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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2019 12:10:22 GMT -5
In 50 years no cross to humans, so why now. Another scare article with all assumptions and no facts. Another, why not a bigger issue in Ohio vs. Indiana. Ohio is a bait allowed state. Just another assumption. Let's stay with facts.
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Post by greghopper on Feb 15, 2019 12:13:05 GMT -5
Give me some infected meat. I’ll give it a go. www.cdc.gov/prions/cwd/transmission.htmlCWD was transmitted to monkeys that were fed infected meat (muscle tissue) or brain tissue from CWD-infected deer and elk. Some of the meat came from asymptomatic deer that had CWD (i.e., deer that appeared healthy and had not begun to show signs of the illness yet). Hope you get a different result.... good luck!
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Post by greghopper on Feb 15, 2019 12:15:49 GMT -5
In 50 years no cross to humans, so why now. Another scare article with all assumptions and no facts. Another, why not a bigger issue in Ohio vs. Indiana. Ohio is a bait allowed state. Just another assumption. Let's stay with facts. "People treat facts as relevant more when the facts tend to support their opinions. When the facts are against their opinions, they don't necessarily deny the facts, but they say the facts are less relevant." Good read.... t.co/PZuiOMpYup
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2019 12:20:08 GMT -5
Give me some infected meat. I’ll give it a go. www.cdc.gov/prions/cwd/transmission.htmlCWD was transmitted to monkeys that were fed infected meat (muscle tissue) or brain tissue from CWD-infected deer and elk. Some of the meat came from asymptomatic deer that had CWD (i.e., deer that appeared healthy and had not begun to show signs of the illness yet). Hope you get a different result.... good luck! Straight from article: To date, there is no strong evidence for the occurrence of CWD in people, and it is not known if people can get infected with CWD prions. Now that's fact based. Next sentence is an assumption.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2019 12:28:26 GMT -5
In 50 years no cross to humans, so why now. Another scare article with all assumptions and no facts. Another, why not a bigger issue in Ohio vs. Indiana. Ohio is a bait allowed state. Just another assumption. Let's stay with facts. "People treat facts as relevant more when the facts tend to support their opinions. When the facts are against their opinions, they don't necessarily deny the facts, but they say the facts are less relevant." Good read.... t.co/PZuiOMpYupI stick to facts=truths. No evidence in 50 years. No facts yet on baits/food/chemicals sites verses not. Elk herds are still okay in Colorado. By the way. I'm not against CWD, just don't like scare articles that are baseless. www.gohunt.com/read/news/hunters-sound-off-about-colorado-elk-populations#gs.UQqiMTkr
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Post by whitetaildave24 on Feb 15, 2019 15:17:38 GMT -5
With as long as this stuff has been around there has to have been plenty of people that ate meat from an infected animal. Don’t see why now there is a chance it can jump to humans.
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Post by blackmouthcur on Feb 15, 2019 17:45:55 GMT -5
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Post by jjas on Feb 16, 2019 15:09:56 GMT -5
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Post by esshup on Feb 16, 2019 17:37:38 GMT -5
Give me some infected meat. I’ll give it a go. www.cdc.gov/prions/cwd/transmission.htmlCWD was transmitted to monkeys that were fed infected meat (muscle tissue) or brain tissue from CWD-infected deer and elk. Some of the meat came from asymptomatic deer that had CWD (i.e., deer that appeared healthy and had not begun to show signs of the illness yet). Greg: Can you read in the link if the deer meat that was fed to them was cooked or raw? I see that they placed the prions directly into the brain on some: "CWD was also able to spread to macaques that had the infectious material placed directly into their brains." I don't see that happening with humans. I guess you pick your poison to a point too. How many of us on here eat more than 36 grams of sugar a day? That'll kill ya too, but I'm guessing the majority of us still do it.
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Post by blackmouthcur on Feb 16, 2019 19:06:20 GMT -5
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Post by esshup on Feb 16, 2019 20:49:07 GMT -5
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Post by greghopper on Feb 17, 2019 9:04:20 GMT -5
www.cdc.gov/prions/cwd/transmission.htmlCWD was transmitted to monkeys that were fed infected meat (muscle tissue) or brain tissue from CWD-infected deer and elk. Some of the meat came from asymptomatic deer that had CWD (i.e., deer that appeared healthy and had not begun to show signs of the illness yet). Greg: Can you read in the link if the deer meat that was fed to them was cooked or raw? I see that they placed the prions directly into the brain on some: "CWD was also able to spread to macaques that had the infectious material placed directly into their brains." I don't see that happening with humans. I guess you pick your poison to a point too. How many of us on here eat more than 36 grams of sugar a day? That'll kill ya too, but I'm guessing the majority of us still do it. The information provided didn't say if the meat was cooked or not....Here is a quote I found about cooking CWD out of meat from another source. "Prions cannot be destroyed by boiling, alcohol, acid, standard autoclaving methods, or radiation. In fact, infected brains that have been sitting in formaldehyde for decades can still transmit spongiform disease. Cooking your burger 'til it's well done won't destroy the prions!"
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Post by esshup on Feb 17, 2019 14:43:32 GMT -5
It's all a plot hatched by the anti-hunters. LOL
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Post by greghopper on Feb 17, 2019 14:47:27 GMT -5
It's all a plot hatched by the anti-hunters. LOL The SAD part some believe that...
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Post by Woody Williams on Feb 18, 2019 20:22:55 GMT -5
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Post by greghopper on Feb 18, 2019 22:01:35 GMT -5
Exactly.....There is a mountain of scientific evidence supporting the prion hypothesis for CWD. Spiroplasma? Not so much.
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Post by parrothead on Feb 19, 2019 6:37:47 GMT -5
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Post by Woody Williams on Feb 22, 2019 7:10:22 GMT -5
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Post by sakorifle on Feb 23, 2019 18:48:07 GMT -5
Greetings Does this disease effect the elk? regards Billy
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Post by schall53 on Feb 23, 2019 21:11:02 GMT -5
Greetings Does this disease effect the elk? regards Billy Yes
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