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Post by trapperdave on Aug 3, 2008 8:49:31 GMT -5
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Post by wtlhaven on Aug 3, 2008 9:21:11 GMT -5
Wonder why no one is pushing for EITHER SEX in the Youth Turkey HUNT... The first Turkey you see is no different than the First Deer....How could the few youths out hunting hurt the Turkey population? One step at a time!!!!!!...... ;D
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Post by dsg69 on Aug 3, 2008 9:36:05 GMT -5
I agree with wtlhaven one step at a time. And we are on a deer hunting forum, thats why we are talking about deer hunting. After the youth either sex step I would like to do away with the OBR when it is up in 4 more long years!!
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Post by cambygsp on Aug 3, 2008 9:52:31 GMT -5
No....we need the OBR that way we can add tons of additional opportunity (see Kentucky).
I am not too sure if we are ready for hens in the springtime, if the turkey flock can stand it I don't see why we are not doing it.....I would defer to our turkey biologist on that one.
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Post by greghopper on Aug 3, 2008 10:12:38 GMT -5
I would like to do away with the OBR when it is up in 4 more long years!! .... DREAM ON...
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Post by dsg69 on Aug 3, 2008 10:26:05 GMT -5
OBR is realy good for the guys that just love to bowhunt. I love to bow and gun hunt (with my son and our PCRs that is one of the best new laws in a long time). OBR does nothing but restrict us and take away hunting opportunities.
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Post by cambygsp on Aug 3, 2008 12:26:30 GMT -5
OBR is realy good for the guys that just love to bowhunt. I love to bow and gun hunt (with my son and our PCRs that is one of the best new laws in a long time). OBR does nothing but restrict us and take away hunting opportunities. I disagree.......... The OBR opens alot of doors for additional deer hunting opportunity..........EVERYONE gets one buck OF THEIR CHOICE, and we can pretty much kill as many antlerless deer as your heart desires. Before long you will see a muzzleloader weekend in October and or expansion of archery equipment to include crossbows. It's a great rule!
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Post by Woody Williams on Aug 3, 2008 12:35:44 GMT -5
Wonder why no one is pushing for EITHER SEX in the Youth Turkey HUNT... The first Turkey you see is no different than the First Deer....How could the few youths out hunting hurt the Turkey population? My goal in this is not either sex, but equal treatment in our youth. If adults can kill either sex 4 days later why can not the youth kill either sex during the youth? No other hunter group is confined to antlerless only. In the spring turkey hunt it is male or bearded birds for adults. To equal then the kids should take the same. IF there was a fall youth turkey hunt and they made it hens only I would fight that too.
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Post by duff on Aug 3, 2008 12:54:59 GMT -5
Not sure why there is even any discussion over this. Seems a non-issue to me. Like Woody said these same deer are hunted the next weekend anyways. What was the total take of the youth season last year, my guess is less then 1% of the season total.
I guess a few are afraid little Tommy might get their deer???
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Post by Decatur on Aug 3, 2008 14:38:22 GMT -5
I guess a few are afraid little Tommy might get their deer??? BINGO!
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Post by dsg69 on Aug 3, 2008 16:43:24 GMT -5
BINGO is right. How does letting you only take one buck open more opportunities? 1 is less than 2 I think. If you can show me different I will belive you. I like to have a buck with a bow and a buck with a gun and mix the does in along the way. I see that as more opportunities. How does OBR help with herd control? Back to the topic "Let the kids HUNT" no one owns the deer , I hav 200 acres just for deer. 20 of it is food plots. If the little boy next to us kills one of the bucks we've be watching I would be the first one to tell him GOOD JOB!(next to his dad)
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Post by jackc99 on Aug 3, 2008 19:17:59 GMT -5
I'm guessing that it would be neigh on impossible to change at this late date with the hunting guide published etc. The process to get the rule amended would have to start immediately and then got to public notice and 30 day comment period....nah, can't do this year. No way. Jack Jack, correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the very first youth hunt come out as knowledge to the public far after the regulation book had came out for the year? Is there any chance at all the this could still happen as an emergency rule change for this year?.... Just curious. You would have to convince the DNR Director that this is an emergency situation which neither of us believes. Then it would have to go to the next meeting of the Natural Resources Commission (NRC) which meets next on September 16th. Youth deer season is 11 days later. I really, really think you would be wasting your time. First be glad we got the season after fighting for it for such a long time. Now the youth will have bucks added to "their" special season...next year. Jack P.S. I'm still amazed that all this bickering is taking place. It's overwhelmingly supported by the DNR and the majority of the regulated community. Let it go guys IT IS GOING TO HAPPEN...next year.
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Post by danf on Aug 3, 2008 21:54:27 GMT -5
Just a "what if" question here. Not trying to use this as an argument towards either side, even though I've made my view clear....
WHAT IF a youth hunter was BOW hunting in an URBAN ZONE during the weekend of the youth hunt. We all know the UZ's open on Septemer 15, well before the youth weekend. If a buck walks by during that weekend this year, can the youth shoot it? Which brings up another point.... If a kid is hunting during the youth weekend that otherwise hunts separate from his/her supervision (i.e.- not sitting right next to them) is it legal for them to do so that weekend if they are bow hunting in an urban zone?
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Post by hornharvester on Aug 3, 2008 22:25:59 GMT -5
Just a "what if" question here. Not trying to use this as an argument towards either side, even though I've made my view clear.... WHAT IF a youth hunter was BOW hunting in an URBAN ZONE during the weekend of the youth hunt. We all know the UZ's open on September 15, well before the youth weekend. If a buck walks by during that weekend this year, can the youth shoot it? Which brings up another point.... If a kid is hunting during the youth weekend that otherwise hunts separate from his/her supervision (i.e.- not sitting right next to them) is it legal for them to do so that weekend if they are bow hunting in an urban zone? He could shoot the buck and tag it as an UDZ buck and still be able to shoot another buck after the Oct 1. He or she could also shoot up to 4 does if they are bow hunting in a UDZ zone during the youth weekend. The only place the kids are restricted to anterless only are outside of UDZ zones but they are not resticted to what weapon they use. h.h.
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Post by pav on Aug 4, 2008 5:54:26 GMT -5
Adults have the ability to register and hunt military refuge and state park hunts and get an extra buck if the property allows bucks being taken. I think the kids should have the same opportunity, a license was paid for the same as an adult license and should have the same guidlines. Just my 2 cents Youth are definitely not allowed to participate in state park reductions, but I believe they are eligible for certain military/refuge permits. Big Oaks even hosts a special youth only deer hunt. Pretty sure Muscatatuk still allows youth....I know they used to.
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Post by pav on Aug 4, 2008 6:02:08 GMT -5
Wonder why no one is pushing for EITHER SEX in the Youth Turkey HUNT... The first Turkey you see is no different than the First Deer....How could the few youths out hunting hurt the Turkey population? You ARE joking, right?
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Post by jackc99 on Aug 4, 2008 8:28:39 GMT -5
Maybe we should start shooting hen pheasants, too?
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Post by larryhagmansliver on Aug 4, 2008 13:14:35 GMT -5
Hey little Tommy. There are no bucks in Allen or Ohio counties if this thing ever goes either sex.
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Post by steiny on Aug 4, 2008 16:54:34 GMT -5
Side tracking a bit, but why do the youth need a special season to start with? Sheesh ...... we've got over 3 months of deer hunting, and that early season is a lousy time to take a kid out anyway, hot, skeeters, etc. I'm not terribly opposed to it, but don't see this thing getting a bunch more kids interested in hunting either.
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Post by Woody Williams on Aug 4, 2008 17:02:54 GMT -5
Side tracking a bit, but why do the youth need a special season to start with? Sheesh ...... we've got over 3 months of deer hunting, and that early season is a lousy time to take a kid out anyway, hot, skeeters, etc. I'm not terribly opposed to it, but don't see this thing getting a bunch more kids interested in hunting either. I think the weekend before the gun opener would be better.
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