, 2013 9:16:04 GMT -5
Like a better look at that saw blade!
I've spent more time sawing one leg bone off by hand that he spent on the whole deer.
Only thing I saw in his process that I didn't like was sticking the skinning knife repeatedly in the meat of the ham.
Watched an uncle shear sheep one time when I was a kid. Similar mastery of the job and making every motion count. What he did in a minute would have taken me at least a half hour even after watching him do it a few times...and the sheep would probably have come looking for me afterwards!
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Post by Russ Koon on Nov 2, 2013 9:42:56 GMT -5
Resharpened a bunch of slightly used blades for some older Thunderheads this year. I always liked the old TH's and found a package still in the original packaging on an old tackle box while cleaning the garage. A few other ferrules and pieces brought my total to seven good ones, so I sharpened up several of the used blades I had accumulated in my tackle, and am carrying these this year.
I have a cheaper Smith sharpening system that works like the Lansky, and it works very well. I get them to point where they are starting to shave the hair from my arm, then strop them , still in the Smith blade clamp for easier handling, on some cardboard rubbed with a chunk of polishing compound. That last step takes them from just barely shaving to shaving cleanly and comfortably on one pass, which is slightly better than the new ones did out of the package.
I also give the hardened steel tip of the ferrule a few strokes by hand with a stone, just to freshen the needle point. Probably doesn't make much difference, but it only takes a couple more seconds and makes me feel better about doing everything I can to get a humane kill and a good blood trail.
Getting very nice groups out to 40 yards with the TH's and had excellent bone penetration with them back when I used them all the time, many years ago.
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Post by Russ Koon on Oct 22, 2013 10:46:03 GMT -5
Saw your post above explaining how to stay tethered using sticks just after submitting the one immediately above this.
That should handle the problem of staying tethered much better then any of the schemes I was coming up with.
Thanks, Woody.
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