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Apr 26, 2007 13:52:31 GMT -5
Post by birddog on Apr 26, 2007 13:52:31 GMT -5
Exxon Mobil Posts Record First Quarter Earnings Thursday, April 26, 2007
Saw the above posted on Fox News......and we keep paying and they keep laughing all the way to the bank!!!!!!!
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Apr 26, 2007 13:57:28 GMT -5
Post by DEERTRACKS on Apr 26, 2007 13:57:28 GMT -5
Legalized robbery!!!!!!!!
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Apr 26, 2007 15:44:20 GMT -5
Post by hornharvester on Apr 26, 2007 15:44:20 GMT -5
The government is run by oil men so what do you expect? h.h.
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Apr 26, 2007 15:49:23 GMT -5
Post by birddog on Apr 26, 2007 15:49:23 GMT -5
Actually....Not much!!!!!!!!!
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Apr 26, 2007 17:16:58 GMT -5
Post by Decatur on Apr 26, 2007 17:16:58 GMT -5
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Apr 27, 2007 6:46:00 GMT -5
Post by drs on Apr 27, 2007 6:46:00 GMT -5
The government is run by oil men so what do you expect? h.h. Good Point, and correct!!
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Apr 27, 2007 7:16:25 GMT -5
Post by drgreyhound on Apr 27, 2007 7:16:25 GMT -5
I understand that the oil men have just as much right to make a living as anyone else does, as we need gasoline and someone needs to sell it to us, but I'm just sick of the high prices.
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Apr 28, 2007 7:30:21 GMT -5
Post by drs on Apr 28, 2007 7:30:21 GMT -5
Like I've said time & time before, We need to develop an economic engine that uses Hydrogen Fuel Cells.
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Apr 28, 2007 7:42:19 GMT -5
Post by bsutravis on Apr 28, 2007 7:42:19 GMT -5
Ya know..... I'm as sick of the gas prices as everyone else, but have you ever really stopped to think about what that $3/gallon is getting you? I mean, lets say your average vehicle gets 20 mpg...... and you needed to go 20 miles from your house, wouldn't you think that $3 seems reasonable for a product to help propel your horseless buggy 20 miles??? I do. Sure, I WISH it were $1 / gallon........ but I'm not gonna loose any sleep over it, or worry myself silly. I'll pay my $3 and travel my 20 miles.......if I don't wanna pay it, I can always walk.
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Apr 28, 2007 16:01:00 GMT -5
Post by steiny on Apr 28, 2007 16:01:00 GMT -5
Good post BSU. Nobody holds a gun to our head and forces us to drive anywhere. Park the dang thing, if you can't afford it.
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Apr 28, 2007 19:50:17 GMT -5
Post by JohnSmiles on Apr 28, 2007 19:50:17 GMT -5
Excuse me? We are getting raped here guys, by an oil controlled government who cares a fig about America itself. There were once terms used to describe what is going on, but they do not seem to apply today. Price gouging, entrapment, police brutality, . . . its all going on so often it doesn't even count anymore, let alone get prosecuted or even investigated. This is nothing but greed. Not everyone makes enough money to see it as 'no big deal', as it is not exactly something you can just do without. I am surprised that some seem to feel as if you can.
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Apr 29, 2007 1:40:49 GMT -5
Post by bsutravis on Apr 29, 2007 1:40:49 GMT -5
John...... I'm not saying it's a not a big deal.... NO company should be posting record earning year after year that total in the billions. I'm not saying they AREN'T gouging....... I'm just saying that in relative terms, I'd gladly fork over $3 in lieu of me having to walk 20 miles (or whatever your vehicle mileage may be). If you were walking along the highway and had another 40 miles to go, and someone drove up and offered to take you the rest of the way for $6 would you pay it, or keep walking? As opposed to walking it, I'll drop down the $6 and be thankful I'm not having to walk.
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Apr 29, 2007 21:15:23 GMT -5
Post by JohnSmiles on Apr 29, 2007 21:15:23 GMT -5
John...... I'm not saying it's a not a big deal.... NO company should be posting record earning year after year that total in the billions. I'm not saying they AREN'T gouging....... I'm just saying that in relative terms, I'd gladly fork over $3 in lieu of me having to walk 20 miles (or whatever your vehicle mileage may be). If you were walking along the highway and had another 40 miles to go, and someone drove up and offered to take you the rest of the way for $6 would you pay it, or keep walking? As opposed to walking it, I'll drop down the $6 and be thankful I'm not having to walk. My reply was towards steiny: Good post BSU. Nobody holds a gun to our head and forces us to drive anywhere. Park the dang thing, if you can't afford it. In point of fact, MOST people do NOT have a choice, unless you consider being unemployed and living on the street a viable option.
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Apr 30, 2007 4:59:42 GMT -5
Post by cambygsp on Apr 30, 2007 4:59:42 GMT -5
I agree, productive citizens are as dependant on gas as they are air or food, you just can't survive without gas. With all this said, how do the oil companies keep posting RECORD profits?
Our government would not tolerate this kind of robbery from any other industry, if the beef cattlemen were posting profits in the trillions, the government would impose some sort of limit on the price of meat.
It's CRAZY, just CRAZY!
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Apr 30, 2007 20:53:27 GMT -5
Post by steiny on Apr 30, 2007 20:53:27 GMT -5
How many of us have truly been hurt by the gas price?
Are you car pooling yet, or still driving by yourself to work every day.? How many of us drive full size trucks, SUV's and 4wd's? How many of us jump in our cars and run to town for every little thing, instead of planning ahead and picking things up on our daily routine? How many of us sit at the drive up windows burning gas for several minutes, instead of getting out and going in to get what we need? Take a look around on your morning commute, and most vehicles have only one passenger. How many of us have play toys, ATV's, boats, cycles, hot rods, etc. that burn gas?
Point is .... We still waste one heck of a lot of gas,and we won't change these wasteful ways until it hits $10 per gallon. And guess what .... $10 per gallon is coming, probably sooner than we think. There is not an unlimited supply of oil on this earth. It's is getting consumed faster than ever, and we now have many developing countries demanding that oil also. We will change our ways eventually .... but's it's going to have to hit us hard, right square between the eyes to wake us up.
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Apr 30, 2007 22:25:20 GMT -5
Post by JohnSmiles on Apr 30, 2007 22:25:20 GMT -5
How many of us have truly been hurt by the gas price? Quite a few. Are you claiming no one you know has been affected? I am just guessing you make a considerable amount more money than I or many I know do. Are you car pooling yet, or still driving by yourself to work every day.? How many of us drive full size trucks, SUV's and 4wd's? How many of us jump in our cars and run to town for every little thing, instead of planning ahead and picking things up on our daily routine? How many of us sit at the drive up windows burning gas for several minutes, instead of getting out and going in to get what we need? Take a look around on your morning commute, and most vehicles have only one passenger. How many of us have play toys, ATV's, boats, cycles, hot rods, etc. that burn gas? I have no toys. I still have the same truck I bought in 94. I detest drive through, but you will waste only a few CENTS worth of gas idling for 5 minutes anyway. I do not make special trips to the store, other than once or twice a year when at the last minute it so happens we forgot something for a party or a dinner. The only 'special' trips I make are the 5-6 trips a year I make to Terre Haute to hunt and visit my siblings, and 3-4 trips up to Michigan. I do ALL my shopping on my way home from work. Always have. I am a very large man, and cannot comfortably drive much of anything short of 'full size'. Just because many people still waste food every day does NOT indicate there few people actually starving. It simply indicates there are many people who could care less about them. Point is .... We still waste one heck of a lot of gas,and we won't change these wasteful ways until it hits $10 per gallon. And guess what .... $10 per gallon is coming, probably sooner than we think. There is not an unlimited supply of oil on this earth. It's is getting consumed faster than ever, and we now have many developing countries demanding that oil also. We will change our ways eventually .... but's it's going to have to hit us hard, right square between the eyes to wake us up. There has NEVER been an unlimited supply. Peak Oil has been openly discussed for 50 years. All that is going on now was known to be coming 50 years ago. The catch is this: there were then, and still are now, billions and billions of dollars to be made selling the stuff. If you could flip a switch and end our dependance on oil, you would be dead before you could reach for it. This is not little Annies kool aid stand we are talking about. This is big business, oil cartel, corruption to the extreme here. People are killed every day over this, and if you or I were any real threat to their monopoly, we would be dead before morning. Not a conspiracy here, just cold, simple fact. These are the real deal here. Its been over 30 years since the last permit was issued for a new nuclear plant to be built. Our clean and renewable natural energy sources have only been scratched at the surface. We are still slaves to oil simply because enough of our government has been either paid off or threatened to ensure we are buying it as fast as they can produce it. Picture this: I own billions of gallons of stuff that is making me wealthy beyond most of mankinds ability to comprehend. But, there are options that could be taken to reduce the value of what I own by a very large percentage. You are one of those 'options'. I have one of my guys come see you and make it very clear: you can become quite wealthy by YOUR standards, or you and your family can become very dead. There is no 3rd choice. I am aware some can't accept this as reality, and never will. I can assure you it happens just this way on a regular basis. When the stakes are billions of dollars, there are no rules, and those at the top got there by first and foremost accepting that. The only 'waking up' that needs to be done is for Americans to wake up and realize that MANY of those at the top are not acting on OUR best interests at all. Give me several hundred billion dollars, and I can assure you that within a few years I will have a great deal of power over several nations by one means or another. These oil barons have had almost a 100 years to plug all the holes that actually matter. Oil companies own our government, and most others.
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May 1, 2007 3:53:37 GMT -5
Post by cambygsp on May 1, 2007 3:53:37 GMT -5
Every person on this board has been affected. Fuel prices have alot to do with your property taxes, school bus, fire trucks, police cars all burn fuel and those agencies are paying upwards to 3.00 a gallon for it.
Property taxes are expected to rise about 24% this year.
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May 1, 2007 4:08:10 GMT -5
Post by dbd870 on May 1, 2007 4:08:10 GMT -5
I understand what you're trying to say steiny but you might try painting with a smaller brush. I too have no toys, I too try to do all our shopping on the way home......you get the idea. Maybe as prices finally get high enough they'll get serious about alternatives. "Many of those at the top are not acting in our best interests at all" - no doubt about that.
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May 2, 2007 20:40:32 GMT -5
Post by steiny on May 2, 2007 20:40:32 GMT -5
Sorry, but I don't buy the Johnsmiles grassy knoll, conspiracy theory. Those big oil companies are deliverying fuel to the consumer as cheap as they can possibly do it. It is a competitive business, just like everything else, and Marathon, Shell or whoever buys it and sells it as cheap as they can while still making a profit. The reason their profits are bigger than ever, is because the product is in more demand than ever, and they are selling more dollars worth of the stuff than ever.
I don't know what everyone here does for a living, but put yourself in the oil companies position. You have invested allof your resources in equipment, facilities, human resources and infrastructure. You have a product everyone wants, and there isn't hardly enough of it to go around. Should you reduce price? Barnyard economics .... heck no! You better make a buck while the resource is still available, because you'll have to find something new to do when it runs out. And it aint gonna be cheap getting into a new line of work.
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May 2, 2007 21:10:37 GMT -5
Post by JohnSmiles on May 2, 2007 21:10:37 GMT -5
Sorry, but I don't buy the Johnsmiles grassy knoll, conspiracy theory. Those big oil companies are deliverying fuel to the consumer as cheap as they can possibly do it. It is a competitive business, just like everything else, and Marathon, Shell or whoever buys it and sells it as cheap as they can while still making a profit. The reason their profits are bigger than ever, is because the product is in more demand than ever, and they are selling more dollars worth of the stuff than ever. I don't know what everyone here does for a living, but put yourself in the oil companies position. You have invested allof your resources in equipment, facilities, human resources and infrastructure. You have a product everyone wants, and there isn't hardly enough of it to go around. Should you reduce price? Barnyard economics .... heck no! You better make a buck while the resource is still available, because you'll have to find something new to do when it runs out. And it aint gonna be cheap getting into a new line of work. You are making this personal and attacking me again why exactly? Nothing I said is in any way a conspiracy. Buy since you can't argue the post, insult the poster eh? You are a creature of habit.
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