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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2013 10:22:07 GMT -5
Wild hogs are a blast to hunt. Most hunters pay for the privilige to do so. They eat as good as any deer you can eat.
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Post by dadfsr on Apr 2, 2013 10:26:31 GMT -5
Wild hogs are a blast to hunt. Most hunters pay for the privilige to do so. They eat as good as any deer you can eat. Yes they are a blast to hunt and eat....but I will NEVER pay to hunt one!!! A little legwork and research, just like with free range deer, will give a hunter plenty of game to hunt.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2013 10:49:49 GMT -5
That's cause just a little bit of fun is enough for you. Most guys I know, including myself like more of it. You can research all you want and not find a better place than the areas in So. Ga. that charge as little as $100 a day. Guys spend that much to play 18 holes a lot of places.
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Post by bullwinkle on Apr 2, 2013 11:10:29 GMT -5
Some on here need Banned fo what they try to sell on a hunting site ![::)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/eyesroll.png) Least it isn't BS that your trying to unload. Can you name one state that has had their deer herd devasted by CWD? You can't because it hasn't happened and won't. timex, the stuff that you post and your mentality along with like-mainded thinkers is the biggest threat to hunting in this country. In fact it is not even in your best interest. Your attitude on CWD and TB is niave at best at worse it is ignorant. CWD in this state would hurt public deer hunting, it would cost the state revenue, cost taxpayers, hurt economies, and damage the DNR's finances to manage public and private lands they oversee. Even though your interest are not that of the average hunter, how harmfull would a disease outbreak be on land that you control access and profit from? Who wants to pay to hunt diseased animals? Who wants to eat them? What will it do to the population of deer on that land. Do agencies go in and kill animals to control the spread? What does it do for the revenue that you make off of the publics resource?
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Post by dadfsr on Apr 2, 2013 11:18:05 GMT -5
That's cause just a little bit of fun is enough for you. Most guys I know, including myself like more of it. You can research all you want and not find a better place than the areas in So. Ga. that charge as little as $100 a day. Guys spend that much to play 18 holes a lot of places. Go ahead and go for that instant gratification...that's what it's all about now isn't it? Something was said about the prostitution of hunting awhile back-this is just another perfect example of it! Oh yeah you somehow didn't mention the Savannah Wildlife Refuge in northern Georgia that has hogs out the wazoo and all it takes is a hunting permit and license during the right season....beholden to nobody while you hunt....but there's that instant gratification thing again isn't there ![::)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/eyesroll.png) I have absolutely no shame in how I hunt and the way I hunt.
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Post by raporter on Apr 2, 2013 12:02:23 GMT -5
I would love to know how the Asian carp benifits the sportsman? Bowhunting them? That would be a small thing compared to the damage they are doing to our native fish.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2013 13:41:28 GMT -5
I'd guess that they have generated a lot more income to game agencies to date by sportsmen than a lot of other species have. Haven't seen any game fish "damaged" by them. Bigheads and Asians also eat fairly well. Of course some people will eat anything.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2013 13:49:04 GMT -5
[ timex, the stuff that you post and your mentality along with like-mainded thinkers is the biggest threat to hunting in this country. In fact it is not even in your best interest. Your attitude on CWD and TB is niave at best at worse it is ignorant. CWD in this state would hurt public deer hunting, it would cost the state revenue, cost taxpayers, hurt economies, and damage the DNR's finances to manage public and private lands they oversee. Even though your interest are not that of the average hunter, how harmfull would a disease outbreak be on land that you control access and profit from? Who wants to pay to hunt diseased animals? Who wants to eat them? What will it do to the population of deer on that land. Do agencies go in and kill animals to control the spread? What does it do for the revenue that you make off of the publics resource? Well, there are several CWD positive states that sell completely out of cervid licenses each and every year. CWD has not cost them any money. And they don't spend $$$$ on useless CWD testing of a few hundres samples out of the thousands killed each year, I believe most experts agree the route that Wis. went on the eradication was a misguided adventure. The bill in question is going to allow 5 preserves to stay in operation. There are 400+ that hold cervids are aren't even being discussed. Do you think CWD will only hit the 5 and stay away from the other 395?
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Post by throbak on Apr 2, 2013 14:01:14 GMT -5
Any one Remember the Gong Show???
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2013 14:11:48 GMT -5
I can't say I do, but do remember Pinocchio. You guys want to fight the well intrenched game farmers, it's not going to be successful by telling lies and myth about CWD. Stick to the facts.
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Post by daneowner on Apr 2, 2013 14:31:31 GMT -5
I can't say I do, but do remember Pinocchio. You guys want to fight the well intrenched game farmers, it's not going to be successful by telling lies and myth about CWD. Stick to the facts. I don't see where the so called game farmers are well entrenched in Indiana, what I see, at least on this forum is the FACT that all but "one" wants to make sure they "don't become entrenched.
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Post by throbak on Apr 2, 2013 15:08:18 GMT -5
The audience had heard enough Chuck Barris Hit the Gong and you were thrown out ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png)
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Post by tenring on Apr 2, 2013 15:49:57 GMT -5
Is someone planning on a deer killing business in the near future ?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2013 16:12:57 GMT -5
I used to p and moan just like you 3 are doing and spent many days, time and money trying to stop game farming in Ky. Argued a bunch with Rodney and the others. Ended up seeing the light. Most of the hunters are not against preserve hunting and will not even send a simple email to a legislator for the cause. You can look and see how much money the DFers gave in political donations. It wasn't much but more than what they got from the sportsmen. GFers nationwide have more than enough clout to stay in business, the best you can hope for is a workable compromise. If you go for all or nothing, you'll end up with nothing. Watch and see. I'd be willing to bet most on here never made one single phone call to a legislator on this issue. That's why you'll lose on this one.
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Post by daneowner on Apr 2, 2013 16:34:58 GMT -5
Is someone planning on a deer killing business in the near future ? Was kind of wondering the same thing!
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Post by hornharvester on Apr 2, 2013 16:46:27 GMT -5
The audience had heard enough Chuck Barris Hit the Gong and you were thrown out ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png) GONG....!!! If I remember right ol Chuck was a spy and double agent......hmmmm. h.h.
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Post by jjas on Apr 2, 2013 17:00:42 GMT -5
There wouldn't be game farms and shooting preserves if there wasn't a market for them.
Deer hunter's have just become obsessed with killing big bucks over the last 20-30 years and pen hunting and deer farms are the next step up the ladder for many deer hunters insatiable desire to wrap their hands around a big buck's antlers.
If you can't grow a big buck on your own land (or lease), haven't been able to twist the DNR's arm to manage the herd "your" way, have given up killing that big buck on public ground, or maybe you just want to kill multiple big bucks every year, then you can go to a preserve, order up and kill a big ole "checkbook buck".....
Like I said @ the beginning of this post....If there wasn't a market for it, we wouldn't even be having this discussion....
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Post by bullwinkle on Apr 2, 2013 17:56:31 GMT -5
There wouldn't be game farms and shooting preserves if there wasn't a market for them. Like I said @ the beginning of this post....If there wasn't a market for it, we wouldn't even be having this discussion.... There is a market for child prostitution too. Should society accept everything that is market driven?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2013 18:12:54 GMT -5
There wouldn't be game farms and shooting preserves if there wasn't a market for them. Like I said @ the beginning of this post....If there wasn't a market for it, we wouldn't even be having this discussion.... There is a market for child prostitution too. Should society accept everything that is market driven? Big difference, one is against the law, one isn't.
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Post by bullwinkle on Apr 2, 2013 18:18:44 GMT -5
• CWD has been found in Wisconsin. Research has projected that the presence of CWD in Wisconsin contributed to a 10 to 20% decline in the hunter-days and a decline in spending on deer hunting of between $48 million and $96 million (Bishop).
An outbreak of CMD in Tennessee would cause an estimated $46.3 million decline in direct total industry output and a loss of 892 jobs. When the direct effects are combined with effects from decreased purchases from supplying industries and service providers and If CWD were to occur in Tennessee, it is likely that a decline in hunter days would occur. The decline in hunter days could be about 15%. With the loss in hunter days, travel, equipment, and other hunting related expenditures would decline. effects from fewer expenditures with income losses, the total economic losses are estimated at $98.0 million and 1,459 jobs. The sectors most impacted by this decline include service stations, retail, hotels and lodging places, eating and drinking, real estate, food stores, wholesale trade, owner occupied dwellings, banking, and state and local government. These effects would accrue from less travel, food expenditures, lodging, equipment and supplies purchases, fewer licenses sold, and the spillover effects of these declines on the general economy.
This took me 2 seconds to find. There is plenty of facts and studies that support a great economic/hunting loss with CWD.
The last TB outbreak in 3 captive herds in Indiana cost taxpayers $248,000. You can thank Rodney for that bill.
TB in this state would really cost Hoosier and those raising cattle. There should not be captive wildlife. Should never happened.
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