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Post by trapperdave on Jan 19, 2008 10:53:30 GMT -5
just wondering how many think telecheck is the way to go.
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Post by tenring on Jan 19, 2008 11:17:48 GMT -5
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Post by Woody Williams on Jan 19, 2008 11:33:55 GMT -5
I've used Tele-check in both KY (telephone)and Illinois (internet)and find it to be very simple and handy to do.
I would support a combination Tele-Check (telephone and internet) and a check station. Hunter's choice....
We can beat the Tele-Check drum but I dont think it will happen anytime soon. At least not until the OBR trial is over (5 years) and the state comes up with the money to install and administer it.
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Post by tenring on Jan 19, 2008 11:46:52 GMT -5
Quite simple, IDNR does not need to install and administer anything, contract it out to a private entity. Colorado did just that for their Habitat stamp last year. Call an 800 number, give out the info, and at the end of the day someone pushes a button and the DNR has all the info they asked for and could also be attached online to their website. Application of the KISS theory.
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Post by Woody Williams on Jan 19, 2008 11:49:12 GMT -5
Quite simple, IDNR does not need to install and administer anything, contract it out to a private entity. Colorado did just that for their Habitat stamp last year. Call an 800 number, give out the info, and at the end of the day someone pushes a button and the DNR has all the info they asked for and could also be attached online to their website. Application of the KISS theory. No matter if the DNR or a contractor installs and/or administers it the Tele-Check will still cost money. Money that the DNR does not have. |
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Post by tenring on Jan 19, 2008 12:02:46 GMT -5
Price of license just went up $0.25. Most will lose more than that out of their pants pockets over the year.
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Post by mrhank on Jan 19, 2008 12:19:06 GMT -5
I live in Ky so all we have is telecheck. Its very user friendly and saves time and gas form having to take your deer to a check station. I am fine with it but there are a lot of people that think it promotes poaching. Its great for people that follow the law but it could make it easier for people to get away without checking their deer in.
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Post by WhoDey78 on Jan 19, 2008 12:41:41 GMT -5
Money is the biggest issue. I agree with Woody, there is going to be a substantial cost to operate the tele-check and currently the local bait shops and gas stations benefit from having hunters stop by. If we go to tele-check, they will lose a chunk of change for sure. I don't know that it would promote poaching, because if you are going to poach, you are going to poach. No moral person who is currently checking in their deer is going to begin poaching because it is easier.
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Post by dbd870 on Jan 19, 2008 12:48:41 GMT -5
I've had this discussion a hundred times - how does it make it easier to cheat? It just as easy to cheat as what we have here. I've hunted KY several years, so I've been both routes; if you don't call it in or bring it in the end is the same. You still have to get a (correct) number before it's taken to be butchered. If you do your own again, still just as easy to cheat. I like that you can pull up the telecheck results on the web this year. I've heard that out of state people didn't always come up, but both mine were there.
I do agree the $ issue is going to be a roadblock. What may end up forcing it is not enough people being willing to be check stations. I'm skeptical that it brings much business in for them, so why go through the hassle.
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Post by drs on Jan 19, 2008 12:48:57 GMT -5
It works in Kentucky & Illinois, so why not Indiana??
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Post by duff on Jan 19, 2008 12:55:29 GMT -5
I would agree with you all. It should be an easy transition if other states have the details worked out we should be able to work off of those models. And no way does it or will it increase poaching by not reporting. If anything the inconvience of having to drive to a check station is resulting in more unchecked deer.
Only downside I see is the state biologist collecting data from certain check stations, but really they could do this at the butcher shops anyways.
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Post by tenring on Jan 19, 2008 12:58:11 GMT -5
It works in Kentucky & Illinois, so why not Indiana?? Please, leave Illinois out of this discussion, look at what their mentality has done with gun laws. |
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Post by Hawkeye on Jan 19, 2008 13:36:26 GMT -5
It works in Kentucky & Illinois, so why not Indiana?? Lots of things work well in other states,but not in Indiana! |
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Post by drs on Jan 19, 2008 13:59:40 GMT -5
It works in Kentucky & Illinois, so why not Indiana?? Lots of things work well in other states,but not in Indiana! Why? |
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Post by Hawkeye on Jan 19, 2008 14:49:29 GMT -5
Lots of things work well in other states,but not in Indiana! Why? Trying to not be to critical, because I really enjoy living,hunting Fishing and my retirement in Indiana, but being from another state and visiting other areas of the country. Have never seen a state with so many people against change of any kind. |
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Post by tenring on Jan 19, 2008 15:02:53 GMT -5
Trying to not be to critical, because I really enjoy living,hunting Fishing and my retirement in Indiana, but being from another state and visiting other areas of the country. Have never seen a state with so many people against change of any kind. ? |
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Post by drs on Jan 19, 2008 15:08:41 GMT -5
Trying to not be to critical, because I really enjoy living,hunting Fishing and my retirement in Indiana, but being from another state and visiting other areas of the country.
Have never seen a state with so many people against change of any kind. That's Indiana for you! |
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Post by ff1126 on Jan 19, 2008 16:41:12 GMT -5
I'm from Missouri, and still hunt there. They have telecheck, and its works great. Sure allot less hassle and more convenient. As far as promotes poaching, are check system here is a joke. I know all the check stations around here, they just hand you your metal band and take your info. I was always under the impression that they had to at least LOOK at the deer and confirm that its a buck or doe.
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Post by indianahick on Jan 19, 2008 18:46:42 GMT -5
I am perfectly happy as is. My check station is my processor. One stop and done.
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Post by trapperdave on Jan 20, 2008 0:17:58 GMT -5
seems to me it would save the state money. how many man hours you think they spend now compiling all the data and entering it into a computer? The info would be entered by the hunter=money saved. Save lots of paper which costs money and trees+printing fees plus rounding all that paper work up...etc, etc. Would free up dnr money to be spent on law enforcement. CO's would have instant access to who entered what and when and can make occassional home visits to verify. seems win/win to me but thats just my opinion.
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