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Post by michaelc on Nov 27, 2022 20:07:37 GMT -5
I wish I caught mine on sale, my Traditions set me back a little over $400 and I spent almost $350 for my Vortex scope. Optics is everything to me besides it has a lifetime warranty and anything can happen out in the woods
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Post by michaelc on Nov 27, 2022 20:10:54 GMT -5
IMO... you need to find somebody that can show you the way! It's not hard, but a lot to learn in a short time. Experience would be your best and fastest friend to get you set up and going this late in the game. Everybody's contributions to the thread are great, but getting a thousand opinions can easily confuse you. You need one gun, one powder, one primer, and maybe several bullet/sabot combos that someone has available to try in your gun. Good luck, and hope someone can help you out in such short order. It's a fun game, and great time to hunt in the late season. Yes it's not something to just jump into I promise. I've been in the black powder game since 2000 and I've yet to master it but I feel I'm darn close to it. Pistols are the hardest IMO to get figured out, way to many variables to play around with and a lot of 2nd guessing when it comes to the powder charges
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Post by michaelc on Nov 27, 2022 20:12:32 GMT -5
Your like Smokey and The Bandit at this point. A long way to go and a short time to get there
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Post by genesis273 on Nov 27, 2022 20:22:40 GMT -5
I have a Traditions Vortex Strikerfire in .50 cal. -Harvester Scorpion PT Gold 50 cal. at 260gr. -110 grains of Hodgdon Triple 7 FFFg loose powder. -Winchester Triple 7 209 primers. Zeroed at 100 yards last year. That was the first time I had ever had a 3 shot group touching out of a muzzleloader. I need to get it out this week and put a couple rounds through it before next weekend. You may have to play around with a few different powder loads and projectiles to see which one your gun likes best.
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Post by genesis273 on Nov 27, 2022 20:23:13 GMT -5
IMO... you need to find somebody that can show you the way! It's not hard, but a lot to learn in a short time. Experience would be your best and fastest friend to get you set up and going this late in the game. Everybody's contributions to the thread are great, but getting a thousand opinions can easily confuse you. You need one gun, one powder, one primer, and maybe several bullet/sabot combos that someone has available to try in your gun. Good luck, and hope someone can help you out in such short order. It's a fun game, and great time to hunt in the late season. Sound advice.
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Post by greghopper on Nov 27, 2022 21:16:24 GMT -5
IMO... you need to find somebody that can show you the way! It's not hard, but a lot to learn in a short time. Experience would be your best and fastest friend to get you set up and going this late in the game. Everybody's contributions to the thread are great, but getting a thousand opinions can easily confuse you. You need one gun, one powder, one primer, and maybe several bullet/sabot combos that someone has available to try in your gun. Good luck, and hope someone can help you out in such short order. It's a fun game, and great time to hunt in the late season. True...But with modern equiment/supplies now days is not the big learning curve as it used to be. I would limit my shots to 75 yards or less until I get some time under the belt. This late in the game I would stay with fiber optic sights for now also.
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Post by jajwrigh on Nov 28, 2022 1:50:01 GMT -5
You definitely want the 209 primer version. I have a CVA Optima V2 scoped and a 2nd identical gun with fiber optic irons. I only shoot Blackhorn 209 powder anymore and the gun likes the Barnes TEZ 250 gr bullets. If you can find Federal 209a primers, get those. I am using 70gr of BH209 by weight or you can use 100gr by volume as a rough equivalent.
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Post by BigJLocke on Nov 28, 2022 14:11:18 GMT -5
Error corrected! Called BPI (CVA/ Bergara) and they cancelled the order right away. New order placed, should be here end of the week, first of next week.
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Post by BigJLocke on Nov 28, 2022 14:12:20 GMT -5
This one takes 209 primers
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Post by treetop on Nov 28, 2022 14:37:56 GMT -5
The Powerbelt aero lite you can absolutely not go wrong with out of the optima. Deadly accurate and deadly on deer. I usually match up with two 50 grain pellets. Powerbelts get a lot of hate, but I love them. They are deadly accurate and BY FAR the easiest to load. I also use 2 50gr. triple 7 pellets. What they said I have the same gun and have good groups with it I have found once I’m happy with the way it groups typically now I’m just checking it’s still zero and in working order I clean it real good run 1 round out it than in the morning reload and hunt
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Post by freedomhunter on Nov 28, 2022 15:00:22 GMT -5
My knight is deadly accurate with 100 grains of pyrodex and the silver aerotips you can get spotty blood with them though sometimes
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Post by genesis273 on Nov 28, 2022 15:06:21 GMT -5
Good deal! Good luck and have fun with it.
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Post by BigJLocke on Nov 28, 2022 15:08:59 GMT -5
At the risk of sounding like an idiot, are the pellets the same diameter as the bore? You don’t drop them in and mash them down, right?
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Post by greghopper on Nov 28, 2022 15:14:19 GMT -5
This one takes 209 primers Your gonna be happy with that I say
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Post by greghopper on Nov 28, 2022 15:19:37 GMT -5
At the risk of sounding like an idiot, are the pellets the same diameter as the bore? You don’t drop them in and mash them down, right? Good video.. youtu.be/3DTSVriOP3g
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Post by elmo on Nov 28, 2022 15:21:20 GMT -5
At the risk of sounding like an idiot, are the pellets the same diameter as the bore? You don’t drop them in and mash them down, right? Right you just drop them in( dark side down with pyrodex) and then load and seat your projectile.
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Post by welder on Nov 28, 2022 15:38:39 GMT -5
This one takes 209 primers I love mine, you will too!
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Post by esshup on Nov 28, 2022 15:51:46 GMT -5
Here's my muzzleloader of choice. Savage ML-II with PacNor .45 cal barrel and an Allen Precision Shooting Muzzle Brake on it. It makes shooting it a LOT more pleasant. Pittman 300 grain 45 cal Aeromax bullet. I'll break out the chronograph tomorrow to see how fast they are running. No sabot, just sized to the bore. The powder giving them a kick in the butt obturates them so they engage the rifling.
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Post by M4Madness on Nov 28, 2022 17:55:10 GMT -5
Here's my muzzleloader of choice. Savage ML-II with PacNor .45 cal barrel and an Allen Precision Shooting Muzzle Brake on it. It makes shooting it a LOT more pleasant. Pittman 300 grain 45 cal Aeromax bullet. I'll break out the chronograph tomorrow to see how fast they are running. No sabot, just sized to the bore. The powder giving them a kick in the butt obturates them so they engage the rifling. I need to get serious with my .45 smokeless Hankins-converted CVA Axis. I fired it tonight, as it has been loaded for years (lol) and I didn't want to risk it being compromised. IT SHOT JUST LIKE IT SHOULD. I'm using 56 grains of 4198 and a saboted .40 SST. I'd really like to go with something like you're using, but I've never tried sized-to-fit bullets. I did read something once about knurling bullets, but I'm still ignorant of the process. I also read about people cutting an inch or so off their barrel and using it to press a bullet through to get rifling on it, but I didn't want to cut a crowned barrel to do it.
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Post by BigJLocke on Nov 28, 2022 18:40:38 GMT -5
Here's my muzzleloader of choice. Savage ML-II with PacNor .45 cal barrel and an Allen Precision Shooting Muzzle Brake on it. It makes shooting it a LOT more pleasant. Pittman 300 grain 45 cal Aeromax bullet. I'll break out the chronograph tomorrow to see how fast they are running. No sabot, just sized to the bore. The powder giving them a kick in the butt obturates them so they engage the rifling. That looks like a, not 3 days before the season starts kind of rifle haha. Looks like a bada$$
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