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Post by pigeonflier on Dec 21, 2022 10:27:58 GMT -5
Look how hard the OBR was fought. For years it was thought it would never pass. It was only just the begining...
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Post by M4Madness on Dec 21, 2022 10:38:34 GMT -5
When your good your just good. I've been that way for years. What irked me is that you are insinuating that me (and others) aren't "good" hunters, yet I've killed as many deer with a bow in a single season as your season this year, and I did it in half the time. I used every tag that I legally could and was done before gun season even opened, and hunted numerous farms while doing so. I even managed to half-a$$ video half of those hunts.
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Post by tynimiller on Dec 21, 2022 10:40:10 GMT -5
I think you allow your crossbow convictions and past issues to downplay their advantages and oversell their negatives. I was with you and until nearly every single time a positive for a crossbow was described as essentially equal or slight. No one is calling for a ban anymore Woody, yet you use that comp multiple times, you should be proud of what you accomplished and the popularity of crossbows throughout the hunting base - the hatred and desire to ban is egregiously smaller now than it was even five years ago, let alone a decade or more.
My Pops is still using both his vertical bow and his crossbow...there isn't a time in this world that exists any longer that he will take his Switchback into a blind or when it gets cold, there are reasons for this is all I'm trying to say.
What I expressed earlier as major advantages are things I know for a fact I'd be much deadlier because if I solely picked up a crossbow instead of a compound - major reasons is my style of hunting and the advantages align greatly. For some it would be the WORST decision they could make, primarily because of what we both agree on:
I'm with you 1,000% a crossbow is vastly more awkward and freaking bulking for any kind of long packing in or deep walks - I'd rather use a gun personally as they balance slung over your back easier and better at that point. It's a massive negative for many style of hunters out there. They're also not even close to what a hunter wants to use without a rest on the move and such...however if/when I hunt with one I personally am just like when I gun hunt and have a shooting stick. If someone isn't going to do that, that is a terrible decision and I would never recommend anyone to freehand shoot a crossbow unless they've practiced and practiced it (especially with longer hold times).
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Post by tynimiller on Dec 21, 2022 10:41:18 GMT -5
When your good your just good. I've been that way for years. What irked me is that you are insinuating that me (and others) aren't "good" hunters, yet I've killed as many deer with a bow in a single season as your season this year, and I did it in half the time. I used every tag that I legally could and was done before gun season even opened, and hunted numerous farms while doing so. I even managed to half-a$$ video half of those hunts. Was it on deer that literally walk five feet from porches and just trot off a few yards when humans get out of their cars and walk inside?
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Post by M4Madness on Dec 21, 2022 10:54:11 GMT -5
Was it on deer that literally walk five feet from porches and just trot off a few yards when humans get out of their cars and walk inside? I'm pleased to say that no leaf blowers were involved in my hunts. Lol! Hey, if he's happy hunting there, I'm happy for him. I wish him no ill.
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Post by tynimiller on Dec 21, 2022 10:55:40 GMT -5
Was it on deer that literally walk five feet from porches and just trot off a few yards when humans get out of their cars and walk inside? I'm pleased to say that no leaf blowers were involved in my hunts. Lol! Hey, if he's happy hunting there, I'm happy for him. I wish him no ill. Oh I'd hunt urban in a heart beat like that...I however wouldn't believe I'm any deadlier of a hunter because of it.
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Post by darinfry on Dec 21, 2022 10:57:50 GMT -5
I'm 45 and hunt with a Stryker crossbow. Hunted with a compound for years but developed bad target panic I made the switch. Happy I did. I'd rather make an ethical shot than make others happy by hunting "their" approved way. Besides that they're easier to hunt on the ground with and I'm not the fan of skurring up trees that I used to be lol
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Post by tynimiller on Dec 21, 2022 11:05:21 GMT -5
I'm 45 and hunt with a Stryker crossbow. Hunted with a compound for years but developed bad target panic I made the switch. Happy I did. I'd rather make an ethical shot than make others happy by hunting "their" approved way Isn't it crazy how seemingly out of nowhere form issues or target panic or trigger punching can hit us? I've never held or shot a Stryker offering, you like it?
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Post by lawrencecountyhunter on Dec 21, 2022 11:37:11 GMT -5
I received pigeonflier 's posts as if they were in jest. At least I hope they were. I probably only had a handful of hunts this year where I couldn't have killed some kind of deer. If I were low on meat, or thought the population needed reduced, I'd have killed a few. The quality of the hunter isn't determined solely by the number of punched tags.
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Post by M4Madness on Dec 21, 2022 11:52:18 GMT -5
I received pigeonflier 's posts as if they were in jest. At least I hope they were. I initially thought so as well. It's extremely difficult to detect sarcasm in written word, so if I'm in error, then I sincerely apologize.
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Post by darinfry on Dec 21, 2022 11:55:39 GMT -5
I'm 45 and hunt with a Stryker crossbow. Hunted with a compound for years but developed bad target panic I made the switch. Happy I did. I'd rather make an ethical shot than make others happy by hunting "their" approved way Isn't it crazy how seemingly out of nowhere form issues or target panic or trigger punching can hit us? I've never held or shot a Stryker offering, you like it? Love it. Great trigger and always just felt good to me. That said heard their customer service is kind of sketchy. Not even sure if they make em anymore
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Post by Mack Apiary Bees on Dec 21, 2022 12:11:40 GMT -5
I received pigeonflier 's posts as if they were in jest. At least I hope they were. I probably only had a handful of hunts this year where I couldn't have killed some kind of deer. If I were low on meat, or thought the population needed reduced, I'd have killed a few. The quality of the hunter isn't determined solely by the number of punched tags. I agree. I had only a few does to shot this year, but passed since I still have meat from the two Ohio does last year. I held out now two years without shooting a buck. I have not taken an Ohio doe yet this year. I still have 5 more weeks. With the three boys moved out one to two is enough.
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Post by tynimiller on Dec 21, 2022 12:39:08 GMT -5
I received pigeonflier 's posts as if they were in jest. At least I hope they were. I initially thought so as well. It's extremely difficult to detect sarcasm in written word, so if I'm in error, then I sincerely apologize. Agreed, same.
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Post by pigeonflier on Dec 21, 2022 12:53:06 GMT -5
When your good your just good. I've been that way for years. What irked me is that you are insinuating that me (and others) aren't "good" hunters, yet I've killed as many deer with a bow in a single season as your season this year, and I did it in half the time. I used every tag that I legally could and was done before gun season even opened, and hunted numerous farms while doing so. I even managed to half-a$$ video half of those hunts. Your missing the point. I'm talking antlered season only. Not any doe patrol. All the doe patrol you can handle.
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Post by pigeonflier on Dec 21, 2022 12:56:28 GMT -5
I'm pleased to say that no leaf blowers were involved in my hunts. Lol! Hey, if he's happy hunting there, I'm happy for him. I wish him no ill. Oh I'd hunt urban in a heart beat like that...I however wouldn't believe I'm any deadlier of a hunter because of it. I'm not any deadlier of a hunter for being there. Don't coRnfuse that one. I'm there because I'm a deadly hunter...
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Post by pigeonflier on Dec 21, 2022 12:59:54 GMT -5
All this resistance to a short gun season is all just because of what you might not get this year. But just think of how many older bucks there would be the next year. 3 or 4 years down the road when the age structure has shifted then it will be thought of the same as OBR was back then.
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Post by pigeonflier on Dec 21, 2022 13:06:25 GMT -5
All the digs about me killing yard deer... Let's get it out in the open. I'm not there hunting wild deer. I'm there to kill off the population that has gotten out of control in the suburbs where hunting is not common..There is a difference.
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Post by tynimiller on Dec 21, 2022 13:13:21 GMT -5
All this resistance to a short gun season is all just because of what you might not get this year. But just think of how many older bucks there would be the next year. 3 or 4 years down the road when the age structure has shifted then it will be thought of the same as OBR was back then. I'll vote for a four day buck season for all. To isolate one group regardless of how much I'd benefit (some years I don't ever touch a gun) from it, just isn't right.
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Post by pigeonflier on Dec 21, 2022 13:17:33 GMT -5
At one time it was thougt that crossbows would NEVER be allowed.... it's only the begining...
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Post by tynimiller on Dec 21, 2022 13:28:13 GMT -5
At one time it was thougt that crossbows would NEVER be allowed.... it's only the begining... Every conversation has a beginning of course...however look back historically at EVERYTHING deer related when it comes to seasons and regulations, when was the last time they took away in the sense of shortening a season, or disallowing a weapon type? OBR is arguably the only time in my life (36 years) that I can remember or think of. The late bonus antlerless season some will try to say but that isn't gone, there just isn't any qualifying counties...quotas have dropped but those from the beginning were designed to change so that doesn't fit... Some of you might be able to think of something I'm clearly overlooking though?
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