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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2010 9:27:34 GMT -5
Oct. antlerless days....you can already kill does on those days? I think we'll just put on orange and stick with archery on those days or close it down if you can't shoot bucks with archery....their call on that? I'm not buying into the need for these changes.
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Post by deerman1 on Jul 22, 2010 15:53:16 GMT -5
Oct. antlerless days....you can already kill does on those days? I think we'll just put on orange and stick with archery on those days or close it down if you can't shoot bucks with archery....their call on that? I'm not buying into the need for these changes. there is no way that can allow the taking of a buck that weekend bow or other wise it woud defeat the porpose wouldnt it ?
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Post by HuntMeister on Jul 22, 2010 17:15:03 GMT -5
Chad Stewart told me that yes, bowhunters will be allowed to target bucks during this two day antlerless hunt in Oct. Oct. antlerless days....you can already kill does on those days? I think we'll just put on orange and stick with archery on those days or close it down if you can't shoot bucks with archery....their call on that? I'm not buying into the need for these changes. there is no way that can allow the taking of a buck that weekend bow or other wise it woud defeat the porpose wouldnt it ?
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Post by whiteoak on Jul 22, 2010 17:48:51 GMT -5
You know this will happen. I wonder how many firearms used this weekend guns will be firing Rage broadheads if Godzilla walks by. It is a fact that not every person in the state is ethical. Just ask any conservation officer. Most check stations I have been to are very relaxed about actually looking at your deer let alone determining what type of wound is on the animal.
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Post by deerman on Jul 22, 2010 18:21:27 GMT -5
You know this will happen. I wonder how many firearms used this weekend guns will be firing Rage broadheads if Godzilla walks by. It is a fact that not every person in the state is ethical. Just ask any conservation officer. Most check stations I have been to are very relaxed about actually looking at your deer let alone determining what type of wound is on the animal. First off, I'm not saying I'm for or against the proposals yet but isn't it legal to carry a handgun now while bowhunting? I'm sure some deer have fell to these guns during the "bow" season. Bad apples are always going to look for and find ways to break the law.
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Post by Decatur on Jul 22, 2010 18:37:25 GMT -5
Most check stations I have been to are very relaxed about actually looking at your deer... That's because they aren't required to, which I think they should be.
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Post by old3arrows on Jul 22, 2010 19:09:30 GMT -5
First off, I would like to say a big thank you to Woody for all the work you have done getting the word out on these proposals, I think you are an upstanding sportsman and really care about the future of hunting in Indiana. I have kept my mouth shut for quite a while and just read all of the positive and negative posts on these proposals. But frankly, I am ticked off! I hunt deer in all seasons with all equipment, bow, shotgun, PCR, and muzzle-loader. But I don't want special interest groups like the IBA and IDHA telling me how, when, and what to harvest! And why the heck does the Bloomington County Council have input with the NRC anyway? Maybe Grandview Golf Course in Anderson, IN should attend an NRC meeting as a special interest group and complain about deer/golf cart collisions and deer droppings on the greens, then maybe we can get a good ole two day special hunt in downtown Anderson that lies in a county with an 8 for a bonus county number! The shortening of the gun and muzzy season and moving gun back out of the tail end of the rut is counterproductive when your overall goal is to reduce the deer herd! And don't get me started on the OBR, cause wouldn't killing two bucks be better than one in overall harvest numbers! The whole thing just stinks! I have sent my comments to the NRC, and I promise not to bother my district biologist, because he has already told me in the past his input falls on deaf ears! I have e-mailed all of my hunting buddies, and put a post on FB. I even wrote an e-mail to Rick Bramwell of the Anderson Herald hoping he will write a column on his weekly outdoors page to get the message out to more deer hunters. Maybe the voice of the average Joe deer hunter will prevail and put an end to this nonsense!
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Post by gusmc01 on Jul 23, 2010 9:41:38 GMT -5
I think the state is making this a lot harder than it needs to. You can make some changes and still keep the majority happy. Want to move firearm season out of the rut......fine, just push the start of it back a week. That way it's still two weeks long and still includes Thanksgiving for those traditionalists who insist on keeping Thanksgiving weekend in the firearm season. Want to add extra anterless doe seasons.....fine, just don't add them on holiday weekends. How many hunters are you losing by having a season from Dec 25 to Jan 1, a time when many are traveling and spending time with families. Shouldn't be hard to pick a week for an antlerless only season that doesn't include TWO major holidays. For those of us who travel for Thanksgiving too, shortening the firearm season to 9 days only gives us one non-holiday weekend to hunt with a shotgun. Ouch. Why do they have to make things so complicated?
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Post by Decatur on Jul 23, 2010 10:03:53 GMT -5
Welcome Gusmc01! Marine?
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Post by gusmc01 on Jul 23, 2010 10:17:30 GMT -5
Thanks, good to be here. No not a marine. I get that question a lot. Maybe I should change my handle - Gus is just a nickname.
Realistically, what are the odds that these changes get passed? Are we talking 50/50 or is this basically a done deal? I really hope they reconsider. Shotgun hunters get 9 days out of the year to pursue a buck? That hurts. I agree with some others that there could be some unintended consquences from that.....a la deer drives, increased trespassing and more chaos afield.
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Post by Decatur on Jul 23, 2010 10:18:46 GMT -5
It's not supposed to be a done deal.
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Post by HuntMeister on Jul 23, 2010 11:31:51 GMT -5
I'm betting a done deal unless they get a VERY LARGE group of hoosiers speaking against it. Realistically, what are the odds that these changes get passed? Are we talking 50/50 or is this basically a done deal?
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Post by Woody Williams on Jul 23, 2010 11:38:21 GMT -5
I'm betting a done deal unless they get a VERY LARGE group of hoosiers speaking against it. Realistically, what are the odds that these changes get passed? Are we talking 50/50 or is this basically a done deal? Yep...
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Post by omegabl on Jul 23, 2010 14:17:18 GMT -5
I have to believe in the system and have to believe that, if we show up in force, opposing these changes, they will have to listen. At least one member of the board brought up his concern with the 2 seasons being shortened. Knowing what little I know about government, I figured the proposed changes would go through the meeting as submitted and now will be the time to make a difference, but we need to be somewhat unified on what we want, or it will go through as proposed. I do not particularly like the October gun hunt, but could live with it. I would like to see: 1. Leave gun and muzzle loader seasons the same. 2. Add the last antlerless season starting the 26th not the 25th A. allow ANY unused tag to shoot an antlerless (including buck tags) (last season) B. Charge $5 for a new tag (last season)
If they truly want does killed and 91% of the people surveyed said price was the issue, this should address that, in addition to generating a little extra revenue for the DNR. I would really just like to see them ad the last season and review it after a year or two and then make further adjustments as needed. They are proposing too many rule changes for a 5 year period to really get a cause and effect scenario that will be accurate.
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Post by DEERTRACKS on Jul 23, 2010 14:21:07 GMT -5
I'm betting a done deal unless they get a VERY LARGE group of hoosiers speaking against it. Realistically, what are the odds that these changes get passed? Are we talking 50/50 or is this basically a done deal? Hey they always want to hear from the out-of-state hunters for their out-of-state money! Let them in on the fray too.
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Post by huxbux on Jul 23, 2010 14:24:40 GMT -5
I have to believe in the system and have to believe that, if we show up in force, opposing these changes, they will have to listen. They'll listen, but that doesn't mean they'll change their minds. If they stay this course, they will lose my business.
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Post by tenring on Jul 23, 2010 15:05:38 GMT -5
Most check stations I have been to are very relaxed about actually looking at your deer... That's because they aren't required to, which I think they should be. I would agree with you, except! I can remember numerous reports of small grocery stores with only one employee on a shift, that also acted as a check station, when after going out side to attach the required metal tag, returned to find their cash register empty. That's what started the " attach the tag your self" thing.
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Post by Decatur on Jul 23, 2010 16:56:20 GMT -5
Do you have a link to that story so I can show my buddy?
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Post by tenring on Jul 23, 2010 18:04:59 GMT -5
Too many years ago, just remember reading [and hearing] about them. Sorry.
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Post by turkeyscout on Jul 24, 2010 8:18:18 GMT -5
I have to believe in the system and have to believe that, if we show up in force, opposing these changes, they will have to listen. They'll listen, but that doesn't mean they'll change their minds. If they stay this course, they will lose my business. ........................................................................................................GOOD POINT HUX......WHEN THESE PROPOSALS ARE PASSED THAT MEANS THE " BALL" IS BACK IN OUR HANDS, AS sportsman if we are not happy we do not have to pull the trigger, a couple years of that ,they (nrc) will be beggin us and maybe listen to the average sportsman on deer hunting, just remember ,we do get the BALL LAST................turkey scout
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