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Post by 1shotwade on Jan 6, 2017 10:38:46 GMT -5
Could be Woody but that has been my understanding.This is going back to the argument about OBR that was the precedent set forward at that time by those wanting the OBR.And being it passed,I guess I assumed that was their goal.It could have been different! I've slept since them!LOL!
On another note,my brother that works in Big Oaks mentioned they had the lowest deer harvest ever this year.I think he said 293 (gun I suppose) and that ain't much for 57,000 acres! Wade
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Jan 6, 2017 10:59:27 GMT -5
I remember going to Wisconsin once for a business trip. This little town was on Lake Michigan. The locals were angry at the rich Chicago people buying up the waterfront property and driving up the prices. Locals had a tough time affording it.
I guess this happens everywhere anything is desirable.
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Post by Woody Williams on Jan 6, 2017 10:59:35 GMT -5
Could be Woody but that has been my understanding.This is going back to the argument about OBR that was the precedent set forward at that time by those wanting the OBR.And being it passed,I guess I assumed that was their goal.It could have been different! I've slept since them!LOL! On another note,my brother that works in Big Oaks mentioned they had the lowest deer harvest ever this year.I think he said 293 (gun I suppose) and that ain't much for 57,000 acres! Wade e It was ALL about getting a few more inches of bone on top of a buck's head.. I sent you a PM about this..
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Post by jjas on Jan 6, 2017 11:07:28 GMT -5
I remember going to Wisconsin once for a business trip. This little town was on Lake Michigan. The locals were angry at the rich Chicago people buying up the waterfront property and driving up the prices. Locals had a tough time affording it. I guess this happens everywhere anything is desirable. I think you are 100% correct. It's truly amazing to me what people will spend on deer hunting. And it's only going to get more expensive as time passes and less and less private land is available to hunt on. Simple supply and demand....
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Post by swilk on Jan 6, 2017 11:10:58 GMT -5
People spend money on their hobbies .... always have, always will.
Think boating is cheap? Or racing? Hell, even golfing is expensive.
Some men have drinking and chasing women as hobbies .... might be the most expensive of all.
Also, what constitutes a lot of money all depends on who is doing the evaluating.
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Jan 6, 2017 11:17:26 GMT -5
People spend money on their hobbies .... always have, always will. Think boating is cheap? Or racing? Hell, even golfing is expensive. Some men have drinking and chasing women as hobbies .... might be the most expensive of all. Also, what constitutes a lot of money all depends on who is doing the evaluating. I had a friend who liked to drink and he would about $700/month drinking and this was 20 years ago. I guess it is a matter of perspective. For landowners, it will also increase their value. It's free market and I like it even if I can't play along.
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Post by greghopper on Jan 6, 2017 11:24:53 GMT -5
Could be Woody but that has been my understanding.This is going back to the argument about OBR that was the precedent set forward at that time by those wanting the OBR.And being it passed,I guess I assumed that was their goal.It could have been different! I've slept since them!LOL! On another note,my brother that works in Big Oaks mentioned they had the lowest deer harvest ever this year.I think he said 293 (gun I suppose) and that ain't much for 57,000 acres! Wade The IDNR surveyed folks and the results came back that a large group offolks wanted and were in favor of the OBR. You can go to any internet site in Indiana besides here and the vast majority of folks want the OBR to stay in place here in Indiana...... Plain and simple!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2017 11:26:25 GMT -5
I worked with a friend and his motto was 300mph+. That includes women, airplanes and or anything else that could go that fast. He spent millions for his hobbies. I flow on his jet for work a couple times.
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Post by jjas on Jan 6, 2017 11:27:03 GMT -5
People spend money on their hobbies .... always have, always will. Think boating is cheap? Or racing? Hell, even golfing is expensive. Some men have drinking and chasing women as hobbies .... might be the most expensive of all. Also, what constitutes a lot of money all depends on who is doing the evaluating. Don't dispute what you're saying...but it doesn't make it any less amazing to me what many of us spend on leases, atv/utvs, cameras, clothing, blinds, stands, etc. It's definitely a far cry from the days of crawling up in a tree, sitting on a limb and just killing a deer felt like a huge feat....lol
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Post by Woody Williams on Jan 6, 2017 11:45:09 GMT -5
Could be Woody but that has been my understanding.This is going back to the argument about OBR that was the precedent set forward at that time by those wanting the OBR.And being it passed,I guess I assumed that was their goal.It could have been different! I've slept since them!LOL! On another note,my brother that works in Big Oaks mentioned they had the lowest deer harvest ever this year.I think he said 293 (gun I suppose) and that ain't much for 57,000 acres! Wade The IDNR surveyed folks and the results came back that a large group offolks wanted and were in favor of the OBR. You can go to any internet site in Indiana besides here and the vast majority of folks want the OBR to stay in place here in Indiana...... Plain and simple! Yes, I recall that. Over 30% of the responders were one season deer hunters, mostly gun. The OBR limitations had zero effect on them. Yep, put restrictions on the two season hunters so the gun hunters get more chances at bucks.. In addition the 2010 survey stated -
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Post by davers on Jan 6, 2017 11:56:17 GMT -5
People spend money on their hobbies .... always have, always will. Think boating is cheap? Or racing? Hell, even golfing is expensive. Some men have drinking and chasing women as hobbies .... might be the most expensive of all. Also, what constitutes a lot of money all depends on who is doing the evaluating. Good point, Swilk. My Brother has spent several thousand dollars, this past year, on his hobby which is oil painting. Myself I bet I spent close to that this past year on my hobby which is reloading, shooting, gun collecting. It all depends on what constitutes a "lot of Money" all depends on ones hobby and how much they are willing to spend, to support it.
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Post by greghopper on Jan 6, 2017 11:57:37 GMT -5
Only if a Two buck rule is in place for multi seasons does it affect a one season Hunter...
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Post by onebentarrow on Jan 6, 2017 12:43:02 GMT -5
Not just willing but have available to spend. Remember the mid line average income is around $27,000 a year. Some one in that catagory can not afford amo yet alone drive long distances,leases,camras,multiple stands. Multiple guns etc. We should be thankful we have the privilege to be able to spend what we do and the time we do and remember some/meny are not as luckey as we are
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Post by Woody Williams on Jan 6, 2017 12:43:16 GMT -5
Only if a Two buck rule is in place for multi seasons does it affect a one season Hunter... Uh no.. the gun only hunters will complain that the bowhunters will be killing "their bucks".
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Post by onebentarrow on Jan 6, 2017 12:52:19 GMT -5
Dave I was only trying to point out the outside extreme.Unlikely,yes,impossible,no,it could happen. The whole point being the state has been allowing hunters to try and balance the herd by doe reduction.We should not expect them to pass a law that counters that by allowing there to be more bucks taken. Onebent,I wasn't implying anything.Just trying to give you ideas as to better help your situation.I'd say if you can't go to the deer to hunt you need to bring the deer to you.20 acres isn't much but managed right(if you have the opportunity to do that)can hold deer just like any place else.It's hard to find deer after the first day of gun season. They stay where they think it's safe or the go nocturnal.I know of a little patch of woods that's no more than an acre and one year during gun season I saw 5 deer in it in the daylight and I saw them on 7 different occasions.It might sound like they are cheating but they aren't.They read the rule book. They know what they need to do to survive the season when the first shots are fired. So there is no confusion,I am only trying to give you ideas that may help your hunting situation.That's what is good about these forums. People helping people. Wade No ofence takem. I was also just trying to show you some of us do not have it as good as others and just because it works in your neck of the woods does not mean it will work in mine. The 20 acres I hunt are not mine and I very limited in what I can and can not do. I had my own piece of heaven for a while then we took a 15% cut in pay and I had to sell because I could not afford to keep it. I had food plots and was working on cover and had noticed I was seeing more deer but that is all gone now and I have to do with what I have. Onebentarrow
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Post by onebentarrow on Jan 6, 2017 13:45:10 GMT -5
What OBR has done is allow some of the younger bucks to become older bucks.You won't have big bucks if you keep killing the little bucks. Wade I DON'T WANT.BIGGER BUCKS I WANT MEAT IN THE FREEZER. you are telling me because you want bigger deer I have to too. The OBR benifits the FEW and not the MENY.
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Post by greghopper on Jan 6, 2017 14:21:33 GMT -5
Only if a Two buck rule is in place for multi seasons does it affect a one season Hunter... Uh no.. the gun only hunters will complain that the bowhunters will be killing "their bucks". Hearsay... Lol If your gonna let folks kill Two Bucks it should be any season.....But we all know Two bucks will not happen any time soon! BTW... The poll taken here says most folks hunt all season if I remember right.
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Post by 1shotwade on Jan 6, 2017 14:54:45 GMT -5
I DON'T WANT.BIGGER BUCKS I WANT MEAT IN THE FREEZER. you are telling me because you want bigger deer I have to too. The OBR benifits the FEW and not the MENY. Oh no,that's not the point I was trying to make.I was only implying that if you shoot young bucks they will never reach their full potential. In my opinion there are 5 things you must do to kill trophy deer.First I guess is that you have to have a place to hunt.next is the place you hunt has to have trophy deer.You can't kill them if they are not there.then you have to make up your mind you are not going to settle for a lesser deer.The fourth thing is you have to spend every available moment hanging off a tree(os similar). And the last thing is you have to make the shot. The more things that are missing from this equation the chance you have to take a big buck.Wade
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Jan 6, 2017 17:10:35 GMT -5
I think they should let handicap guys shoot two bucks/year. I'm sure you all agree.
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Post by throbak on Jan 6, 2017 18:07:07 GMT -5
I think they should let handicap guys shoot two bucks/year. I'm sure you all agree. You can😎lol BOK , Crane , State ,state park
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