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Post by ihunt2liv on Sept 3, 2008 1:28:48 GMT -5
Wow, I just got done watching the Republican National Convention. I tell you what ....I am moved. Where else can you get such genuine REAL people? Oh, and that Laura Bush, I got all misty-eyed when she started to talk about all of the accomplishments of her husband. But what really stabbed at my heart was how everyone made me feel so loved and part of the family. Also, the continuous evangelical references really made me think about heaven and Jesus.......and the souls of the young men and women that have given their lives in their service to us. I find it so baflfling that people would want to subject themselves to 4 or possibly 8 eight years of this crap. Well, I guess you have done that before so this is nothing new to you.
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Post by cambygsp on Sept 3, 2008 3:36:11 GMT -5
I watched last night too!
I was looking for Woody, thinking that the Branson story was a cover up....lol
No, really......I am a undecided voter.....I watched all 4 nights of the Democrat convention and will do the same with the GOP
I have to say, when it comes to "Country First" McCain wins hands down!
I am REALLY looking forward to hearing Govenor Palin speak tonite!
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Post by dbd870 on Sept 3, 2008 3:50:36 GMT -5
I couldn't take 10min of either of the party's conventions. All I need to do is review Obama's voting record and Biden... - I suppose they're fine if you're a socialist. The Republican's haven't impressed me all that much but looking at the alternative....{shudder}
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Post by drgreyhound on Sept 3, 2008 4:47:49 GMT -5
I couldn't take 10min of either of the party's conventions. All I need to do is review Obama's voting record and Biden... - I suppose they're fine if you're a socialist. The Republican's haven't impressed me all that much but looking at the alternative....{shudder} , with the exception of Sarah Palin. Her name on the ticket makes me feel a little better about having to vote for McCain.
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Post by Hawkeye on Sept 3, 2008 7:14:41 GMT -5
Seems like as far back as I can remember, I vote for the lesser of the two evils.
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Post by Woody Williams on Sept 3, 2008 7:54:53 GMT -5
Yep.. Fred saved his best speech ever for the convention.
If he had came out swinging like that in the primaries he might have won it.
They should have had Lieberman up first casue after Fred's speech there was probably not a whole lot of Democrats still tuned in. Joe did good.
Sure beats that "hope and change" rock concert by long shot......
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Post by Russ Koon on Sept 3, 2008 8:28:14 GMT -5
What dbd870 said.
My earliest recollection of anything to do with politics was watching the 1952 convention on the family's nine-inch Philco TV, and being fascinated that adults could carry on so right out in public.
The TV has evolved to a 47" flatscreen in high def, and the picture doesn't have snow even during the summer like ours did back then, but the campaign blather seems to still be about the same quality and still has about the same relationship to reality.
Past performance seems to be a more accurate predictor of future actions than campaign promises.
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Post by raporter on Sept 3, 2008 8:31:09 GMT -5
I couldn't take 10min of either of the party's conventions. All I need to do is review Obama's voting record and Biden... - I suppose they're fine if you're a socialist. The Republican's haven't impressed me all that much but looking at the alternative....{shudder} That and the speaches started to darn late for me. Guess I am just getting to danged old.
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Post by Old Ironsights on Sept 3, 2008 10:02:27 GMT -5
No. No more than I would vote for a member of "Dam Nation Colition".
I'm voting for Ron Paul - unless the State is close, then I'm voting for Sarah Palin.
I am NOT voting for McChurian, the RNC or Osnoba J Biden.
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Post by 76chevy on Sept 3, 2008 21:05:10 GMT -5
watching the RNC now, it's just plain sad......
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Post by 76chevy on Sept 4, 2008 9:37:12 GMT -5
I bet our forefathers would be proud of this type of logic. Seems like as far back as I can remember, I vote for the lesser of the two evils.
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Post by Old Ironsights on Sept 4, 2008 9:53:55 GMT -5
They would have already burned DC to the ground and tarred/feathered most of the people there.
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Post by birddog on Sept 4, 2008 10:30:23 GMT -5
Well let me say this,I'm 60 years of age,voted in every election since I was 18 years old,high school graduate,Marine,did Viet-Nam,purple heart and I can say one thing for sure and that is I WOULDN'T VOTE FOR OBAMA IF HE WAS THE LAST MAN ON EARTH.HE HASN'T DONE A DAMN THING TO EVEN BE ON THE BALLOT IN MY OPINION EXCEPT KISS A BUNCH OF a@@ AT LEAST THE LADY HAS BEEN ELECTED TO THE POSITION OF GOVERNOR,MORE THAN ANYONE CAN SAY ABOUT OBAMA. JUST WHAT HAS HE EVER DONE TO BE HERE ?? Hmmmmmmm..NOTHING!!!!!!!!!! AT LEAST MCCAIN/PALIN WILL FIGHT FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND THAT'S MORE THAN OBAMA WOULD EVER DO,HELL HE'S WANTED OUT OF THIS WAR SINCE THE DAY IT BEGIN..WHO HASN'T BUT SOME THINGS ARE MEANT TO BE FOUGHT FOR AND THIS WAR IS ONE OF THEM..HELL NOBODY EVER WANTED WWII OR KOREA OR VIET-NAM. AS FOR AS SOMEONES COMMENT ABOUT LAURA BUSH,YOU WOULDN'T KNOW A REAL LADY IF SHE LOOKED YOU RIGHT IN THE FACE!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by ihunt2liv on Sept 4, 2008 11:05:02 GMT -5
A little truth to clear the air...................
ST. PAUL, Minn. - Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin and her Republican supporters held back little Wednesday as they issued dismissive attacks on Barack Obama and flattering praise on her credentials to be vice president. In some cases, the reproach and the praise stretched the truth. Some examples:
PALIN: "I have protected the taxpayers by vetoing wasteful spending ... and championed reform to end the abuses of earmark spending by Congress. I told the Congress 'thanks but no thanks' for that Bridge to Nowhere."
THE FACTS: As mayor of Wasilla, Palin hired a lobbyist and traveled to Washington annually to support earmarks for the town totaling $27 million. In her two years as governor, Alaska has requested nearly $750 million in special federal spending, by far the largest per-capita request in the nation. While Palin notes she rejected plans to build a $398 million bridge from Ketchikan to an island with 50 residents and an airport, that opposition came only after the plan was ridiculed nationally as a "bridge to nowhere."
PALIN: "There is much to like and admire about our opponent. But listening to him speak, it's easy to forget that this is a man who has authored two memoirs but not a single major law or reform — not even in the state senate."
THE FACTS: Compared to McCain and his two decades in the Senate, Obama does have a more meager record. But he has worked with Republicans to pass legislation that expanded efforts to intercept illegal shipments of weapons of mass destruction and to help destroy conventional weapons stockpiles. The legislation became law last year. To demean that accomplishment would be to also demean the work of Republican Sen. Richard Lugar of Indiana, a respected foreign policy voice in the Senate. In Illinois, he was the leader on two big, contentious measures in Illinois: studying racial profiling by police and requiring recordings of interrogations in potential death penalty cases. He also successfully co-sponsored major ethics reform legislation.
PALIN: "The Democratic nominee for president supports plans to raise income taxes, raise payroll taxes, raise investment income taxes, raise the death tax, raise business taxes, and increase the tax burden on the American people by hundreds of billions of dollars."
THE FACTS: The Tax Policy Center, a think tank run jointly by the Brookings Institution and the Urban Institute, concluded that Obama's plan would increase after-tax income for middle-income taxpayers by about 5 percent by 2012, or nearly $2,200 annually. McCain's plan, which cuts taxes across all income levels, would raise after tax-income for middle-income taxpayers by 3 percent, the center concluded.
Obama would provide $80 billion in tax breaks, mainly for poor workers and the elderly, including tripling the Earned Income Tax Credit for minimum-wage workers and higher credits for larger families.
He also would raise income taxes, capital gains and dividend taxes on the wealthiest. He would raise payroll taxes on taxpayers with incomes above $250,000, and he would raise corporate taxes. Small businesses that make more than $250,000 a year would see taxes rise.
MCCAIN: "She's been governor of our largest state, in charge of 20 percent of America's energy supply ... She's responsible for 20 percent of the nation's energy supply. I'm entertained by the comparison and I hope we can keep making that comparison that running a political campaign is somehow comparable to being the executive of the largest state in America," he said in an interview with ABC News' Charles Gibson.
THE FACTS: McCain's phrasing exaggerates both claims. Palin is governor of a state that ranks second nationally in crude oil production, but she's no more "responsible" for that resource than President Bush was when he was governor of Texas, another oil-producing state. In fact, her primary power is the ability to tax oil, which she did in concert with the Alaska Legislature. And where Alaska is the largest state in America, McCain could as easily have called it the 47th largest state — by population.
MCCAIN: "She's the commander of the Alaska National Guard. ... She has been in charge, and she has had national security as one of her primary responsibilities," he said on ABC.
THE FACTS: While governors are in charge of their state guard units, that authority ends whenever those units are called to actual military service. When guard units are deployed to Iraq or Afghanistan, for example, they assume those duties under "federal status," which means they report to the Defense Department, not their governors. Alaska's national guard units have a total of about 4,200 personnel, among the smallest of state guard organizations.
FORMER ARKANSAS GOV. MIKE HUCKABEE: Palin "got more votes running for mayor of Wasilla, Alaska than Joe Biden got running for president of the United States."
THE FACTS: A whopper. Palin got 616 votes in the 1996 mayor's election, and got 909 in her 1999 re-election race, for a total of 1,525. Biden dropped out of the race after the Iowa caucuses, but he still got 76,165 votes in 23 states and the District of Columbia where he was on the ballot during the 2008 presidential primaries.
FORMER MASSACHUSETTS GOV. MITT ROMNEY: "We need change, all right — change from a liberal Washington to a conservative Washington! We have a prescription for every American who wants change in Washington — throw out the big-government liberals, and elect John McCain and Sarah Palin."
THE FACTS: A Back-to-the-Future moment. George W. Bush, a conservative Republican, has been president for nearly eight years. And until last year, Republicans controlled Congress. Only since January 2007 have Democrats have been in charge of the House and Senate.
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Post by raporter on Sept 4, 2008 11:47:49 GMT -5
Well let me say this,I'm 60 years of age,voted in every election since I was 18 years old,high school graduate,Marine,did Viet-Nam,purple heart and I can say one thing for sure and that is I WOULDN'T VOTE FOR OBAMA IF HE WAS THE LAST MAN ON EARTH.HE HASN'T DONE A DAMN THING TO EVEN BE ON THE BALLOT IN MY OPINION EXCEPT KISS A BUNCH OF a@@ AT LEAST THE LADY HAS BEEN ELECTED TO THE POSITION OF GOVERNOR,MORE THAN ANYONE CAN SAY ABOUT OBAMA. JUST WHAT HAS HE EVER DONE TO BE HERE ?? Hmmmmmmm..NOTHING!!!!!!!!!! AT LEAST MCCAIN/PALIN WILL FIGHT FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND THAT'S MORE THAN OBAMA WOULD EVER DO,HELL HE'S WANTED OUT OF THIS WAR SINCE THE DAY IT BEGIN..WHO HASN'T BUT SOME THINGS ARE MEANT TO BE FOUGHT FOR AND THIS WAR IS ONE OF THEM..HELL NOBODY EVER WANTED WWII OR KOREA OR VIET-NAM. AS FOR AS SOMEONES COMMENT ABOUT LAURA BUSH,YOU WOULDN'T KNOW A REAL LADY IF SHE LOOKED YOU RIGHT IN THE FACE!!!!!!!!!! You da Man Birddog.
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Post by birddog on Sept 4, 2008 12:00:14 GMT -5
ihunt2liv, Just what ELECTED OFFICE have you ever held? ?...Hmmmmmmmmmmm...waiting? ?Just what I thought..NOTHING..SO TELL ME THIS HOW CAN YOU BELITTLE ONE THAT HAS HELD THE OFFICE OF GOVERNOR OF THE LARGEST STATE IN THE U.S.?..COME TO THINK OF IT..HAS OBAMA EVER HELD AN OFFICE THAT RANKS AS HIGH AS GOVENOR???THE ONE HE WAS ELECTED TO WAS JUST WHAT A VERY SHORT TIME AGO????THE MAN CAN'T EVEN GIVE A SPEECH WITHOUT A TELEPROPTER..AT LEAST SHE DONE THAT LAST NIGHT!!!!!!
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Post by bsutravis on Sept 4, 2008 13:32:55 GMT -5
But Birddog, how can you pass over Hussein Obama's service to the great City of Chicago when he was a Community Organizer!!! C'mon..... a COMMUNITY ORGANIZER, and what a fine job he did in turning the Chicago Southside into...ummmm, into....ummmmm....anyway, he's all about HOPE!!!!!
But seriously, thank you for your service to our country birddog, and thank you for your comments posted here!
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Post by DEERTRACKS on Sept 4, 2008 13:35:14 GMT -5
Palin is a rose among thorns.
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Post by birddog on Sept 4, 2008 13:44:26 GMT -5
bsutravis,
No thanks necessary,it was something that had to be done.
This guy Obama is just a flash in the pan,sooner or later everybody will catch on,at least McCain served in the U.S. AIR FORCE and Palin is at least GOVERNOR of our largest state,Now if you would show me where Obama can meet any of these credentials I'll kiss your A@@...Hmmm let's see Oh he has served in the Senate and passed on how many votes..133 if I'm correct!!!!!!!!
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Post by 76chevy on Sept 4, 2008 14:29:10 GMT -5
Yes Alaska is the largest state by area, but the 47th largest by population en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaskaihunt2liv, Just what ELECTED OFFICE have you ever held? ?...Hmmmmmmmmmmm...waiting? ?Just what I thought..NOTHING..SO TELL ME THIS HOW CAN YOU BELITTLE ONE THAT HAS HELD THE OFFICE OF GOVERNOR OF THE LARGEST STATE IN THE U.S.?..COME TO THINK OF IT..HAS OBAMA EVER HELD AN OFFICE THAT RANKS AS HIGH AS GOVENOR???THE ONE HE WAS ELECTED TO WAS JUST WHAT A VERY SHORT TIME AGO????THE MAN CAN'T EVEN GIVE A SPEECH WITHOUT A TELEPROPTER..AT LEAST SHE DONE THAT LAST NIGHT!!!!!!
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