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Post by parrothead on Jan 7, 2019 13:16:14 GMT -5
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Post by boonechaser on Jan 7, 2019 13:31:18 GMT -5
Can anyone tell me what MO is doing to keep their prevalence to 1-2%? It seems Indiana will be quick to jump on the Illinois kill ‘em all approach. Certainly this will work for a while, but it seems counterintuitive to want to increase hunter retention, fees and recruitment while eventually reducing opportunities. This seems like a costly band aid at best. Has anything like earn a buck, and maybe increasing buck tags in those areas for a couple of years been tried anywhere? Along with banning mineral sites and mandatory testing? What am I missing on the carcass issue? Do deer feed on brain and spine of other deer? Perhaps they do? Otherwise, how can it be spread this way? It would have jumped to coyotes/wolves and other species by now if it was able and it has not. Mo is basically doing the same thing. If a CWD positive test they cull as many deer as possible in that area. There are NO other alternatives to culling deer in effected area that I have read. ILLINOIS has been most successful using herd reduction in a 10 mile radius of a CWD positive deer. Keep in mind Illinois has been dealing with since 2009 and its spread has been minimal and they still have a pretty good annual deer harvest. PREVENTION is foremost IMO but eventually it's going to make its way to Indiana. Just a bridge to cross when it gets here. Also Colorado, Montana etc. have been dealing with for 40 years and they still have good herds of Elk and mule deer to hunt so it's not the end of deer hunting anywhere it's found. Indiana's deer reduction program came at a very good time IMO as with a smaller herd it will be easier to contain and in smaller areas. Although it will suck it will not be the end of the world as some make it out to be.
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Post by jman46151 on Jan 7, 2019 13:42:10 GMT -5
Can anyone tell me what MO is doing to keep their prevalence to 1-2%? It seems Indiana will be quick to jump on the Illinois kill ‘em all approach. Certainly this will work for a while, but it seems counterintuitive to want to increase hunter retention, fees and recruitment while eventually reducing opportunities. This seems like a costly band aid at best. Has anything like earn a buck, and maybe increasing buck tags in those areas for a couple of years been tried anywhere? Along with banning mineral sites and mandatory testing? What am I missing on the carcass issue? Do deer feed on brain and spine of other deer? Perhaps they do? Otherwise, how can it be spread this way? It would have jumped to coyotes/wolves and other species by now if it was able and it has not. The prions live in the soil for many years. So if someone dumps a carcass the soil around it can be contaminated for years. Scavengers can carry pieces of it off spreading it all around. If a deer in that area licks the ground or gets dirt in its nose or mouth then they could pick up the disease. The prions aren't like bacteria or viruses that need to find a host quickly-they can live in the soil for many years.
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Post by boonechaser on Jan 7, 2019 13:51:16 GMT -5
Pretty similar to "Parvo" in dogs.
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Post by boonechaser on Jan 7, 2019 14:21:48 GMT -5
Pretty similar to "Parvo" in dogs. How it's spread. Bodily fluids into ground and absorbed by plants. Can live there for years waiting on a host.
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Post by blackmouthcur on Jan 7, 2019 17:07:29 GMT -5
Wrong thread, I’ll try again. Not really. Pretty sure most us us arnt eating deer brains from CWD deer nor injecting CWD cells into our brains. CWD is concerning of course and eventually will have to be addressed in Indiana. It also said two of the test animals became infected by eating diseased meat.
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Post by jjas on Jan 7, 2019 17:13:00 GMT -5
There is an article in the latest issue of Outdoor Life magazine on this very topic that is well worth reading.
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Post by boonechaser on Jan 7, 2019 17:17:42 GMT -5
Not really. Pretty sure most us us arnt eating deer brains from CWD deer nor injecting CWD cells into our brains. CWD is concerning of course and eventually will have to be addressed in Indiana. It also said two of the test animals became infected by eating diseased meat.
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Post by boonechaser on Jan 7, 2019 17:19:14 GMT -5
It also said two of the test animals became infected by eating diseased meat. The study I read "The meat" was CWD positive deer brains.
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Post by MuzzleLoader on Jan 7, 2019 18:12:52 GMT -5
Big article in outdoor life about CWD.
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Post by MuzzleLoader on Jan 7, 2019 18:15:25 GMT -5
The study I read "The meat" was CWD positive deer brains. The meat is not brains, it the deer itself. Do not eat until tested.
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Post by boonechaser on Jan 7, 2019 18:59:58 GMT -5
The study I read "The meat" was CWD positive deer brains. The meat is not brains, it the deer itself. Do not eat until tested. What I'm saying is the scientific study I read fed monkeys CWD positive deer brains and the monkeys became infected. It was done in Canada. They also injected monkeys brains with CWD prions and they also too became infected. Still to date there have been no positive tests in humans but this is the concern and why the big uproar.
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Post by Woody Williams on Jan 7, 2019 19:26:45 GMT -5
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Post by Woody Williams on Jan 7, 2019 19:59:54 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2019 20:33:59 GMT -5
The meat was deer brain per what I read. Someone else changed the brains to meat. Fake news to fear people. Lets find the truths. Like before, taxidermist handles hundreds of brains and fluids. To date no has been affected. No reports to date.
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Post by greghopper on Jan 7, 2019 21:01:22 GMT -5
www.cdc.gov/prions/cwd/transmission.htmlCWD was transmitted to monkeys that were fed infected meat (muscle tissue) or brain tissue from CWD-infected deer and elk. Some of the meat came from asymptomatic deer that had CWD (i.e., deer that appeared healthy and had not begun to show signs of the illness yet). More fake news I bet.... from CDC
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Post by boonechaser on Jan 7, 2019 21:20:34 GMT -5
www.cdc.gov/prions/cwd/transmission.htmlCWD was transmitted to monkeys that were fed infected meat (muscle tissue) or brain tissue from CWD-infected deer and elk. Some of the meat came from asymptomatic deer that had CWD (i.e., deer that appeared healthy and had not begun to show signs of the illness yet). More fake news I bet.... from CDC Hey I remember in the movie "Outbreak" the monkey was host and carried the antivirus.... Call the CDC I found the cure....we don't have to vaporize the deer herd... Lol... Well it was a good movie.
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Post by welder on Jan 7, 2019 22:18:43 GMT -5
www.cdc.gov/prions/cwd/transmission.htmlCWD was transmitted to monkeys that were fed infected meat (muscle tissue) or brain tissue from CWD-infected deer and elk. Some of the meat came from asymptomatic deer that had CWD (i.e., deer that appeared healthy and had not begun to show signs of the illness yet). More fake news I bet.... from CDC Hey I remember in the movie "Outbreak" the monkey was host and carried the antivirus.... Call the CDC I found the cure....we don't have to vaporize the deer herd... Lol... Well it was a good movie. Being an admitted "germaphobe", I will strongly say Outbreak was NOT a good movie! LOL!
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Post by MuzzleLoader on Jan 8, 2019 7:22:31 GMT -5
Read the outdoor life article. You won’t believe what one guy did to basically spread the disease in his area. Then taxpayers even got to pay the guy for his efforts.
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Post by rjb on Jan 8, 2019 9:00:55 GMT -5
Can anyone find a link to the actual study done in Canada with abstract? All I can seem to find are articles that tell about the results.
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