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Post by greghopper on Jan 8, 2019 10:39:08 GMT -5
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Post by rjb on Jan 8, 2019 11:04:40 GMT -5
Yes. Thank you.
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Post by parrothead on Jan 8, 2019 12:05:30 GMT -5
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Post by Woody Williams on Jan 9, 2019 9:25:08 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2019 9:40:31 GMT -5
A good article on the subject.
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Post by blackmouthcur on Feb 12, 2019 22:54:40 GMT -5
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Post by jjas on Feb 12, 2019 23:46:36 GMT -5
Thanks for posting the article. It's amazing the differences in reporting on this subject.
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Post by streamangler on Feb 13, 2019 6:35:35 GMT -5
CWD is a scam IMO. No human has ever contracted it that i'm aware of , which is puzzling if it's such a concern. Prions are scary. Contagious proteins that can survive pretty much any treatment or environment know to degrade normally folded proteins. Other prion diseases have been shown to jump species. We know very little about this group of diseases (unlike salmonella, etc) and there is no alternative but a terrible death. Not to mention the real impact it will have on the quantity and quality of WTD.
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Post by streamangler on Feb 13, 2019 14:29:19 GMT -5
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Post by sakorifle on Feb 13, 2019 17:03:52 GMT -5
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Post by blackmouthcur on Feb 13, 2019 18:28:47 GMT -5
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Post by blackmouthcur on Feb 13, 2019 18:34:14 GMT -5
So what’s the answer? Opinions?
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Post by greghopper on Feb 13, 2019 18:58:29 GMT -5
So what’s the answer? Opinions? I can tell you what "science" is NOT....It's doing NOTHING and just standing by watching the results of doing NOTHING as some anti-DNR groups want Indiana to do once CWD is found within the state.SMH "People treat facts as relevant more when the facts tend to support their opinions. When the facts are against their opinions, they don't necessarily deny the facts, but they say the facts are less relevant." Good read.... t.co/PZuiOMpYup
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Post by esshup on Feb 13, 2019 19:40:30 GMT -5
So what’s the answer? Opinions? I honestly don't think anybody knows enough about it to have an answer. Look at Colorado and how many years CWD has been there. They still have a very viable (huntable) deer and elk population. My uneducated guess is that just like a lot of sickness and diseases that go around, the animals that will be susceptible to it will die, the ones that aren't susceptible to it will survive and slowly pass on that immunity to their offspring.
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Post by blackmouthcur on Feb 15, 2019 8:45:39 GMT -5
True, but at what final cost to the rest of the herd that’s not infected yet? Not to mention the prediction that in a few years their expecting it to make the jump to humans. Like I said before, scary stuff. Maybe the best thing is a massive eradication of deer around and in the affected states. Not going to be popular by no means but the alternative I think will be worse in the long run. Eventually we’re going to have a deer herd that’s basically useless until if and when they build up a resistance to this. Just my opinion.
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Post by jjas on Feb 15, 2019 9:39:50 GMT -5
True, but at what final cost to the rest of the herd that’s not infected yet? Not to mention the prediction that in a few years their expecting it to make the jump to humans. Like I said before, scary stuff. Maybe the best thing is a massive eradication of deer around and in the affected states. Not going to be popular by no means but the alternative I think will be worse in the long run. Eventually we’re going to have a deer herd that’s basically useless until if and when they build up a resistance to this. Just my opinion. Some of what I have read says the prions live on in the soil and when deer browse in these areas, they can become infected with CWD then. I've read that many are (at a minimum) saying we should quit putting out mineral blocks and sites, ban urine use, baiting, and stop putting out food for the deer in the Winter so as to try and slow down the spread of CWD.
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Post by esshup on Feb 15, 2019 10:01:45 GMT -5
True, but at what final cost to the rest of the herd that’s not infected yet? Not to mention the prediction that in a few years their expecting it to make the jump to humans. Like I said before, scary stuff. Maybe the best thing is a massive eradication of deer around and in the affected states. Not going to be popular by no means but the alternative I think will be worse in the long run. Eventually we’re going to have a deer herd that’s basically useless until if and when they build up a resistance to this. Just my opinion. If it's soon to jump to humans, I have 2 questions. 1) Where (what state) do they think that will happen in first? 2) If CWD has been in Colorado for 51 years so far, why has none hopped to a human there? i.e. what makes now so different than the past 51 years?
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Post by Huntnfreak on Feb 15, 2019 11:13:21 GMT -5
True, but at what final cost to the rest of the herd that’s not infected yet? Not to mention the prediction that in a few years their expecting it to make the jump to humans. Like I said before, scary stuff. Maybe the best thing is a massive eradication of deer around and in the affected states. Not going to be popular by no means but the alternative I think will be worse in the long run. Eventually we’re going to have a deer herd that’s basically useless until if and when they build up a resistance to this. Just my opinion. How do we not know that some might already have a resistance built up and only the ones with a compromised immune system contract it?
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Post by greghopper on Feb 15, 2019 11:14:07 GMT -5
I would think the first thing that has to happen for a human to get the disease is to eat meats that has the disease..... Not sure there is evidence that has happened yet!
Maybe if some state do nothing and let's nature take its course that day may come...IMO
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Post by whitetaildave24 on Feb 15, 2019 11:54:25 GMT -5
Give me some infected meat. I’ll give it a go.
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