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Post by jwkimber45 on Sept 21, 2006 15:37:15 GMT -5
Lookie Lookie Hooray for Huper and Mitch!!! DNR eliminates handgun restrictions ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hoosiers with valid handgun licenses are now allowed to carry those firearms when under DNR jurisdiction, effective immediately, as the result of four temporary rule modifications signed by Director Kyle Hupfer. “This corrects an inconsistency with DNR rules and the law of the land almost everywhere else in Indiana,” Hupfer said. “I appreciate the Governor’s support to bring this in line with statewide gun policy.” “These changes, which we hope become permanent, make it clear to everyone that nothing in DNR rules should restrict law-abiding citizens who have met all legal requirements and obtained a valid handgun license from exercising their constitutional rights,” Hupfer said. Specifically, the first change allows handgun-licensed individuals on DNR properties to carry a handgun. The other three changes involve hunting activities on both private and public land. Those with handgun licenses will now be able to carry such firearms when hunting wild turkeys or when hunting deer with a bow and arrow. Similarly, handgun-licensed individuals will be able to carry a handgun when running dogs for opossum and raccoon during chasing season. Previously, DNR rules prohibited carrying licensed handguns in these instances. “There is no reason that law-abiding citizens should lose a means of personal protection and the protection of their family solely because they choose to hunt or visit a DNR property.” Hupfer will now submit the rule to the Natural Resource Commission (NRC) for consideration for permanent adoption. By state law, the DNR director has authority to temporarily modify rules for the DNR. Such modifications are valid for a maximum of one year and can be renewed for an additional period not to exceed one year. In order for any DNR rule modification to become permanent, it must be approved by the NRC after successfully passing through a rigorous review process, including a public hearing that is set by state statute. Once a rule becomes permanent, it has indefinite legal application but must undergo "sunset" evaluation every seven years. ---------------------- Media Contact: Marty Benson, Senior Communications Specialist, (317) 233-3853, cell (317) 696-9812 ---------------------- _______________________________________ ---------------------- Unsubscribe, change address or change listserv options at: lists.in.gov/mailman/listinfo/wildbulletin------------------------------------------------------------ Wildbulletin mailing list Wildbulletin@lists.in.gov lists.IN.gov/mailman/listinfo/wildbulletin
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Post by Russ Koon on Sept 21, 2006 17:37:17 GMT -5
Well, I'll be! OK, I guess I'll quit griping about the absolutely stupid change to Playlike Saving Time.
Thank you very much Kyle and Mitch!
I may get to flip the lever to vote Republican again this next time.
Now I have to go renew my carry permit......
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Post by chicobrownbear on Sept 21, 2006 18:51:31 GMT -5
This is extremely good news.
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Post by huxbux on Sept 21, 2006 21:35:49 GMT -5
Outstanding!
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Post by firstwd on Sept 21, 2006 22:37:14 GMT -5
When I close my eyes I see a whole lot of bad things in the future.
Centerfire rifles were taken out as a means of using depredation permits for deer because of one disturbed kid, and they make this change? It just doesn't add up for me. Meeting a C.O. in the woods just got extremely dangerous for both sides!
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Post by bsutravis on Sept 21, 2006 22:48:27 GMT -5
This is a great thing for huntes that also carry! Makes the entire worries that were mentioned in the Pot Bust thread go away if you choose to carry your personal firearm while hunting. Don't ya wish that all rules changes could go into effect as swiftly as this one seems to be going! Thanks Kyle, thanks Mitch!
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Post by firstwd on Sept 21, 2006 22:56:10 GMT -5
When one person has the power to make decisions alone it leaves everyone to suffer the consequences.
I see where people see this as a good thing,but give this some thought. What if Kyle decides the State is not making enough money on licenses sales and suspends the use of Lifetime Licenses? Just because you support a change that was made, does not make the manner in which it was made right.
This should have gone through the rules process and sought public opinion like every thing else.
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Post by hunter480 on Sept 22, 2006 1:21:43 GMT -5
When I close my eyes I see a whole lot of bad things in the future. Centerfire rifles were taken out as a means of using depredation permits for deer because of one disturbed kid, and they make this change? It just doesn't add up for me. Meeting a C.O. in the woods just got extremely dangerous for both sides! ? How did it just get more dangerous for a CO? Forget the fact that 99.999999% of hunters are law-abiding, game regulation abiding folks, but anyone who might mean a CO harm was already packing while hunting anyway-see, that`s how CRIMINALS work. They`re already breaking the LAW. Geesh.
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Post by hunter480 on Sept 22, 2006 1:30:02 GMT -5
When one person has the power to make decisions alone it leaves everyone to suffer the consequences. I see where people see this as a good thing,but give this some thought. What if Kyle decides the State is not making enough money on licenses sales and suspends the use of Lifetime Licenses? Just because you support a change that was made, does not make the manner in which it was made right. This should have gone through the rules process and sought public opinion like every thing else. Are you freaking kidding? First of all-my lifetime comprehensive hunting and fishing license states: "This license is in lieu of: 1) Annual Resident Hunting License 2) Annual Resident Fishing License 3) ALL PRESENT OR FUTURE ANNUAL STAMPS OR LICENSES REQUIRED TO HUNT OR FISH FOR A SPECIFIC SPECIES. Catch that "ALL PRESENT OR FUTURE" part? Come on man-quit complaining and enjoy a GREAT thing. Mitch Daniels is leaving his legacy, and it benefits all law-abiding, licensed folks who carry. WOW. I never saw this coming. Everyone-be SURE to contact the Govenors office and say THANK YOU. It`s Christmas in September.
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Post by hunter480 on Sept 22, 2006 1:38:12 GMT -5
Come on-I know I read it right, but somebody say it-I can carry my Glock .45 while I`m bow hunting for white-tails now. Come on, say it.
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS.
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Post by dbd870 on Sept 22, 2006 4:19:30 GMT -5
Wow I'm impressed! I figured it never would happen; I will voice m thanks to the DNR. as for firstwd: Are police officers on the street more at risk because of the CCW permits? It sounds like typical anti gun rhetoric to me. Of course CO's are not in any more danger than before, come on!
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Post by cambygsp on Sept 22, 2006 4:34:04 GMT -5
WOW!
Carry a handgun while hunting with archery gear, wonder how many will be cited for "finishing off the deer with their handgun" this year.
I don't have a problem with law abiding citizens carrying a handgun, it's our right to keep and bear arms. I do have a problem when some J/A thinks he is doing the "right thing" useing that handgun to finish the deer off.....I can assure you, IT WILL HAPPEN!
I own a handgun, it's locked in the gun safe, I don't carry it. I have never felt THAT unsafe.
I do applaud the Director and Govenor for reconizing a persons rights.
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Post by kevin1 on Sept 22, 2006 4:53:12 GMT -5
WOW! Carry a handgun while hunting with archery gear, wonder how many will be cited for "finishing off the deer with their handgun" this year. If they do that during an archry only season the CO will cite them , and rightly so . Failure to read the rules doesn't make you any less responsible for knowing and abiding by them . Good for Kyle and Mitch ! Finally , a rule change that makes some sense and also reaffirms our Constitutional rights . I wonder if "right to hunt and fish" protection can be far behind ?
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Post by cambygsp on Sept 22, 2006 4:57:48 GMT -5
I would like to hear what some of the ICO's think about the new rule change, allowing the archery hunter to carry a handgun while archery hunting.
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Post by dbd870 on Sept 22, 2006 6:49:02 GMT -5
Nor will you untill the day you need it; then it will be too late. No matter how small the chance is, it's happened before and it will happen again; that's the world we live in.
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Post by DEERTRACKS on Sept 22, 2006 6:55:30 GMT -5
AWESOME news. ;D ;D All party poopers have the right to not carry thier handguns to the woods while bow hunting.
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Post by birddog on Sept 22, 2006 7:00:22 GMT -5
I don't have a problem with law abiding citizens carrying a handgun, it's our right to keep and bear arms. I do have a problem when some J/A thinks he is doing the "right thing" useing that handgun to finish the deer off.....I can assure you, IT WILL HAPPEN!
I agree with the above statement,Sooner or later it will happen!!!!! There is a difference between hunting coon and possum and KILLING A DEER WITH ONE DURING BOW SEASON!!!!
I've bow hunted since 1964 and have never saw the need for a handgun......I already have a concealed to carry permit and have never,ever,taken one with me bow hunting.....why would I want to.
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Post by chicobrownbear on Sept 22, 2006 7:15:22 GMT -5
If someone finishes off a deer with the handgun they are breaking the law, and would be liable for it. I know if they check a deer in around here, there is a better than average chance that a CO will be present at the check in station. There is quite a good bit of public land around here that is prime deer hunting. It also happens to be prime meth cooking land. That is why I would want to carry a handgun.
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Post by Woody Williams on Sept 22, 2006 7:18:35 GMT -5
If someone finishes off a deer with the handgun they are breaking the law, and would be liable for it. I know if they check a deer in around here, there is a better than average chance that a CO will be present at the check in station. There is quite a good bit of public land around here that is prime deer hunting. It also happens to be prime meth cooking land. That is why I would want to carry a handgun. I agree.. this is another one of those laws on the books to try and head off something that someone MIGHT do. Those type of laws punish the law abiding folks and does very little to stop the crooks.
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Post by Decatur on Sept 22, 2006 7:22:42 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure that if you wanted to shoot a deer around my neck of the woods with a handgun, it would be way to easy to do. Sad but true. Rarely is the CO at the check station, unless it's the opening day of gun season, and no one comes out to look at or tag your deer, unless it's a big buck. We need more CO's, or at least people trained to inspect deer that are brought in. I agree, that if people are law breakers anyways, a new law, isn't going to change their actions. I think it's great the state recognizes our rights, and allows us to carry if we want too.
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