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Post by Woody Williams on Jun 1, 2011 9:14:13 GMT -5
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Post by steiny on Jun 1, 2011 17:38:27 GMT -5
Sent mine in today.
Dang IL tags are pricey! Been going there for several years but might go somewhere else next year on the matter of principal.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2011 17:52:45 GMT -5
No real hurry to buy one any more, they won't sell out till way late in the season
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Post by xizang on Jun 1, 2011 18:48:38 GMT -5
Any of you that hunt IL often know of any good public hunting areas for muzzleloader. I have good spots for archery, but they are archery only. With there only being 2 short season's for muzzleloaders, I hate to put that much down on tags without any info to back it up.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2011 20:17:41 GMT -5
Pm sent
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Post by 76chevy on Jun 2, 2011 10:56:19 GMT -5
with IL being <30 min from my front door, I have been dying to try hunting there!
Hard to justify that $411 tag price when I can hunt IN deer for 'free' with my LTL
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2011 11:47:50 GMT -5
Illinois is the best there is, IMO
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Post by mattfinney on Jun 2, 2011 12:23:18 GMT -5
If Indiana had Illinois' gun seasons, the hunting here would be just as good.
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Post by speckle on Jun 2, 2011 12:37:00 GMT -5
Do they only crossbows in early archery?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2011 13:26:37 GMT -5
Matt, if that happened, would it revert to two bucks LIKE Illinois?
As for being like Illinois, one reason for the short season is the number of deer hunters in the state......doesn't even come close to comparing with Indiana.
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Post by cambygsp on Jun 2, 2011 15:04:42 GMT -5
If Indiana had Illinois' gun seasons, the hunting here would be just as good. Gosh.......seems like the simple solution would be to move to Illinois and not worry too much about Indiana. You know if Indiana had Florida's weather the winters here would not be as bad !
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Post by Woody Williams on Jun 2, 2011 16:42:15 GMT -5
If Indiana had Illinois' gun seasons, the hunting here would be just as good. Gosh.......seems like the simple solution would be to move to Illinois and not worry too much about Indiana. You know if Indiana had Florida's weather the winters here would not be as bad ! Isn't it something? Poor, poor, poor Indiana! If we could just be like ___________ I'd be SOOOOOO much happier ......... That stuff sure gets old...
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Post by Woody Williams on Jun 2, 2011 16:54:13 GMT -5
Do they only crossbows in early archery? They allow crossbows for the physically challenged and anyone 62 and over for all of the archery season.
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Post by mattfinney on Jun 2, 2011 17:20:50 GMT -5
You know what else gets old, you guys admitting that Illinois has a great thing going, but refusing to accept any changes that might bring Indiana towards that level. Mind boggling really.
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Post by Woody Williams on Jun 2, 2011 17:58:28 GMT -5
You know what else gets old, you guys admitting that Illinois has a great thing going, but refusing to accept any changes that might bring Indiana towards that level. Mind boggling really. Listen Matt.. We "accepted changes" with the OBR. That is somethinge we will be stuck with forever. But that isn't enough for some anymore. Now the same folks and a few Johnny Come Latelys are asking for more and more. They want to shorten the gun seasons, move it back and shorten the muzzleloader season. Anything to stop gun hunters for having more time to SELECTIVELY hunt bucks. NO WHERE do I see the same folks wanting to shorten any other season. In fact they want to lengthen the archery season. We've got folks that want to kick gun hunters out of some WildLife Management Areas and make them bow only. It doesn't matter if that is the only place a number of gun hunters can hunt they can pack up and go elsewhere. Drive another 2 or 3 hours, who cares as long as they can bowhunt that property? So tell me Matt... when is enough, enough? When does this search for the Holy Grail of antlers stop? When will all of the antler worshippers be satisfied? My guess is NEVER. I've deer hunted longer than you are old and I have always thought Indiana was fair to all the Indiana deer hunters. The way the Indiana gun seasn cycles it is in the peak of the rut and at the tail end, depending on an early or late start. The bowhunters have all the pre-rut and rut EVERY year, but that isn't good enough. They want the gun hunters moved further away from the rut. Sort of like kicking gun hunters out of some WMAs. It is a fairness issue, Matt. Not a how big can we grow bucks issue.. NOW - get back on topic.
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Post by cambygsp on Jun 2, 2011 20:01:18 GMT -5
You know what else gets old, you guys admitting that Illinois has a great thing going, but refusing to accept any changes that might bring Indiana towards that level. Mind boggling really. I don't know if Illinois has a good thing going or not, I've never hunted there. Fact of the matter is I have never had a desire to hunt Illinois. I do know for a fact that the few Illionis hunting type websites / message boards I have been to, that the average folks are or seem to be complaining about the same things that the average folks in Indiana complain about. There are just not enough BIG BUCKS anywhere for EVERY DEER HUNTER TO KILL ONE.......some will and some won't regardless of management !
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Post by mattfinney on Jun 2, 2011 20:16:08 GMT -5
Last thing I have to say.
I have no interest in kicking gun hunters out of anything. I myself, am indeed a gun hunter, I'm also a bow hunter, and a deer hunter.
The only thing I'm interested in is quality management of our deer resource.
We just look at things differently, and that't OK. Where as you would call it "kick(ing) gun hunters out of some WildLife Management Areas", I would call it "making the deer hunters in that particular WMA chase whitetails with archery equipment". All deer hunters are allowed to hunt archery season. I mean come on....Kentucky has over 150,000 acres of archery only public, and Missouri has over 100,000 acres....I would like to see 20,000 acres in Indiana, it seems fair to me.
Woody, I wish there was a surplus of hunting land out there, and we could all hunt totally unregulated and still do no harm to the resource, but the reality is, we are terribly crowded with hunters these days, many hunters even pay farmers upwards of $25/acre per year just to have a quality place to hunt. Indiana's deer herd is shared by all of us, and the characteristics of the deer herd can only be manipulated through regulation.
Again, here is where you and I subscribe to different schools of thought. Where as I am in favor of restricting the pressure on bucks, and adding pressure on does through regulation, you often favor increased opportunity for both sexes, which in the real world, equates to increased opportunity at bucks, as the overwhelming majority of deer hunters are out there to kill a buck. What this gives us, is a very high harvest of young bucks, as they are by far the most vulnerable deer in the woods during November, and less does. This gives us a very heavy doe/buck ratio, and a very young age structure. This very unnatural herd structure equates to lower quality deer hunting.
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Post by MuzzleLoader on Jun 2, 2011 20:23:23 GMT -5
Matt-
Go Hunt Illinois, you will make alot of INDIANA hunters happy. Pay the $411, for a tag, I will go hunting with my Lifetime Hunting License I purchased 22 years ago.
I love INDIANA deer hunting. Long season with lots of time to choose to shoot or not shoot a buck. I dont shoot a buck every year. I pass on alot of bucks simply because they are not what I am looking for.
I shoot lots of does simply to help the herd, donate the meat and share with family members.
I am out hunting from early bowseason to the last day of late muzzleloader. Why?? Because I can, and I love the outdoors.
You dont have to shoot a big buck every year to enjoy a successful hunt. It took me alot of years to figure out that its not about the antler, its about the time away in the woods.
You are experiencing the best deer hunting Indiana has ever seen. But you want more, bigger and better. Its right under your nose, sorry you cant see it.
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Post by mattfinney on Jun 2, 2011 20:26:41 GMT -5
If I tag a buck early in Indiana, there is a very good chance you'll find me on some public ground in Illinois.
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Post by gobblerstopper on Jun 2, 2011 20:36:05 GMT -5
Last thing I have to say. I think you had most of us at..."Last thing I have to say." Tell us again how good the hunting was on that "archery only" WMA you hunted?
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