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Post by Woody Williams on Nov 6, 2013 10:12:49 GMT -5
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Post by Russ Koon on Nov 6, 2013 10:55:24 GMT -5
Interesting comparison.
We find the hunting on public land to be generally poor by comparison to private land here. Wonder if it's any worse in the states where private land can be hunted over bait, but not public.
Georgia would also appear to offer an interesting comparison between areas where baiting is allowed and disallowed, with the state divided between the two.
Strong feelings on both sides of the issue, based on both science and traditions.
I've openly suggested on here and on state questionnaires that I have come to favor baiting being allowed here. It would offer several advantages on the smaller parcels that we now find ourselves hunting, which are increasingly surrounded by non-huntable land. But the main factor IMO is the fact that the current inability to effectively enforce the baiting restrictions leaves us with the poachers being guaranteed an advantage unobtainable by those who follow the rules. Self-restriction is a fine thing and many of us include varying degrees of it in our harvest goals or equipment restrictions, but those are personal limitations voluntarily imposed. Restrictions imposed by the state on everybody should be enforceable, or they become just another advantage to the outlaw who disregards them. Poachers have quite enough advantage already without help from the referees.
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Post by hunter7x on Nov 6, 2013 11:01:04 GMT -5
New Mexico...Hunting over anything that entices deer into an area is considered baiting and is illegal.
Im guessing that would include our food plots?
Interesting for sure.
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Post by Woody Williams on Nov 6, 2013 11:11:21 GMT -5
I've always said "A bait bucket is a poor man's food plot"..
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Post by goosepondmonster on Nov 6, 2013 11:12:26 GMT -5
New Mexico...Hunting over anything that entices deer into an area is considered baiting and is illegal. Im guessing that would include our food plots? Interesting for sure. Couldn't it be argued that that would also include doe in estrous scents?
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Post by dbd870 on Nov 6, 2013 11:28:14 GMT -5
I'm in favor of doing away with baiting laws just so you don't have the neighbor setting out bait to entrap someone hunting the next property kind of issues. Hunting both bait and no bait states I just don't see it as a big deal
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Post by 36fan on Nov 6, 2013 12:17:30 GMT -5
New Mexico...Hunting over anything that entices deer into an area is considered baiting and is illegal. Im guessing that would include our food plots? Interesting for sure. Couldn't it be argued that that would also include doe in estrous scents? or hunting by water?
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Post by featherduster on Nov 6, 2013 12:40:56 GMT -5
Ted Nugent had it right when the state of Michigan was arguing the deer baiting issue when he said..........
So whats wrong with me spending hundreds of dollars fattening up deer to help them make it through the winter months while I wait to kill that one deer that the law allows me to take.
I am not a fan of Ted Nugent but this made sense.
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Post by swilk on Nov 6, 2013 12:56:54 GMT -5
I got no problem with baiting on private property .... think it would cause a whole lotta messes if allowed on public property.
It is not the silver bullet some might think it is. And it is not the rusty nail (CWD and the like) that others might think it is.
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Post by lawrencecountyhunter on Nov 6, 2013 12:59:54 GMT -5
I'd be happy with just allowing the mineral sites to be hunted. That would take a whole lot of headache out of things.
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Post by salt on Nov 6, 2013 20:22:42 GMT -5
I hunt in Ohio where baiting is legal. I have shot quite a few deer over there. But, have never shot one going to my bait pile or visiting my mineral lick. I use Lucky Buck in Ohio year round. I have a nice sized food plot here in Indiana. I see a lot more deer eating from my food plot in Indiana than ever eating from my corn pile in Ohio. I am in favor of a rule change on private property.
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Post by drs on Nov 7, 2013 5:11:12 GMT -5
It is legal to bait Deer here in Kentucky, but I think it should be illegal though. I've had never had to "bait" Deer in order to harvest one. When you have to bait them, I don't consider it "fair chase", just a simple way to bag a Deer, without any real hunting skills.
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Post by dbd870 on Nov 7, 2013 5:21:51 GMT -5
I hunt in Ohio where baiting is legal. I have shot quite a few deer over there. But, have never shot one going to my bait pile or visiting my mineral lick. I use Lucky Buck in Ohio year round. I have a nice sized food plot here in Indiana. I see a lot more deer eating from my food plot in Indiana than ever eating from my corn pile in Ohio. I am in favor of a rule change on private property. Doesn't surprise me at all; mirrors my experience.
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Post by firstwd on Nov 7, 2013 8:35:43 GMT -5
Depending on who interprets the law, food plot could be considered bait here.
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Post by goosepondmonster on Nov 7, 2013 9:46:23 GMT -5
Depending on who interprets the law, food plot could be considered bait here. I have never heard any CO say a food plot is considered bait.
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