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Post by raporter1 on Sept 16, 2006 10:49:35 GMT -5
What other part of the state can you find properties like this? Doesn't matter where it is we just need to find a way to get all this land we can for the future.
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Post by Woody Williams on Oct 7, 2006 10:28:32 GMT -5
The latest scuttlebutt is that Thompson Center is now interested in leasing this property.
Not sure why they would want it when they have a 12,000 acre big buck honey hole in Kentucky.
It's bad enough with private leasing but when big corporations get in the act to secure hunting ground for their hired hunters and customers we will all start to lose BIG TIME.
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Post by DUCKMASTER1 on Nov 15, 2006 17:35:13 GMT -5
From what I heard from some reliable sources. The guy who owns Bucks and Jakes was going to lease the land, wanted the local CO's to patrol the area, they turned him down. I do not know about the new figure interested in this property, but the state needs to step in and say if you do not lease the land to the state, then you will pay severe taxes on the land! Plain and simple, it is not DNR , sure they would love it, but they need the backing from the state . If we bug the state, they may put some pressure on the coal company.
This would be a great piece of land for the hunters down here, but they seem to buy the land from up north, and forget about us down here in the southern part of the state.
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Post by whiteoak on Jan 11, 2007 20:36:22 GMT -5
After Glendale I doubt that Peabody will help the State out any in the future.
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Post by Ahawkeye on Jan 11, 2007 22:21:29 GMT -5
White oak I'm sure the state paid for all the drilling, so peabody didn't pay a dime. If they wanted to get out of that land they'd probably get a pretty big kick back from the state or Feds, I figure they are probably going to go back in there some day and look for more coal. My father used to work for a coal company he says sometimes if they know coal is in there they will wait for technolligy to "catch up" to coal that's burried REAL deep. That's what I figure, why would they hang on to this land other than maybe having to spend the money to reclaim it if they sell? If Indiana wanted to buy it and Peabody wanted to sell I think they'd come up with something.
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Post by Woody Williams on Jan 11, 2007 22:27:22 GMT -5
A couple years ago there was hot rumor that Peabody was going to restrip the Warrick county ground because they do have better technology and there was deeper coal there.
I haven't heard anything on that lately though.
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Post by whiteoak on Jan 15, 2007 12:46:35 GMT -5
White oak I'm sure the state paid for all the drilling, so peabody didn't pay a dime. If they wanted to get out of that land they'd probably get a pretty big kick back from the state or Feds, I figure they are probably going to go back in there some day and look for more coal. My father used to work for a coal company he says sometimes if they know coal is in there they will wait for technolligy to "catch up" to coal that's burried REAL deep. That's what I figure, why would they hang on to this land other than maybe having to spend the money to reclaim it if they sell? If Indiana wanted to buy it and Peabody wanted to sell I think they'd come up with something. I would be willing gto bet that the state didn't pay a dime for the test drilling. When the Innerlake land sold it averaged around 1000.00 an acre, which is about the same as the Peabody ground. Alot of this ground has been resold several times for even more money after it was broken up into smaller plots , I'm afraid we are going to start seeing for sale signs and the state will not get any of it for public use. |
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Post by whiteoak on Jan 15, 2007 12:52:41 GMT -5
A couple years ago there was hot rumor that Peabody was going to restrip the Warrick county ground because they do have better technology and there was deeper coal there. I haven't heard anything on that lately though. . They have went back and mined some of the old stripped mined areas in Pike county. Triad has started a mine just East of my house that had already been mined years ago that Peabody owned |
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Post by Ahawkeye on Jan 16, 2007 17:24:20 GMT -5
What makes you think the state didn't pay for anything? Surely if Peabody wasn't sure if they were going to get anything out of this they wouldn't sink any mone into drilling, the state held the cards on the glendale land if they wanted to sell it they'd probably have to prove it had coal. I think the stste of Indiana has a better relationship with coal companies than you think. The state wants them to do business here so there going to make it as easy on them as possible. When a coal mine wants to sell land they will and if the state has the cash they'll buy it. It's up to us, to vote the right guy in, to figure out how to get the state the money. I'll bet if the worick co land goes for sale the state may put their hat in the ring. If we were to lose glendale to mining whos to say what land would come available for us? I doubt it would be the worrick Co land if Peabody still wants to go in and mine more. JMHO
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Post by whiteoak on Jan 17, 2007 5:26:29 GMT -5
What makes you think the state didn't pay for anything? Surely if Peabody wasn't sure if they were going to get anything out of this they wouldn't sink any mone into drilling, the state held the cards on the glendale land if they wanted to sell it they'd probably have to prove it had coal. I think the stste of Indiana has a better relationship with coal companies than you think. The state wants them to do business here so there going to make it as easy on them as possible. When a coal mine wants to sell land they will and if the state has the cash they'll buy it. It's up to us, to vote the right guy in, to figure out how to get the state the money. I'll bet if the worick co land goes for sale the state may put their hat in the ring. If we were to lose glendale to mining whos to say what land would come available for us? I doubt it would be the worrick Co land if Peabody still wants to go in and mine more. JMHO Last year the Innerlake Foundation sold 6000 acers of Warrick and Pike county ground that was prime hunting ground and the state never placed a bid on any of it. The coal mines I have worked at contract out test drilling on ground that they are interested in mining and they have always paid the bill for it. I can't say for sure that Glendale was done this way, but if it was the mine I work for they would have paid to have it tested. |
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Post by beehunter on Feb 24, 2007 13:00:46 GMT -5
We have not been able to hunt any of Peabodys ground in Greene or Sullivan counties for about 4 or 5 years, might as well get used to it.
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Post by mullis56 on Apr 9, 2007 20:36:57 GMT -5
We have not been able to hunt any of Peabodys ground in Greene or Sullivan counties for about 4 or 5 years, might as well get used to it. Yes this is true! The game wardens patrol it like public land then they hunt it! They won't hunt 263 acres of it anymore ;D That is all that I have to say about that. |
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Post by mullis56 on Apr 9, 2007 20:38:49 GMT -5
I talked with the real estate manager for Peabody, and the reason there isn't anymore hunting is the thousands upon thousands of dollars of work that is going to have to be done to fix ruts, etc., from people off roading along with un-safe hunting. It is simple a FEW idiots ruined for all.......
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Post by JohnSmiles on Apr 9, 2007 21:05:46 GMT -5
There were a ton of lakes left after Peabody left the Universal area just north of Terre Haute.
One of them, a very large and productive lake, was even marked 'public lake' with state bass limits posted, etc.
Somehow, much of the land, including the 'public' lake, all of a sudden was private.
And fenced.
And several new houses were built, and property sold to a 'select few' for almost nothing.
Peabody is known for repaying 'favors' to politicians.
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Post by lugnutz on Apr 13, 2007 23:22:30 GMT -5
didn't innerlake open up for some, if not all of muzzy season this past year?
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Post by steveb on May 14, 2007 15:09:03 GMT -5
John Prine was right, if you know what I mean. Yep, Mr Peabody's coal train done hauled it away.(Paradise) When I was a child, my family would travel,down to Western Ky were Paradise lay......I see we have a few Prine fans here.  |
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Post by mullis56 on May 17, 2007 12:42:39 GMT -5
property sold to a 'select few' for almost nothing.
Peabody is known for repaying 'favors' to politicians.[/quote]
I purchased some and I'm not a politician.......and I hate to say it, it was more then almost nothing.........so your post is untrue. Our property will be fenced and will be patroled by CO's, and as if you owned some you'd do the same thing too......
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Post by JohnSmiles on May 17, 2007 15:40:43 GMT -5
I fixed your quote simply to make it easier to follow. property sold to a 'select few' for almost nothing. Peabody is known for repaying 'favors' to politicians.
I purchased some and I'm not a politician.......and I hate to say it, it was more then almost nothing.........so your post is untrue. Our property will be fenced and will be patroled by CO's, and as if you owned some you'd do the same thing too......I never said there was anything WRONG with buying or fencing property, and calling me a liar and responding as if I HAD said that was uncalled for. Just exactly what does anything you did or did NOT do have to do with my post in any way? Here is my entire post: There were a ton of lakes left after Peabody left the Universal area just north of Terre Haute.
One of them, a very large and productive lake, was even marked 'public lake' with state bass limits posted, etc.
Somehow, much of the land, including the 'public' lake, all of a sudden was private.
And fenced.
And several new houses were built, and property sold to a 'select few' for almost nothing.
Peabody is known for repaying 'favors' to politicians. Now, you tell me what part of that post was a lie. And how anything you bought from them has any bearing on the favors they have done for countless others. I know many people who live in that area, and there were a ton of 'favors' done. The lake that was posted as a state fishing area suddenly becoming fenced in, private property overnight is one I would really like to hear explained. A great many favors were done, and a bridge was even torn out and replaced by a wooden 'memorial' bridge on Universal road.  Also, I am betting you got a very sweet deal indeed on that 253 acres, or you would not have bought it in the first place. We are talking over 3/4 of a million dollars worth of land if only sold for $3,000.00 an acre. I highly doubt you paid anywhere near that amount. |
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Post by mullis56 on May 18, 2007 20:35:26 GMT -5
I fixed your quote simply to make it easier to follow.
I purchased some and I'm not a politician.......and I hate to say it, it was more then almost nothing.........so your post is untrue. Our property will be fenced and will be patroled by CO's, and as if you owned some you'd do the same thing too......I never said there was anything WRONG with buying or fencing property, and calling me a liar and responding as if I HAD said that was uncalled for. Just exactly what does anything you did or did NOT do have to do with my post in any way? Here is my entire post: There were a ton of lakes left after Peabody left the Universal area just north of Terre Haute.
One of them, a very large and productive lake, was even marked 'public lake' with state bass limits posted, etc.
Somehow, much of the land, including the 'public' lake, all of a sudden was private.
And fenced.
And several new houses were built, and property sold to a 'select few' for almost nothing.
Peabody is known for repaying 'favors' to politicians. Now, you tell me what part of that post was a lie. And how anything you bought from them has any bearing on the favors they have done for countless others. I know many people who live in that area, and there were a ton of 'favors' done. The lake that was posted as a state fishing area suddenly becoming fenced in, private property overnight is one I would really like to hear explained. A great many favors were done, and a bridge was even torn out and replaced by a wooden 'memorial' bridge on Universal road. Also, I am betting you got a very sweet deal indeed on that 253 acres, or you would not have bought it in the first place. We are talking over 3/4 of a million dollars worth of land if only sold for $3,000.00 an acre. I highly doubt you paid anywhere near that amount. Thanks for fixing my mess up's I not perfect. I bet you'd be surprised what I paid. I paid $800 an acre ;D BTW - it was a payoff as I work for IDEM, did I say that.  It is all about who you know. My family is buying the 642 acres that is left at this location, and they are getting even a better deal ;D Bottom line is that I will kill a buck of a lifetime in the next 2 seasons is my guess, since every outlaw that is caught will be prosecuted and the CO will be watching this for me! Plus the fact that there aren't hunters killing every buck that walks by.... You got me, I'm guilty of accepting a payoff. Sorry, to say that these sweatheart deals are all payoffs, and I'm apart of it. Just like the 1100 acres across the street that was sold last year it is Becky Skillman's husband and brother in law who purchased it. Now over half of it is for sale for $4000/acre. Nearly a 450% increase in less then a year! Wow, it really pays to know folks! People that aren't fortunate enough or more importantly smart enough to get their own piece of property will end up not hunting some day. Said to say, but the only exception would be public. I'm sick and tired of having private land to hunt and having gun hunters ruin the herd, and not scout all year and show up opening morning. I bow hunt and gun hunt, but I scout and spend my time in the woods, I can't enjoy things with people I don't trust so I made a decision that I'm a hunter and I'm going to hunt and in order to do that in the fashion I prefer I purchased my own piece of heaven......knowing that in the future years it is going to continue to get tougher and tougher. Now guys like you who hear rumors and are jealous start falsifiying things and getting  ed off at others which is un-called for. I'm not 30 yet, and I made the decision that I will have a place to hunt and not sit on here and about things....I just don't like folks like you making stuff up and saying untrue things. Your post is just, well not true. Peabody, allows the state to lease things as part of the bonding that takes place with mining I bet you don't know the first thing about the whole processes of mining or a company mining? Minnehawa is a coal mine area that is leased to the state, still bonded. I know this from working for IDEM!! Good luck, and just be unhappy with Peabody, but I like them!!! |
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Post by JohnSmiles on May 18, 2007 22:54:49 GMT -5
I fixed your quote simply to make it easier to follow. I never said there was anything WRONG with buying or fencing property, and calling me a liar and responding as if I HAD said that was uncalled for. Just exactly what does anything you did or did NOT do have to do with my post in any way? Here is my entire post: Now, you tell me what part of that post was a lie. And how anything you bought from them has any bearing on the favors they have done for countless others. I know many people who live in that area, and there were a ton of 'favors' done. The lake that was posted as a state fishing area suddenly becoming fenced in, private property overnight is one I would really like to hear explained. A great many favors were done, and a bridge was even torn out and replaced by a wooden 'memorial' bridge on Universal road. Also, I am betting you got a very sweet deal indeed on that 253 acres, or you would not have bought it in the first place. We are talking over 3/4 of a million dollars worth of land if only sold for $3,000.00 an acre. I highly doubt you paid anywhere near that amount. Thanks for fixing my mess up's I not perfect. I bet you'd be surprised what I paid. I paid $800 an acre ;D BTW - it was a payoff as I work for IDEM, did I say that. It is all about who you know. My family is buying the 642 acres that is left at this location, and they are getting even a better deal ;D Bottom line is that I will kill a buck of a lifetime in the next 2 seasons is my guess, since every outlaw that is caught will be prosecuted and the CO will be watching this for me! Plus the fact that there aren't hunters killing every buck that walks by.... You got me, I'm guilty of accepting a payoff. Sorry, to say that these sweatheart deals are all payoffs, and I'm apart of it. Just like the 1100 acres across the street that was sold last year it is Becky Skillman's husband and brother in law who purchased it. Now over half of it is for sale for $4000/acre. Nearly a 450% increase in less then a year! Wow, it really pays to know folks!People that aren't fortunate enough or more importantly smart enough to get their own piece of property will end up not hunting some day. Said to say, but the only exception would be public. I'm sick and tired of having private land to hunt and having gun hunters ruin the herd, and not scout all year and show up opening morning. I bow hunt and gun hunt, but I scout and spend my time in the woods, I can't enjoy things with people I don't trust so I made a decision that I'm a hunter and I'm going to hunt and in order to do that in the fashion I prefer I purchased my own piece of heaven......knowing that in the future years it is going to continue to get tougher and tougher. Now guys like you who hear rumors and are jealous start falsifiying things and getting whized off at others which is un-called for. I'm not 30 yet, and I made the decision that I will have a place to hunt and not sit on here and ***** about things....I just don't like folks like you making stuff up and saying untrue things. Your post is just, well not true. Peabody, allows the state to lease things as part of the bonding that takes place with mining I bet you don't know the first thing about the whole processes of mining or a company mining? Minnehawa is a coal mine area that is leased to the state, still bonded. I know this from working for IDEM!! Good luck, and just be unhappy with Peabody, but I like them!!! You know, I could go to great lengths here, but I think everything you just admitted to, says it far better than anything I could add. You ARE the problem in America today. And you act as if what you do is ok. |
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It is all about who you know. My family is buying the 642 acres that is left at this location, and they are getting even a better deal ;D Bottom line is that I will kill a buck of a lifetime in the next 2 seasons is my guess, since every outlaw that is caught will be prosecuted and the CO will be watching this for me! Plus the fact that there aren't hunters killing every buck that walks by....