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Post by boonechaser on Jan 5, 2016 9:48:50 GMT -5
One of my friend's called me over weekend upset, said he had shot a doe. Told him congrat's and asked if he needed help getting deer in. He said no and that he would never hunt late antlerless season again. I asked what was the matter and he said he shot deer and was field dressing. Doe had 3 fetus's the size of rabbit's in her. Said he didn't realize doe's would be that far along. (That's the reality.) Said he would never shot a doe after mid November again. Personally I shoot a doe or 2 per season for freezer, but I always shoot early October before pre rut kick's in. My reason is two fold. 1- Less does running around before pre rut means bucks might have to look a little harder for receptive doe and 2 what he found out. I have no shortage of antlerless deer in my area and I would prefer that to be the case in future. To me it would make more sense to have a early antlerless season than a late one if you are gonna have one at all. But that's JMO.
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Post by omegahunter on Jan 5, 2016 9:57:42 GMT -5
Not had that happen yet, but did with really late season squirrel. However, if that doe were shot early or late those three fawns wouldn't have happened anyway.
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Post by boonechaser on Jan 5, 2016 10:02:51 GMT -5
No argument. But not seeing the fetus's vs. seeing the fetus's is what got to my friend and changed his mind I believe.
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Post by esshup on Jan 5, 2016 10:06:27 GMT -5
Not had that happen yet, but did with really late season squirrel. However, if that doe were shot early or late those three fawns wouldn't have happened anyway. Ditto. I've also shot a buck that already dropped it's antlers at the end of ML season before. With the one buck rule I was still legal but....... Since I hunt to put meat in the freezer, I try to get what I need before it gets cold out, but stuff happens and I have been out at the end of the season. What happens, happens. It's all a personal choice, and whether a doe has been bred or not doesn't bother me. Who's to say those wouldn't have been coyote food anyway?
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Post by jjas on Jan 5, 2016 10:22:31 GMT -5
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Post by Woody Williams on Jan 5, 2016 10:26:50 GMT -5
The DNR wanted a 9 day early Muzzleloader season in October but the "stakeholder groups" threw a fit..
Anyone recall if that proposal was for antlerless only?
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Post by esshup on Jan 5, 2016 10:42:12 GMT -5
The DNR wanted a 9 day early Muzzleloader season in October but the "stakeholder groups" threw a fit.. Anyone recall if that proposal was for antlerless only? I'd be perfectly happy with that even if it was antlerless only.
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Post by boonechaser on Jan 5, 2016 10:42:20 GMT -5
Not judging people. Just stating the conversation. Personally I have never taken a doe past mid November and have never hunted a day past muzzleloader season in 35 plus year's of deer season's. I hunt hard from Mid October to end November. Then pack it in and work towards next year. I realize how math works and a doe shot in October is going to have the same amount of fawn's as the doe shot in December. -0-
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Post by steiny on Jan 5, 2016 11:12:06 GMT -5
I found a shed Sunday while season was still in.
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Post by Woody Williams on Jan 5, 2016 11:12:38 GMT -5
The DNR wanted a 9 day early Muzzleloader season in October but the "stakeholder groups" threw a fit.. Anyone recall if that proposal was for antlerless only? It was "antlerless only" in October for firearms in Proposal 1 .. BUT... the Proposal 1 on the late season was any county, not just the 4 and up counties.
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Post by swilk on Jan 5, 2016 11:31:34 GMT -5
The net result is the same no matter when a female deer is killed but I can't fault a guy for not wanting to kill one after she is bred....
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Post by urbanguy on Jan 5, 2016 12:09:59 GMT -5
I consider myself a dedicated hunter and can handle a lot but seeing that would probably have changed my mind as well.
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Jan 5, 2016 12:27:06 GMT -5
Yep, if I'd seen it, it would have made an impact on me.
Now if one of my coon has babies in her, I'm still going at them.
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Post by jjas on Jan 5, 2016 12:31:07 GMT -5
I don't see it happening, but I wouldn't mind the antlerless season being held in October and said so back then.
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Post by 10point on Jan 5, 2016 13:10:27 GMT -5
Did not see a fetus in the button buck I got on Sunday.
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Jan 5, 2016 14:28:31 GMT -5
Did not see a fetus in the button buck I got on Sunday. Sheeeeeeew! That would have given the transgenders hope.
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Post by beermaker on Jan 5, 2016 18:02:17 GMT -5
Nope, that would be it for me. I can and have stomached damn near everything, but that would hit me like a truck.
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Post by jjas on Jan 5, 2016 19:00:14 GMT -5
I've read the responses on this subject and have to ask the question....
Why is there so much sentiment against killing a doe that may be pregnant, but I hear very few regrets from hunters over killing fawns when they are 4-6 months old?
Just wonder why?
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Post by swilk on Jan 5, 2016 19:46:15 GMT -5
I've read the responses on this subject and have to ask the question.... Why is there so much sentiment against killing a doe that may be pregnant, but I hear very few regrets from hunters over killing fawns when they are 4-6 months old? Just wonder why? Neither bothers me but do you really not see a difference?
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Post by jjas on Jan 5, 2016 20:02:54 GMT -5
I've read the responses on this subject and have to ask the question.... Why is there so much sentiment against killing a doe that may be pregnant, but I hear very few regrets from hunters over killing fawns when they are 4-6 months old? Just wonder why? Neither bothers me but do you really not see a difference? I would rather kill an adult doe than a fawn.
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