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Post by greghopper on May 30, 2020 6:24:37 GMT -5
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Post by welder on May 30, 2020 6:44:42 GMT -5
Both sides of this situation are nothing short of appalling. The death of a restrained human being and then people destroying other people's lives in the name of protest?!? God help us all.
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Post by moose1am on May 30, 2020 7:26:18 GMT -5
Well, it makes for interesting TV but that's the only thing about it that helps to break the boredom I have right now. The killing of another black man is an outrage. What did he do to deserve to die on the streets without a trial? They claim he passed a fake $20 bill in a store. The store clerk or owner called the police. Was Floyd resisting arrest or on drugs? From the short videos that I have seen, I can't tell if he was on drugs. I didn't see him resisting either. But the video was short in time and it did not show the entire situation which is troubling to me. Even if the police were wrong it's up to the justice department and the courts to straighten this all out. Huge crowds of protesters really have me ed off. Seeing people disrupting traffic on freeways and smashing windows out on vehicles owned by people who has nothing to do with Floyds death is another thing that makes me mad. And burning down a police station was the last straw for me. IMHO the police should have defended the police station with real bullets. That is what it's going to take to stop this violence. The chaos is not just about Floyd's death. It's about the entire culture that we have right now. Poverty and joblessness and the long lockdown and people are sick and tired of everything going on. The Governor of Minnesota should have activated the National Guard and the Mayor should have directed his police to work overtime and keep the peace. People when in large crowds get embolden and some start acting like animals. They need to be forced to comply with the law. I hope after this is all over those people who set those fires are prosecuted and put in prison. Insurrection Act of 1807 Atlanta mayor to vandalizing protesters: 'This is not a protest ... this is chaos'
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Post by firstwd on May 30, 2020 8:41:23 GMT -5
When someone can adequately explain what breaking into and robbing a jewelry store in Indianapolis has to do with a death of a man in Minneapolis I'll start listening to what the "protesters" have to say.
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Post by greghopper on May 30, 2020 9:08:48 GMT -5
I can’t wait for the Secret Service to deploy the sonic wave weapon on these idiots. If you see a parabolic device it’s time to dance!
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Post by featherduster on May 30, 2020 9:56:07 GMT -5
The BIG question is...........are you stocked up on toilet paper???
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Post by welder on May 30, 2020 11:09:29 GMT -5
The BIG question is...........are you stocked up on toilet paper??? No worries, plenty of leaves now! LOL!
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Post by moose1am on May 30, 2020 12:52:21 GMT -5
I can’t wait for the Secret Service to deploy the sonic wave weapon on these idiots. If you see a parabolic device it’s time to dance! I saw some Humvees with what looked like those sonic devices on top. That was in Minneapolis yesterday when their National Guard showed up. But the NG left and didn't really do anything. I was expecting them to turn on those sonic devices and disperse the crowds. I guess I will have to wait until Trump sends in the 101st to see those sonic devices deployed. Those and the other devices that make your skin get really hot when they focus some type of rays at people. I just makes me so mad when I see people destroying property and disrespecting the police and getting right up in the policeman's face and yelling obesities'. I just wanted to see the police start swinging some Billy clubs/night sticks at those protesters like they did in the 1960. That or bring out the dogs and the fire hoses. They need to deploy a big truck with about 2000 gallons of water and a water canon that can spray about 500 gallons per minute and knock people off their feet.
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Post by Woody Williams on May 30, 2020 13:30:26 GMT -5
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Post by dbd870 on May 30, 2020 15:41:41 GMT -5
When someone can adequately explain what breaking into and robbing a jewelry store in Indianapolis has to do with a death of a man in Minneapolis I'll start listening to what the "protesters" have to say. Exactly - no excuse!
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Post by medic22 on May 30, 2020 16:53:44 GMT -5
Prosecutors better have their ducks in a row on this one or its gonna be LA riots 10 fold.
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Post by mgderf on May 30, 2020 17:09:33 GMT -5
The people most are seeing on the news are NOT protestors. They are common criminals, thugs, thieves, and the like. The George Floyd story is being used as an excuse to loot and pillage, then to blame it all on "society".
I would bet, if asked, the majority of those "protestors" can't even come up with George Floyds name, at least not without looking at a poster nearby.
Nope. No respect for them or their "cause". I have no idea what transpired during that altercation because I wasn't there. I've only seen what everyone else has seen on the news. From what I saw, I can NOT come up with a feasible situation where the knee to the back of the neck would be warranted.
It is my opinion, and only my opinion, that George Floyd was murdered by the officer that knelt on his neck. That fact notwithstanding, there is no excuse for the mob mentality, destruction of private or public property, and anyone involved in the same should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
Minneapolis will be years trying to overcome this heartbreak, and the fools destroying their own city are only exacerbating the problem.
I say it again, they are NOT protestors, just common criminals that need to be dealt with as such.
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Post by Ahawkeye on May 30, 2020 21:19:42 GMT -5
The people most are seeing on the news are NOT protestors. They are common criminals, thugs, thieves, and the like. The George Floyd story is being used as an excuse to loot and pillage, then to blame it all on "society". I would bet, if asked, the majority of those "protestors" can't even come up with George Floyds name, at least not without looking at a poster nearby. Nope. No respect for them or their "cause". I have no idea what transpired during that altercation because I wasn't there. I've only seen what everyone else has seen on the news. From what I saw, I can NOT come up with a feasible situation where the knee to the back of the neck would be warranted. It is my opinion, and only my opinion, that George Floyd was murdered by the officer that knelt on his neck. That fact notwithstanding, there is no excuse for the mob mentality, destruction of private or public property, and anyone involved in the same should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Minneapolis will be years trying to overcome this heartbreak, and the fools destroying their own city are only exacerbating the problem. I say it again, they are NOT protestors, just common criminals that need to be dealt with as such. The first section of this post is absolutely spot on, this is almost word for word what I told my wife in a conversation yesterday. Not that I disagree with the rest of the post but it was ironic what you wrote in the first few lines here.
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Post by greyhair on May 30, 2020 22:40:18 GMT -5
The protesters have a right to raise hell non-violently over this issue, all day and night if they want.
But whenever this happens, common criminals come out of the woodwork and use the situation for cover to loot and burn. I see that some on the left are saying that white supremacists are involved, and some on the right are saying that Antifa is involved etc.
I doubt either is very involved, although there are probably a few agitators in the mix. The sad fact is that the inner cities are riddled with gangs, crime, poverty, broken homes, lousy education, multi-generational dependency on public assistance, and a deeply embedded culture of disrespect for law and authority. Powder kegs waiting for a match. The condition exists in both Republican and Democrat-led cities.
If you picked somebody with a molotov cocktail in their hand out of the crowd and asked them to name the three branches of government, or who was President before Ronald Reagan, or if Puerto Rico was a country, they probably would not know.
I don't know what the answer is in the long term. In the short term, this looting, shooting and burning has to be stopped though. I am old enough to remember tanks on the streets of Detroit in the 60's.
I feel blessed to live out in the sticks
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Post by greghopper on May 31, 2020 5:25:01 GMT -5
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Post by beermaker on May 31, 2020 5:47:10 GMT -5
What happened in Louisville Friday night was not "a protest that turned violent." It was straight-up criminal activity, probable organized and planned. Idiots were using hammers to break business windows. Did they just happen upon a supply of hammers and got mad? No, it was pre-meditated. I read interviews with a few restaurant owners that were just recently allowed to reopen, but now will have more down time and repair cost.
One of the local news reporters got shot with a pepper ball (not sure what that is) by a police officer. Of course, the drama began immediately. What they are not reporting is the fact that the news crew was warned several times that the particular area was being cleared with no exceptions. They wouldn't leave, so they were given some motivation.
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Post by treetop on May 31, 2020 7:33:02 GMT -5
When someone can adequately explain what breaking into and robbing a jewelry store in Indianapolis has to do with a death of a man in Minneapolis I'll start listening to what the "protesters" have to say. Exactly - no excuse! IMHO they lost a big share of the cause and respect when this happens
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Post by jjas on May 31, 2020 7:55:06 GMT -5
What happened in Louisville Friday night was not "a protest that turned violent." It was straight-up criminal activity, probable organized and planned. Idiots were using hammers to break business windows. Did they just happen upon a supply of hammers and got mad? No, it was pre-meditated. I read interviews with a few restaurant owners that were just recently allowed to reopen, but now will have more down time and repair cost. One of the local news reporters got shot with a pepper ball (not sure what that is) by a police officer. Of course, the drama began immediately. What they are not reporting is the fact that the news crew was warned several times that the particular area was being cleared with no exceptions. They wouldn't leave, so they were given some motivation. I don't know why the Mayor of Louisville and the Governor of Kentucky didn't institute a curfew and call the National Guard in on Friday instead of allowing the burning and looting to continue after Thursday's debacle. I guess it's a case of "better late than never" to do so on Saturday, but I would imagine that's going to be a hard sell to the store owner's whose property was destroyed Friday night.
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Post by moose1am on May 31, 2020 8:12:33 GMT -5
We have the right to assemble and to peacefully assemble and to petition for redress. We do not have the right to revolt unless you win the revolution and then take control. In that case you can do what you want as you are in control. The US Government has been putting down revolts ever since the Whiskey Rebellion. IMHO the Governors did not act with enough force and timely enough. We have a rebellion on our hands and if force is not used it will just continue to build and get worse. I was watching Philadelphia burn last night. SMH. this is getting way out of hand. People are mad and it's not just about the Floyd guy. Here in Evansville, IN we had over 200 protestors standing face to face with the Evansville Police in front of our Civic Center. There times are hard on everyone and people are so frustrated by all that is going on. I too am so thankful that I live out in the country which is now the suburbs. It use to be a lot quieter where I am now. We have way too many people these days.
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Post by treetop on May 31, 2020 8:46:29 GMT -5
They tore up Fort Wayne again last night I just don’t understand how they think this is a good thing. Its horrible a lot of these stores and Restaurants just got back open now they have to remodel due to the damage theses idiots caused not to mention all the tax dollars it will cost to fix up all the damage they have done.
What I don’t get either is how the protesters say the cops are not giving warning and just throwing tear gas at them the clips I’ve seen you can hear them
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