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Post by Woody Williams on Jul 13, 2006 11:35:00 GMT -5
Tennessee 3 Bucks Versus Indiana 1 Buck The pro- One Buck Restriction folks have pointed to a decline in the number and percentage of 1 ½ year old bucks taken just because of the One Buck Restriction rule in effect. My contention is that it has a lot more to do with a trend that had already started before the OBR that was towards being more selective hunters. There is no debate that we as hunters are becoming older, more experienced and are a lot more selective than we used to be. This is happening in EVERY whitetail state, not just Indiana. Here are two charts comparing Tennessee which has a three-buck limit and Indiana who has been operating under a One Buck Restriction for the last 4 seasons. Can anyone tell me why Tennessee is doing better than we are if the One Buck restriction is the god send of an age shift? Tennessee Deer Age Chart  Indiana Deer Age Chart  |
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Post by DEERTRACKS on Jul 13, 2006 11:46:32 GMT -5
I think that the 3 buck limit says it all. Having more buck sightings / hunting hour makes it much easier to pass on the younger fellas before filling your tag.
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Post by lugnutz on Jul 13, 2006 21:20:47 GMT -5
How many doe tags are issued compared to indiana?
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Post by Woody Williams on Jul 13, 2006 21:44:51 GMT -5
How many doe tags are issued compared to indiana? From two for each weapon to 3 a day depending on the part of the state.. Georgia has a similar age shift and they can kill 12 deer statewide with two being bucks. . |
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Post by Bowbo on Jul 13, 2006 21:45:15 GMT -5
I just don't understand where/how they are age-ing these deer here in Indiana. I've turned in my buck each year and NO one has ever bothered to even come out and look at my deer, much less try to age them! I just don't see most of the bucks in Indiana being aged by someone at checkin!
Am I wrong here??
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Post by kevin1 on Jul 14, 2006 5:36:39 GMT -5
I just don't understand where/how they are age-ing these deer here in Indiana. I've turned in my buck each year and NO one has ever bothered to even come out and look at my deer, much less try to age them! I just don't see most of the bucks in Indiana being aged by someone at checkin! Am I wrong here?? I've had the same experience , I could have had a stray dog in my truck for all they knew . As near as I can tell all they really record is the sex . Just wait until we have telecheck , that'll really improve the data ... not . |
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Post by Decatur on Jul 14, 2006 6:00:35 GMT -5
Excellent post Woody! You are good at doing your homework! ;D In fact, I think this one needs stickied so all of our OBR lovers can get a gander at it.
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Post by kyle on Jul 14, 2006 7:56:55 GMT -5
P&Y entries from 2nd quarter, 2006:
Indiana: 95
Tennessee: 4
Keep the one buck rule
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Post by Woody Williams on Jul 14, 2006 8:05:38 GMT -5
P&Y entries from 2nd quarter, 2006: Indiana: 95 Tennessee: 4 Keep the one buck rule Poor indicator.. We are a talking about an age shift, which is what the pro-OBR guys said this was all about. Trophy potential for state to state will vary quite a bit according to genetics and habitat. . |
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Post by 911 on Jul 14, 2006 9:23:06 GMT -5
Shut Up Kyle LOL!!!!!!!!!
Like ive said before around here very little hunting pressure in my County the bucks grow big regardless of the Obr.
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Post by Decatur on Jul 14, 2006 10:51:06 GMT -5
P&Y entries from 2nd quarter, 2006: Indiana: 95 Tennessee: 4 Keep the one buck rule Kyle, not every person wants or even cares about having a P &Y entry. Some of us are happy just to see deer, and are thrilled with every buck, or doe we harvest. Regardless of the OBR or not, there have always been, and will always be trophy bucks around, you just have to apply yourself and hunt hard. How do you explain all of the trophies from the hundred of pre QDM years? To me, Quality Deer Management should mean the largest number of healthy deer the land can support! |
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Post by kyle on Jul 14, 2006 12:45:11 GMT -5
I thought I would give woody a hard time. I like the one buck rule and you guys can have your opinion to. 911 what are you talking about we don't have any big bucks around here  |
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Post by Woody Williams on Jul 14, 2006 14:39:34 GMT -5
I thought I would give woody a hard time. I like the one buck rule and you guys can have your opinion to. 911 what are you talking about we don't have any big bucks around here Ha! You ain't the first..  Now dispute the numbers and percentages of the age shift, not who puts the most in a book. |
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Post by lugnutz on Jul 14, 2006 16:11:07 GMT -5
who cares about age shift? I don't ask a deer his age before i shoot his azz!
;D
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Post by kevin1 on Jul 14, 2006 18:20:29 GMT -5
who cares about age shift? I don't ask a deer his age before i shoot his azz! ;D Can I get an amen to that ? |
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Post by rmc on Jul 14, 2006 22:19:30 GMT -5
The OBR is the best thing that has ever happened for Indianas deer herd. And the best is yet to come.
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Post by deerdude on Jul 15, 2006 6:23:06 GMT -5
im glad we have the obr here, around my neck of the woods we have so many weekend warriors and poachers and tresspassers that if there was a 3buck rule there wouldnt be any bucks left in a short period of time.
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Post by Woody Williams on Jul 15, 2006 6:31:53 GMT -5
im glad we have the obr here, around my neck of the woods we have so many weekend warriors and poachers and tresspassers that if there was a 3buck rule there wouldnt be any bucks left in a short period of time. I don't think poachers and tresspassers pay any attention to any limit rules, do you? The "weekend warriors" are still killing the small bucks no matter.. |
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Post by sportsmanslodge1 on Jul 15, 2006 8:15:17 GMT -5
I don't think poachers and tresspassers pay any attention to any limit rules, do you? You have that right! I like the OBR but I not sure it does much more than transfer some young buck kills from early bow season to later in the year. As far as caring for the age structure, I DO! I think most hunters would prefer their buck to be older and have larger antlers. That will only happen when he makes it through his second season. The bottom line with deer management is that it starts with each one of us deciding whether or not we are going to take the shot. |
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Post by kevin1 on Jul 15, 2006 9:27:31 GMT -5
If you want big bucks stop shooting dinks , it's as simple as that and doesn't require a stupid restrictive law to accomplish .
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