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Post by Hawkeye on Jul 3, 2006 14:10:02 GMT -5
Hi Gooseman , that is a very good idea ,As a matter of fact in my case I offered the farmer a good bit of cash at the time he gave me permission to hunt, and during the season,but he said naw that is not necessary ,just help clean up and do a few odd jobs around the farm,and that will be fine.All of that I did and more. also told me several times how nice it was to have someone he could trust on the farm. also said he would never lease because then he could not control who was on the farm and what they were doing. well so much for that!when the money showed up.
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Post by drs on Jul 3, 2006 14:24:35 GMT -5
Hi Gooseman , that is a very good idea ,As a matter of fact in my case I offered the farmer a good bit of cash at the time he gave me permission to hunt, and during the season,but he said naw that is not necessary ,just help clean up and do a few odd jobs around the farm,and that will be fine.All of that I did and more. also told me several times how nice it was to have someone he could trust on the farm. also said he would never lease because then he could not control who was on the farm and what they were doing. well so much for that!when the money showed up. Just like the old 1974 tune by the O'Jays "For The Love Of Money" For the love of money People will lie Lord, they will cheat For the love of money People don`t care Who they hurt or beat......
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Post by lugnutz on Jul 3, 2006 16:45:12 GMT -5
It just amazes me how people can spend top dollar on their equipment, but cant squeez out a nickel for a place to hunt. A new Mathews bow, ready to hunt, will cost you around 1000$, but the same person won't spend 300$ a person to go in on a lease.
Just doesn't make any sense to me at all.
Lug
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Post by lugnutz on Jul 3, 2006 16:48:13 GMT -5
Hi Gooseman , that is a very good idea ,As a matter of fact in my case I offered the farmer a good bit of cash at the time he gave me permission to hunt, and during the season,but he said naw that is not necessary ,just help clean up and do a few odd jobs around the farm,and that will be fine.All of that I did and more. also told me several times how nice it was to have someone he could trust on the farm. also said he would never lease because then he could not control who was on the farm and what they were doing. well so much for that!when the money showed up. Less than 50$ worth of paper work, and you'd still have a place to hunt. I understand your situation, but hopefully you've learned something from this, and move on. Lug
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Post by drs on Jul 3, 2006 16:59:08 GMT -5
Because after they spend a fortune on equipment (mostly stuff they don't need) there is little money left to lease at todays' prices.
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Post by lugnutz on Jul 3, 2006 17:23:37 GMT -5
Thats why you don't purchase the top of the line equipment. Example: i bought a 300$ Buckmasters bow, less than 200$ more to set up to hunt, which leaves me 500$ for the lease, this year i don't have to purchase anything, which enables me to save for another year of leasing.
Lug
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Post by drs on Jul 4, 2006 6:19:52 GMT -5
Sound like your headed in the right direction, Lug. Lot & Lots of would-be Hunters make the mistake of buying stuff they don't need, thus increasing the cost of hunting for themselves.
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Post by solohunter on Jul 4, 2006 8:06:14 GMT -5
My annual hunting budget is 200 dollars. Solohunter
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Post by Hawkeye on Jul 4, 2006 9:57:35 GMT -5
My annual hunting budget is 200 dollars. Solohunter Wow,how do you do that, I spend several hundred dollars in Gas alone.
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Post by RiverJim on Jul 4, 2006 10:00:24 GMT -5
Well I guess we could look at it like this............ when areas get over run with deer folks will be begging us to come and hunt cause the big antler hunters won't shoot does! .............if ya'll don't mind hunting in somebodys yard that is.
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Post by drs on Jul 4, 2006 10:14:08 GMT -5
Well I guess we could look at it like this............ when areas get over run with deer folks will be begging us to come and hunt cause the big antler hunters won't shoot does! .............if ya'll don't mind hunting in somebodys yard that is. That's about the extent of it.
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Post by drs on Jul 4, 2006 10:15:56 GMT -5
My annual hunting budget is 200 dollars. Solohunter Wow,how do you do that, I spend several hundred dollars in Gas alone. I spent well under $400 on my Hunting in KY. Including License & Tags.
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Post by indianagooseman on Jul 4, 2006 10:23:29 GMT -5
Well I guess we could look at it like this............ when areas get over run with deer folks will be begging us to come and hunt cause the big antler hunters won't shoot does! .............if ya'll don't mind hunting in somebodys yard that is. I would'nt mind a bit, in fact one of my favorite hunting spots sits between a couple different subdivisions and a factory.
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Post by steiny on Jul 4, 2006 11:52:32 GMT -5
It's all about "priorities" boys. If hunting is truly a big, important part of your life, then you'll do whatever it takes to keep on hunting.
It shocks me how people gripe and moan when it comes time to shell out a few bucks for hunting. Any other recreational activity we spend time at; golf, fishing, bowling, attending sports games or concerts, dining out, watching movies, boating, racing, etc. all cost money. Why should hunting be any different?
Heck, we're all sitting here paying $XX per month for internet service, and pecking away on an $XXX computer. Those expenses alone would go a long way towards paying for a lease, help towards land purchase, going on an outfitted hunt, or whatever.
Here is another idea guys. Locking up some land may not always be the best answer for everyone, especially those with limited time off work. Don't rule out going somewhere on an outfitted hunt or two each year. In many cases it might cost less than leasing or buying ground. Heck of a bunch of fun too.
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Post by drs on Jul 4, 2006 12:50:32 GMT -5
You make a very good point here, steiny!
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Post by woodmaster on Jul 4, 2006 15:47:00 GMT -5
Well I guess we could look at it like this............ when areas get over run with deer folks will be begging us to come and hunt cause the big antler hunters won't shoot does! .............if ya'll don't mind hunting in somebodys yard that is. WOW.......Is it illegal for big antler hunters to shoot does?....or are you just assuming that everyone who waits for a big buck won't kill some does?
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Post by solohunter on Jul 4, 2006 16:15:54 GMT -5
My annual hunting budget is 200 dollars. Solohunter Wow,how do you do that, I spend several hundred dollars in Gas alone. I live on the property I hunt and other property is less than a mile away. I buy things on clearance at the end of the year. Landowner exemption. I do all my own processing also. Solohunter
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Post by drs on Jul 4, 2006 17:24:47 GMT -5
I also hunt on my own property & process my own Deer.
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Post by whiteoak on Jul 6, 2006 8:30:50 GMT -5
I make my lease payment every year by selling "junk" on Ebay. I'm killing two birds with one stone. My wife is happy that I'm cleaning up the place and she's not complaining about my expensive habit. It's amazing what some of them old bows and other stuff that you have had laying around for several years is worth.
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Post by kevin1 on Jul 6, 2006 9:22:50 GMT -5
Man I do love the "jump on the bandwagon" crowd . Not !
Here's a scenario: A) Farmer Brown allows you to hunt his land for no money . B) In an effort to maintain this goodwill , and hopefully keep your access as leasing begins to come your way , you offer him a few hundred to lease . He agrees . C) Next year a guy Farmer Brown doesn't know offers him 10X what you did last year and asks to lease . Farmer Brown agrees . D) You lose your access to the higher bidder and the snowball starts rolling .
The only good part there is that Farmer Brown will now be able to make a little extra coin , and as the other local farmers begin to lease their land the bidding wars drive up the prices until the locals can no longer afford them , pay even more the next year , or find another hobby . No matter how many times I hear the pro-leasing side I always here the same lame azzed refrain ,"You have to pay to play ." Horse feathers ! If nobody offered to lease , or at least refused to pay exhorbitant rates , leasing would be under control . But that isn't how it is , in the race to bag yet another set of bragging rights the few would sacrifice the wants of the many for their own gain . Another head on the wall only leads to wanting a bigger one , and bullsheit like that is what's killing hunting . No wonder kids prefer video games these days , watching their parents kill their own hobby with greed probably disgusts them .
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