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Post by span870 on Oct 11, 2021 6:00:03 GMT -5
Or just get some beagles and give up all that silliness Or some Springer Spaniels. LOL NOT the show side of the family tree, the field side. You have no idea how many times I've argued with people when they rant about breeding dogs and they proclaim, get a dog from a reputable show breeder. They don't know how to respond when I explain how show breeders are single handedly responsible for destroying more breeds with their "standards of breeding". Basset, beagle, English bulldog, springer, cocker, standard poodle, and well on their way with labs
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Post by esshup on Oct 11, 2021 7:19:23 GMT -5
I agree. Looks is all that matters to them. Temperament, bidability, nose, desire to do the job they were bred to do all go out the window with show dogs.
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Post by INhuntin on Oct 11, 2021 16:42:21 GMT -5
The only thing I don't get is it has to be attached to the tree above the stand. So in some way you will have to climb the tree at least one time without being attached to the tree. Unless they have invented a way to get it clamped on without going up the tree. No I'm not buying one of those tree clamp things you put on your stand that makes it too heavy to carry into the woods.
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Post by HuntMeister on Oct 11, 2021 17:17:23 GMT -5
The only thing I don't get is it has to be attached to the tree above the stand. So in some way you will have to climb the tree at least one time without being attached to the tree. Unless they have invented a way to get it clamped on without going up the tree. No I'm not buying one of those tree clamp things you put on your stand that makes it too heavy to carry into the woods. It depends... If you are doing a climbing stick, you could theoretically attach a lifeline and move it up as you go up securing the stick to the tree. Not an easy approach but doable. I use my linemans belt to setup / secure the climbing stick to the tree and at the same time will have the lifeline attached to me so that when I get to the top, I can attach the lifeline and then attach to it to hang the stand. This is not as safe an approach as the lifeline but leaps and bounds better than nothing at all. In the event of a fall, you will likely get banged up pretty good but not likely to fall to terra firma either, the linemans belt should arrest your fall. Installing a ladder stand can present a problem depending on the tree. If it is a tree that you can climb with a climber you can go up first and secure the lifeline. If you cannot use a climber, then yes you may not be able to do a lifeline prior to installing the ladder stand. In a climber you just move the lifeline up the tree as you climb.
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Post by INhuntin on Oct 11, 2021 17:38:48 GMT -5
The only thing I don't get is it has to be attached to the tree above the stand. So in some way you will have to climb the tree at least one time without being attached to the tree. Unless they have invented a way to get it clamped on without going up the tree. No I'm not buying one of those tree clamp things you put on your stand that makes it too heavy to carry into the woods. It depends... If you are doing a climbing stick, you could theoretically attach a lifeline and move it up as you go up securing the stick to the tree. Not an easy approach but doable. I use my linemans belt to setup / secure the climbing stick to the tree and at the same time will have the lifeline attached to me so that when I get to the top, I can attach the lifeline and then attach to it to hang the stand. This is not as safe an approach as the lifeline but leaps and bounds better than nothing at all. In the event of a fall, you will likely get banged up pretty good but not likely to fall to terra firma either, the linemans belt should arrest your fall. Installing a ladder stand can present a problem depending on the tree. If it is a tree that you can climb with a climber you can go up first and secure the lifeline. If you cannot use a climber, then yes you may not be able to do a lifeline prior to installing the ladder stand. In a climber you just move the lifeline up the tree as you climb. I use mostly ladder stands, I had to give up on my climber stands because of a hip replacement. It could dislocate my hip trying to pull up my climbing stand. I do hook my harness to the stand as I climb up the first time, while the ropes from the stand are around the tree. then as I tie the top of the stand to the tree I put on my strap & climbing rope. Then I'm safe to go up or down.
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Post by genesis273 on Oct 11, 2021 18:01:18 GMT -5
Yes, you will most likely have to climb up without a lifeline at first. But, you can utilize a lineman's belt too. I think the odds are better if you just have to go up once without one rather than never using onr. You'll already be able to use it coming back down.
I know I'll have to make at least 9 trips up 9 different set-ups but, I'm putting one on race stand.
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Post by greghopper on Oct 11, 2021 18:33:11 GMT -5
Yes, you will most likely have to climb up without a lifeline at first. But, you can utilize a lineman's belt too. I think the odds are better if you just have to go up once without one rather than never using onr. You'll already be able to use it coming back down. I know I'll have to make at least 9 trips up 9 different set-ups but, I'm putting one on race stand. You never have to climb any tree without a safety device…. Do more research!
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Post by genesis273 on Oct 11, 2021 19:21:36 GMT -5
You are correct. There's always something to help out and keep people safe. I will most likely buy something for that as well. Just need to see what's out there.
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Post by whitetaildave24 on Oct 11, 2021 20:31:34 GMT -5
Yes, you will most likely have to climb up without a lifeline at first. But, you can utilize a lineman's belt too. I think the odds are better if you just have to go up once without one rather than never using onr. You'll already be able to use it coming back down. I know I'll have to make at least 9 trips up 9 different set-ups but, I'm putting one on race stand. You never have to climb any tree without a safety device…. Do more research! Just out of curiosity. Putting up a ladder stand and you don’t own a climber or have a ladder. How do you put it up and stay connected to a safety line all the time? Lineman’s belts don’t work with ladders.
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Post by HuntMeister on Oct 12, 2021 7:02:05 GMT -5
You never have to climb any tree without a safety device…. Do more research! Just out of curiosity. Putting up a ladder stand and you don’t own a climber or have a ladder. How do you put it up and stay connected to a safety line all the time? Lineman’s belts don’t work with ladders. One method that comes to mind is the single rope technique (SRT) that saddle hunters use but will require a large enough limb or maybe fork in the right location to make it work. www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgXkmDGFSmU&ab_channel=OverwatchOutdoors
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Post by greghopper on Oct 12, 2021 7:47:51 GMT -5
You never have to climb any tree without a safety device…. Do more research! Just out of curiosity. Putting up a ladder stand and you don’t own a climber or have a ladder. How do you put it up and stay connected to a safety line all the time? Lineman’s belts don’t work with ladders. Simple…. Get the equipment you don’t have and do the process correctly and Safely. It basically a choice one has to make … Do it safely or not.
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Post by genesis273 on Oct 19, 2021 15:39:23 GMT -5
1 dozen Hunter Safety Systems reflective lifelines and a new harness. In your FACE gravity!!! Lol! 🤣🤣🤣 I will have all my stands covered plus a few extra. $537.19 for preventative safety measures. Vs.... $2,882.67 out of pocket expenses already for medical supplies and the down payment before surgery. Many more medical bills to come! And that's just the financial side of things. Hunt safe folks!
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Post by greghopper on Oct 20, 2021 6:31:50 GMT -5
Nice setup for sure...
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