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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Jul 17, 2013 20:26:58 GMT -5
www.prophecynewswatch.com/2013/July16/163.htmlA Pentagon report states that China, Iran and North Korea are aggressively developing nuclear missiles capable of striking the United States and proliferation among these nations of technology is rife, the British newspaper Daily Mail reported Friday. The Department of Defense report, the findings of which were first published by the Washington Times, confirms the assessment of US intelligence agencies that Iran is set to test an intercontinental ballistic missile as early as 2015. "Iran has ambitious ballistic missile and space launch development programs and continues to attempt to increase the range, lethality, and accuracy of its ballistic missile force," states the assessment produced by the Department of Defense's National Air and Space Intelligence Center. The report also determines that the number of Chinese land-based nuclear missiles able to hit the US "could expand to well over 100 within the next 15 years" and that North Korea has already deployed its new road-mobile intercontinental ballistic missile, or ICBM, known as the Hwasong-13. "North Korea has an ambitious ballistic missile development program and has exported missiles and missile technology to other countries, including Iran and Pakistan," says the assessment, which was released this week. Rep. Michael Turner, an Ohio Republican and a member of the House Committee for Armed Services, said in response to the report "For too long the Obama administration has allowed our missile defense program to languish when they should have been working to prepare for these imminent threats." In March, China announced it was to increase military spending by 11.2% this year in response to US President Barack Obama's Asian 'pivot.' China announced a 10.7% increase in military spending to $114 billion in March, the Pentagon report said. Publicly announced defense spending for 2012 was $106 billion, but actual pending for 2012 could range between $135 billion and $215 billion, it said. According to the Daily Mail, US defense spending is more than double that, at more than $500 billion. Asian neighbors, however, have been nervous about Beijing's expanding military, and this double-digit rise could reinforce disquiet in Japan, India, Southeast Asia and self-ruled Taiwan, which China considers part of its territory. Obama has sought to reassure Asian allies that the United States will stay a key player in the area, and the Pentagon has said it will "rebalance toward the Asia-Pacific region." Read more at www.prophecynewswatch.com/2013/July16/163.html#bvXpT7SUJ90UitVI.99
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Post by tenring on Jul 19, 2013 21:59:51 GMT -5
What was the designation of the unmanned vehicle that was launched into orbit, and lasted almost twice it's expected time in space and then was brought back to earth and landed successfully all by remote control?
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Jul 20, 2013 9:05:06 GMT -5
What was the designation of the unmanned vehicle that was launched into orbit, and lasted almost twice it's expected time in space and then was brought back to earth and landed successfully all by remote control? Hi tenring, I like the way you think. Which country are you inquiring about? North Korea launched one last year or early this year, but not sure that it made it back. I wouldn't expect them to be able to do it, but it's not necessary for them to do what they'd like to do. China and Russia can probably do anything. I remember this event, but vaguely; was it us? I'll have to look it up. For periods of time, I get busy and don't see any news. Hey, I want to thank you for your service and sacrifice to protect this great country! Marines are the best! I appreciate you. My stepdad was a proud Marine. I begged him several times to tell me about his experience, but he did not want to talk about it. He eventually told me 2 stories, but they were about Paris Island, and nothing overseas. I never saw that man afraid of anything, but I bet his butt puckered a little when that bird started to pick him up. LOL. I wasn't close to him until the last 5 years of his life, and then I loved him very much. I still miss him; he was good to me.
I have a friend, Max Cleland, he was the US Senator for Georgia and a proud Marine. We are as opposite as can be on politics, except for what he did for the vets. He and my stepdad were in the same battle, the New Year's Eve battle. Max lost his legs and right arm in a non-combat accident. If it wasn't for this, I'm not sure that we'd have the benefits that we have for vets. His experience made him fight for the benefits. Thanks again! |
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Post by tenring on Jul 20, 2013 14:19:38 GMT -5
It was one of ours, and not the one which recently made the carrier take off and landing. This was launched by a rocket and put into orbit just like a satellite. Not a lot of press about it, as the 'guvmint didn't want to disclose what it's intended purpose was really about.
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Post by jamesaritchie on Jul 21, 2013 10:54:49 GMT -5
If there's ever another world war, it won't matter how ugly it is because one one will be left to see it.
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Jul 21, 2013 11:03:09 GMT -5
If there's ever another world war, it won't matter how ugly it is because one one will be left to see it. They have only escalated throughout history and this would be exponentially worse. Surely someone will show some restraint. |
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Post by kevin1 on Jul 29, 2013 10:48:27 GMT -5
Iran and N. Korea couldn't throw a baseball across home plate, much less launch an ICBM capable of doing more than embarass them. As for China, they're currently swimming in an ocean of our money, that's one boat they won't rock.
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Jul 29, 2013 18:27:04 GMT -5
Iran and N. Korea couldn't throw a baseball across home plate, much less launch an ICBM capable of doing more than embarass them. As for China, they're currently swimming in an ocean of our money, that's one boat they won't rock. Under estimating the enemy can be a mistake, even in street fights as well as sports and opponents. |
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Jul 29, 2013 19:28:25 GMT -5
Iran and N. Korea couldn't throw a baseball across home plate, much less launch an ICBM capable of doing more than embarass them. As for China, they're currently swimming in an ocean of our money, that's one boat they won't rock. I guess the Pentagon and DoD reports could be wrong. They've been wrong before. Regardless, the next one will be ugly. |
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Post by tenring on Jul 30, 2013 6:12:37 GMT -5
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Post by kevin1 on Jul 31, 2013 7:21:43 GMT -5
Iran and N. Korea couldn't throw a baseball across home plate, much less launch an ICBM capable of doing more than embarrass them. As for China, they're currently swimming in an ocean of our money, that's one boat they won't rock. I guess the Pentagon and DoD reports could be wrong. They've been wrong before. Regardless, the next one will be ugly. The same Pentagon and DOD reported that there were WMDs in Iraq, resulting in the longest and most costly war we've ever prosecuted, yet not more than a handful of low yield chem weapons was ever found. Don't believe all you hear. Yes, any protracted conflict in the Middle East or with N.Korea would be bad, but I've seen no realistic evidence that Iran or NK can pose a serious threat to the continental US other than terrorist attacks from within. NK's Tae Po Dong missile has so far barely been able to pass over Japan, most splashed into the sea before even getting that far. Their Hwasong-13 is likely of equally bad quality. As for Iran's, well, whatever unpronounceable name they call it missile, I've seen no credible reports of it going much over their own borders. If they fired that turd at any country it would be Israel, and so far they can't even get one to go that far, a mere few hundred miles. A country's "claimed capability" is usually considerably less than what they can actually do. The Chinese certainly have ICBMs capable of reaching the US, have had them for quite some time, but what would it gain them? A smoking wasteland where their most profitable market used to be, radioactive for thousands of years. The Chinese are a very practical people, exterminating us serves no useful purpose for them since they only way to win would be to literally kill the golden goose. If they off us their economy, along with the global economy, would crash into a depression so deep it would take decades to recover from, if they ever did. |
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Post by greyhair on Aug 12, 2013 18:30:39 GMT -5
I watched Fail-Safe last night for the millionth time. A good old classic. Just a movie, but it illustrates some good points like-
Wars can easily start by accident.
Battles,and therefore wars always take unexpected turns
The military leaders usually overestimate their own capabilities and,
Often underestimate the other side.
You never know who might jump in, or where
For sure, the next one will be really ugly
Let us all pray that we don't see it, but prevail if we do
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Post by sgtwal on Sept 8, 2013 19:18:46 GMT -5
Let's say a nuke pops in Kansas City. Aljazera says they know who did it, that there are 3 more in the US, and they demand the US stand down its military and submit to UN control.
All the nukes we may have are usless against an enemy we can't find.
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Sept 9, 2013 6:53:03 GMT -5
EMP, I call this the slow death. Still some in our military and me are concerned about an EMP. A blue ribbon panel appointed by Congress came to the conclusion that such an attack would see 90% casualty rate in the US within 18 months after the event.
Personally, 90% sounds a little extreme. Sure, people on life support would die quickly, but none should die immediately as a direct impact of the EMP. Diabetics wouldn't survive long and those who require regular medication to live would die relatively soon. Many would starve, but mostly we'll probably kill each other fighting for food and water.
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Post by nodog on Nov 2, 2013 21:59:05 GMT -5
Iran and N. Korea couldn't throw a baseball across home plate, much less launch an ICBM capable of doing more than embarass them. As for China, they're currently swimming in an ocean of our money, that's one boat they won't rock. very simplistic view, what will most likely happen is a bigger player will take NK toys away from them for their own use and China will just end the game and kick out the squatters from the lands they've bought and paid for. Ugly is an earth burning in a fervent heat, but that would mean the bible got it right and you wouldn't care to admit that could be a possibility. |
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Nov 5, 2013 16:54:50 GMT -5
Iran and N. Korea couldn't throw a baseball across home plate, much less launch an ICBM capable of doing more than embarass them. As for China, they're currently swimming in an ocean of our money, that's one boat they won't rock. very simplistic view, what will most likely happen is a bigger player will take NK toys away from them for their own use and China will just end the game and kick out the squatters from the lands they've bought and paid for. Ugly is an earth burning in a fervent heat, but that would mean the bible got it right and you wouldn't care to admit that could be a possibility. Tell me about your name. Is it because you hunt without a dog, or have no dog in the race of a certain topic? It's interesting none the less. |
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Post by sgtwal on Nov 17, 2013 14:00:53 GMT -5
In Vietnam the world saw that conventional fights against the US were very costly. In 1991 in the First Gulf war they saw that things have not changed. BUT ever since they have had the position re-enforced that we can be hit by unconventional forces and we are all but powerless. They chased us out of Lebanon, Somalia, Afghanistan, and Iraq with IEDs and kamikazi bombers. We do not do well when they won't wear uniforms or fight in a conventional manner.
We have shown the world we can fight, but that our people can be chased away by a few dead GIs. We have shown that we prefer to stay home and launch robots to fight. Robots that can't tell a friend from an enemy.
I repeat my statement. They do not need missles or armies. Just a few nukes and a truck that will cross the Mexico border and get inland.
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Nov 18, 2013 11:05:12 GMT -5
In Vietnam the world saw that conventional fights against the US were very costly. In 1991 in the First Gulf war they saw that things have not changed. BUT ever since they have had the position re-enforced that we can be hit by unconventional forces and we are all but powerless. They chased us out of Lebanon, Somalia, Afghanistan, and Iraq with IEDs and kamikazi bombers. We do not do well when they won't wear uniforms or fight in a conventional manner. We have shown the world we can fight, but that our people can be chased away by a few dead GIs. We have shown that we prefer to stay home and launch robots to fight. Robots that can't tell a friend from an enemy. I repeat my statement. They do not need missles or armies. Just a few nukes and a truck that will cross the Mexico border and get inland. Hello sgtwal, I agree. The American public does not have resolve when it comes to war on other land. I wonder if it would be different if the war came to us. Like you, I feel the enemy will never invade the US in a traditional maneuver, but won't have to. However, they may invade us after an EMP knocks everything out. More than likely the weapons we all have will be used against each other. I've never thought about the scenario you describe, but now I'm surprised that it hasn't happened yet. Remember when the nut with the kid were shooting people out of the trunk of that car on the east coast, and it took a long time to find them. They caused enormous fear in the public. After that, I wondered why terrorist didn't spread people out across the nation and do this at the same time. They could shut us down for a while and instill a lot of fear. When the Soviet Union fell, I immediately started wondering what would happen to the nukes. That was a long time ago. I'm very surprised that we haven't seen these surface. On the other hand, the patients of Al Qaeda in planning the 9/11 attack was impressive. I would be very surprised if one of these militant terrorist groups do not possess a suitcase nuke. |
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Post by Russ Koon on Nov 18, 2013 11:19:25 GMT -5
I think the other world war were pretty ugly as well. I still remember the sound of my uncle's father coughing and wheezing as he died slowly from the damage that had been done to his lungs by the mustard gas of WWI. Took him about thirty years to die, but he came home from France pretty much unable to do anything but wait for it.
When you think about it, the actual fighting of wars was always gruesome. Don't think about the movies and the Hollywood battle scenes, but imagine yourself with sword and shield, facing other guys so equipped, and hacking away at each other until you drop. Or stopping an arrow or a spear when the medical practices of the day were not likely to result in anything other than a lightly slower death.
Technology has changed the nature of war and the probability of survival after injury. It has also altered the direct effect on the civilian population, probably mostly for the better, although nuke wars and even major bombing campaigns on population centers negate much of the "civilizing" effects that had occurred over the centuries since the Crusades.
IMO, there are better ways to settle our differences.....but they aren't as profitable.
I think Ike was a better leader to pay attention to than any we've had since. He had the resolve to use our force, and had proven it. Imagine the emotional torture of ordering thousands of young men to hit the beaches on D-Day, knowing the casualties were likely to be tremendous. But later as president he tended to rattle our missiles at the enemy rather than show our resolve by sending thousands of our best young people to die in deserts and jungles on the other side of the world in "limited engagements" and then then just quitting when it became politically untenable to continue.
Maybe it was because he had seen and felt war more closely and personally as a military leader than our political leaders since.
Ike had the inside knowledge and experience to know what he was talking about when he warned us in his farewell address of the danger posed by the military-industrial complex. I think the country should have paid more attention.
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Post by Russ Koon on Nov 18, 2013 11:25:57 GMT -5
WRT to the Soviet nukes, I happened to see a news bit just the other day about the electricity that has been generated by our reactors during the last few decades using the fuel rods that were originally part of the Soviet nuke warhead program. The piece said we're just about out of them now, and to expect a rise in electric rates as we run out of them.
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