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Post by Russ Koon on Mar 24, 2021 11:10:59 GMT -5
I've got a good supply of them and will likely continue wearing one on the rare occasions when I go inside a store, until the threat of bringing it home to my wife is much less than it still is now. We've received our first shots of the Moderna vaccine and will be getting our second ones tomorrow. However, the last word I've heard is that the variants may be less affected by the vaccine's protection, and is much more contagious.
I don't like wearing the darn things, either, and I suspect that Rand Paul probably is being sincere in his advice. But he's balancing the risk to the general public against the economic risk to the public. I have to balance the risk to my wife, who is highly compromised in several of the risk factors, and would be very unlikely to survive the infection. Makes a difference in the result when the downside risk is near certain miserable death of a loved one.
Our son is head of health and safety at a multinational corporation and has been dealing with the pandemic from the start, learning all he can and making decisions that balance the health of the company and the employees, as well as the public, and has put in tremendous care, thought and effort into the struggle the entire year. He's my expert of choice for realistic and responsible advice on the issue. I'd have to categorize his stance as currently being closer to that of Fauci than of Paul. His worst disappointments have been the disregard of those who have dismissed the risk to others and have sided with the virus instead of their fellow humans in this war.
Looks to me like we're finally making serious gains on the real enemy. Probably still too early to relax our defensive efforts and let the bug snatch victory from the jaws of defeat. IMO, if we "play sixty" maybe we can all toss our remaining masks onto the VC day bonfire in the fall, in person.
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Post by Russ Koon on Mar 15, 2021 13:48:56 GMT -5
I've always felt that we should quit playing like it's a different time of day than it actually is, and just adjust our schedules to with the natural truth, as nearly as possible.
The sunrise and sunset times are available for every longitude, and the sun should be at it's highest point in the sky at the middle of the day. Depending on where you are within your time zone, you may be as much a half hour either way from that ideal natural matching of your clock and nature, but that's as close as we can come while still having the global time zones, which do make good sense.
Some states would still have different time zones within their state, and I suppose it does make some sense to "bend" the line a little to make the clocks in a county where a majority of the people work or trade in the big city nearby in another state and another time zone, but I suspect that even in those locations, adherence to the time zone closest to the natural one would be less troublesome than adhering to the one dictated by the legislators, who are so easily influenced by various business interests and special interest groups.
If we do want let politics determine what time it is, could we maybe get the legislature to shave a few days off the months of January and February, and add them to April and October so we'd have more time for mushrooms, crappies, and bowhunting?
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Post by Russ Koon on Mar 14, 2021 10:30:56 GMT -5
Right up there with the stupidest practices we do, along with continuing to mint pennies and nickels that cost us more to make than they are worth in face value, and subsidizing overbreeding in a world that's already at a population level that is unsustainable in the long term.
Doesn't take a rocket scientist to see the folly. Problem is, there's no money in the solutions, compared to the money in the continuation of the stupidity. Good thing, since the rocket scientists are busy right now figuring up what they can make by plotting the details of our upcoming exploration of new sites for landfills on Mars and beyond. We've already filled lots of the apace in our own world and the skies above it.
Flame suit on, awaiting responses. Please be gentle, I'm old.
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Post by Russ Koon on Mar 8, 2021 16:32:43 GMT -5
Crossed the country (sorta) in a VW bus (not a 23 window) about 40 years ago. A buddy at work had bought one that needed some love, and he overhauled the engine and did a little bodywork, and prepped it for paint then took it to Earl Scheib's for the $50 special (actually pretty good paint jobs if you did your own prep work).
IIRC we got about 23 mpg for the highway portion of the trip, but the pedal was usually to the metal and we did some serious drafting whenever we could. If we could tuck in behind a big rig trailer the bus would hold on until the truck passed 75 or so. Once we were out of Denver and into the REAL hills, we did a lot of downshifting, but nothing stopped us completely. Neither of us got out to see if we could run alongside, but it was tempting as we got up close to the high passes. We explored a few roads going back into some remote public land the bus did well on them.
We backpacked up onto the Flattops Wilderness area to hunt for the week and had a good time. When we were leaving for home, my friend said he felt something was not quite right with the steering as we approached the gravelled switchbacks leading south onto the highway. He got out and inspected the steering and suspension, and finally spotted the problem. One of the main attachment points of the rear suspension had broken free from the unibody! I kinda wished he hadn't told me about it as we snaked our way down the mountain to highway level, but we made it OK and found a welding shop to get a quick repair that he said wasn't real pretty but looked sturdy, and we had no other problems as we went home.
Tough vehicles that took a lot of abuse and got people back home, just not very quickly 8^)
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Post by Russ Koon on Feb 7, 2021 1:06:03 GMT -5
I kinda thought I would watch less NFL this year, too. Turned out I was starved enough for anything worth watching on the TV that when the season actually started, and the Colts looked more promising all the time, I ended up seeing more games this year than I had in many years, and actually enjoyed it more as well.
NASCAR has continued to dim in my schedule, continuing the downward trend of the last several years, especially the big races that used to interest me most. As the cars kept being bunched into flocks by rules changes, and consequently the contests became less a test of skill and more one of luck in the almost inevitable "big one" in the last few laps, my interest level seemed to dwindle away in proportion. It had already gotten to the point where I would normally just record the race as it ran live, and zip through it in the evening so it all took just and hour or so with the remote in my hand most of the time. This year I actually missed one race just because I forgot to set the machine and didn't think about it until a Tuesday, and then didn't bother to check the net for the results.
I have liked the increase in road races in NASCAR the last few years, and I've caught myself being more careful to be sure to record those and the shorter tracks for sure.
I never got very interested in boycotting either activity, just slowly lost some of the interest I used to have for them.
Don't really know how much it might be due to the weirdness of the year with the pandemic and all.
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Post by Russ Koon on Jan 28, 2021 23:25:00 GMT -5
Another way to escape the crowds is to use a canoe to access areas well away from the parking lots. I've done that several times in HNF and a few times on Monroe Reservoir property.
As mentioned above, the weekdays are best even when accessing a good hunting area by boat. The traffic from other bowhunters isn't usually as much a problem as the horsemen and hikers enjoying a pleasant fall day or an overnight camp in the milder weather and fall colors, especially around the reservoir areas.
One problem that caught me unexpectedly on a trip to Salt Creek upstream from the reservoir one time was the amount of leaves that had fallen over the five or six days since my previous scouting trip. Came back to camp and hunt the following weekend and the creek was so choked with leaves that I couldn't paddle through it! I launched and struggled through a couple hundred yards of it, hoping it would be thinner downstream, but after that distance and finding it to look the same as far as I could see after going around a couple bends, I was pretty much worn out and struggled to get back to the truck. If you can imagine trying to paddle on a creek of molasses, that's about as close as I could describe that day. I don't recall the date, but I think it was a couple weeks later than your target date, maybe around the end of October. I know our Fall Foliage Festival targets the time for best foliage viewing, and it is usually the second weekend in Oct. Aside from that time, I enjoyed about every other aspect of my fall float hunts...capacity to carry a few more comfort items for a more comfortable camp, nice quiet movement, and the water is always at the bottom of the hill and the haul out to the truck is flat all the way.
I've used the canoe to hunt on Lake Monroe a few times as well, and it has some of the same assets, but tends to have more campers on the shoreline, especially in pretty weather. Some of the smaller public waters are also good possibilities, but I've only experienced a few of them, and I think the camping would be in designated areas only around most of them.
I did hunt and canoe camp in the Greene-Sullivan SF some years back, and it was mostly open to primitive camping back then, but not sure if that is still the case there. When I did it, you could walk to everyplace in there, but accessing some of them was a lot easier by canoe.
I've wanted to try the area around Patoka Lake for a long time, and have still never got around to it.
I've always enjoyed getting well away from the other hunters and campers, too. But I have found through the years that most of the deer are going to stay pretty close walking distance to their food sources, and in farm country, that means crop fields above all else. You do sacrifice some quantity of deer when you get more distance from the fields, but the experience of having a large area of deep woods to yourself makes up for the lack of high deer numbers.
Good luck and come back and let us know how it works out.
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Post by Russ Koon on Jan 28, 2021 11:48:00 GMT -5
Yeah, I had never had an urge to install a bidet, either, but we now have one in the big bath off the hallway. Our son is employed by a major supplier of plumbing fixtures and he decided that one would be a great gift for his momma. Lucky for us both, he also had all the needed expertise and energy to do the installation, so it actually was installed quickly instead of sitting in the way while I searched for u-tube vid's on installation and waited for it to rise to the top of my to-do list. 8^)
We're mighty proud of our boy!
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Post by Russ Koon on Jan 26, 2021 14:41:22 GMT -5
Called in several mulie does with the can call out in ND but it was mostly when I was heading back to camp after a burger and beer at the local pub. I was seeing several crossing the road almost every evening at about that same time, and one night I just stopped my old van right in the middle of the gravel road and stuck my arm out the window and tipped the can over a few times to see their reaction. Even with the headlights on and the old Chcvy six rattling like a threshing machine, they still slowly approached until several were within easy bow range. That gave me the confidence to use it more during daylight, but as I recall, the only whitetail I ever stopped with it was a button that stopped and came up a sidehill to the base of my tree on the first day of gun. I suspect he was looking for his mom.
The only decent WT buck I ever called in was by accident one morning as I was climbing a skinny white oak just about at legal shooting light one morning and wasn't trusting the stand to get a good bite on the bark, so I "set" the v-bar each time as I went up another foot or so, making a solid "chunk" that I tried to keep from being too loud.
I was about twelve feet up when I heard something coming at a lope on the ridge behind me. I turned my head to watch and it was a good medium eight, coming in with a stiff-gait, mane standing up, and a look in his eye that said he was looking for the trespasser who was thumping a tree in his territory! He came directly under me as I hung there from the climber section of the old imitation Baker, and stopped about twenty feet past me to look over the territory still ahead of him apparently wondering what became of the other buck he'd heard. I was still hanging there watching him a few minutes later when he seemed to relax and went on down the ridge and out of site, and I was able to finish climbing and pulling up the bow.
Thinking back on 55 years of bowhunting, I suspect that a good part of my lack of success with rattling and calling was probably my lack of confidence in them. Read a good article one time on the selection of fishing lures by expert fishermen. Seems that most of them interviewed for his research tended to stay with the type they first had success with. As a result, most of them were very sure that their crankbait, or spinner, or plastic worm was the best thing they could throw in the water, and so was their selection to try first on a fishing trip, which gave it the advantage of getting first opportunity on a fishy looking morning, while others that may well have done as well or even better staid in the tacklebox, and may only have been tried after prime time. I know I had carried rattling horns and a grunt tube many times without trying them until well after the first light. Hard to try something you don't have much confidence in when it feels like you'd more likely be messing up your best chance on a nice still morning in the best part of the season, so the lack of confidence becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.
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Post by Russ Koon on Jan 19, 2021 14:24:22 GMT -5
There have been several other times, and several when the Dems did as well.
Any analysis of the benefits or perils of the situation would have to start with the birth of the Republican Party and their first President, Abraham Lincoln. And probably would end up as controversially as modern politics. Some would point out that he was a liberal president, and that almost his entire time in office was during the Civil War, the bloodiest war in our history by far, and one that he is still regarded as having much responsibility for starting. I worked with guys when I got my first factory work in Indy who still called it the "War of Northern Aggression".
Controversy and division have always been there in governments, especially in the freest of governments, where the future course of the nation can be discussed, argued about, and decided by elected officials. And when it gets down to teaching our grandkids whether or not a war was "just" or "necessary" or "unavoidable".....well, the winners get to write the history books.
Good luck in your search for truth and clarity.
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Post by Russ Koon on Jan 17, 2021 14:05:49 GMT -5
That placement does look more and more practical the more I think about it. I've looked at several options for adding a shower to my small half bath off the main BR, and I think this would actually work better than the alternatives I've found.
Yeah, it does look like a joke, but many of us seniors are using a seat of some sort in their showers and this looks like a do able space-saver that could actually work. Probably would have to be a DIY project, and might be a dubious asset for resale value, but removing it should be relatively simple if needed, and meanwhile I'm thinking having it there would beat not having it because there just wasn't room for a separate shower.
In my case, the toilet location could remain at its current spot as would the sink, so there would be minimal plumbing changes, on the necessary supply lines for the shower head and an added shower drain with trap to tie into the existing drain from the toilet.
Thought the idea had occurred to me before, and I just realized it was when I was daydreaming about liveaboard boats back before retiring, and I noticed that several of them had done a very similar location of the toilet into the shower stall as a space-saver.
The tiny half bath was coming towards the top of my to-do list, anyway. This plan change would make the shower addition much quicker and easier than the other options I was considering. Thanks, treetop!
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Post by Russ Koon on Jan 16, 2021 10:07:46 GMT -5
But there's the priceless satisfaction and pride in a job well done with your own hands!
And just think about all those employees and stockholders at Lowe's, Menards, Home Depot...you're doing a great public service in keeping their doors open.
I tried to convince a coupe of the younger guys in the tool room at work when they asked me when I was going to retire that I just enjoyed the job too much to even consider it. After all, we got to operate precision machinery worth millions of dollars, machining and repairing tooling of all varieties, and the company supplied us with all the needed materials and supplies and even the utilities, and hauled away our finished products and brought us a new project when we got something done! How much would we pay to have all that in our garage to play with?
Don't think I really convinced them of my sincerity, though. I had the wheels on my tool cart all oiled up for the long push out to the parking lot well in advance of my last day there. 8^)
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Post by Russ Koon on Jan 15, 2021 14:19:09 GMT -5
Hmmm...I don't know and won't pretend to. But I do keep recalling a suspicion I had during the '16 primaries that he was really a liberal "plant" that was acting like a serious candidate with some obvious baggage and an intent to disrupt the Republican primary process, and possibly torpedo a couple of the most promising competitors from the fall race.
When his strategy found the weakness in the primary process that made it possible for him to actually win, he seemed to play it straight until the nomination was his, then began doing and saying and tweeting a curious mixture of things that a fella that was of a suspicious nature might interpret as playing to our divisions rather than to any possible compromises and whipping up as much polarization as possible. He did surprisingly well, given his personal history and mannerisms...well, maybe not all that surprising since the alternative to him was Hillary.
After actually winning, he seemed to do a lot of the things he had promised, but in retrospect, many of his accomplishments were things that could be overturned with the next election as quickly as they had been with the last one. Meanwhile. his behavior in many areas kept a lot of saying "What the .... was he thinking?".
And his repeated disrespect of some of our actual heroes who deserved better, continued to scrape away at the thin gold plating of his image. Of course we were again left with a choice of voting for him again or voting for Sleepy Joe, and his baggage, and the radical left who appear to be running the Dems from the background while propping him up....or for the alternatives of the Libertarian Party or simply not voting.
Now these last few days' behavior that seem pretty much unexplainable, look a little more explainable if viewed from the prospect that he was a shill from the start, and his parting shot is to assure that there won't be another Republican presidential prospect for a generation or so, possibly even ever. The GOP could follow their predecessors, the Whigs, into history.
That may all be complete speculation on my part. However, I can't seem to imagine his doing as effective a job of it by accident. He does have experience at playing a dictatorial chief executive, and a pre-existing friendship with Slick Willie.
I really hope the GOP does some serious reconsideration of their primary procedures to reduce the possibility of another triumph by another populist manipulator in the future, for all our sakes. We could have done better in 2016 with some tweaks to the system. My personal pick would have been Rand Paul, but I think the best candidate for the party's chance to win in the fall without the trauma and drama would have been Paul Ryan. Erudite, good speaker, with experience in winning in a bi-partisan atmosphere. And a fellow bowhunter and actual family man.
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Post by Russ Koon on Jan 13, 2021 0:01:39 GMT -5
I thought that was Kasey. We lost my buddy Fraidy who was marked very similar to Kasey two months ago. He was 13, and had been very healthy most of his life, with one bout of urinary tract infection about ten years ago that could have been a close call but we got him to a vet just in time.
He just started getting finicky about his eating when he had always been an eager eater, and after switching brands and types of food several times he seemed to be eating well again but I noticed he wasn't regaining weight after eating well again. I checked his litter box and every thing looked normal. Started reading the net for clues and and nothing popped up in the way of treatment or diagnosis. He just kept losing weight and finally strength until he was unable to jump up and lay on my chair arm with me which had become his favorite place the last couple years. He never would come on over onto my lap, after years of coaxing.
Then one day as I was going out to the mailbox he shot past me to get out. He was always an in-and-out cat, but hadn't shown much interest in going out for a month or so. I kind of suspected he might be getting out to die in private, but there had been no sign of pain or discomfort, just weight loss and weakness the last week or so. When he wasn't on the porch again when I called him an hour later, I went looking for him and found him resting in the sun out in the back yard . Sat down close by and spoke to him, and finally lifted him and put him on my lap. He didn't fight the move, and seemed to settle quickly into being comfortable again as I stroked him for about ten minutes, and then he kind of jerked once and stopped breathing. After 13 years of gaining his trust and trying everything I could think of to make him a lap cat, he was, for about ten minutes.
Sure miss that little guy. We'd chased and fought him for more than an hour to get him to the vet that time with the UTI, and I figured the stress would likely have killed him at his age and reduced strength, as he had never become much more tame around others except our son and daughter-in-law, so I never got him to a vet again. Might have had a few more years with him if I had, but might have just made him very miserable for a while with little benefit. Never know.
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Post by Russ Koon on Jan 12, 2021 12:44:54 GMT -5
Yep, the more he says, the less I believe.
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Post by Russ Koon on Jan 11, 2021 17:52:38 GMT -5
Sure is a lot of information floating around now. I guess there always was, but it used to be easier to identify the sources as being more legitimate.
I remember when I was in high school in Bloomington, about sixty years ago, seeing the fliers that had been stuck under the windshield wiper blades of parked cars and discarded. They usually had info on the five or six families that secretly ruled the world, loaning money to nations that needed war materials. Those fliers made some fairly believable points, too, and found their fair share of believers in their theories. And when I was an apprentice up in Indy, some of my fellow apprentices were really getting into the teachings of the John Birch Society, and their literature seemed to be pretty likely to be accurate, at the time.
As I got older and more skeptical, I trusted the mainstream media less, but I also became less trusting in some of the fringe elements as well. Was Ike really a commie dupe?.....Well, I don't think so. Cronkite, maybe, but not Ike.
Eventually I just learned to not get too excited about anybody's political hype. I stayed interested in politics, but just voted for the most conservative candidates almost all the time and didn't believe any of them to be very trustworthy.
The guy in the video above seems genuine enough, but I'll likely forget the details of his predictions before they are due to occur. Getting too late in the game for me to do anything about it anyway. If the good guys need me to saddle up and bring my musket, we're all done for.
I did watch a couple hours of the coverage on the happenings at the Capitol building from the Right Side Network reporters who were there, and then listened to the mainstream media version on the evening news, and saw again how different their version was from what I had witnessed.
The seemingly rabid attempt to hang the President, or burn him at the stake, or whatever, by Pelosi does leave me wondering about her motivation. What could he possibly actually do in these final few days that would be blocked by his official removal from office?
Reminds me again of the old Chinese curse "May you live in interesting times".
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Post by Russ Koon on Dec 31, 2020 8:30:47 GMT -5
We live at Lake Edgewood. Our exit from the community onto 67 isn't bad normally except on particularly busy weekends like when the students are coming in for the fall or when IU is having a home game. But on those fairly frequent occasions, it's not unusual to wait five minutes just to make a right onto 67, and sometimes nearly as long to catch a gap to go north if you're caught in the crossover.
I expect those wait times will be pretty normal to access 67 at the bottom of the hill a couple hundred yards from my house.
We do have a "back way" to get out to get groceries, though. The shortest way to get to Martinsville when 67 is congested would be to take a route that includes a couple of country two-lanes and comes out to 67 at the stoplight at the bridge over White River, but when it gets crowded the traffic is already backed up on the bypass. They have widened it this year and included a couple more turn lanes that will probably help, but I expect it will still be a major bottleneck.
I'm thinking I'll take the back road through Wilbur and either up to the Mooresville Kroger or up 39 to Monrovia and Fraberg's supermarket. The Mooresville Kroger does have the outside pickup like the one in Martinsville, so I'll be using it first and other options later depending on the pandemic situation.
Some of the "back road" options are going to be better than others. Earlier in the year when there was still work ongoing in the stretch of 37 south of Martinsville, the traffic on the back roads was pretty intense in areas where there is normally not another car in sight. That unofficial detour route only lasted a couple months and never had much truck traffic, but it had some folks grumbling about waiting to get out of their driveways.
I bet some of the farm equipment creeping along some of those barely two-lane road will cause some major local backups in the busy seasons. Glad I'm retired. Still going to be enough of a nuisance just getting out for groceries and a few necessities we can't get delivered.
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Post by Russ Koon on Dec 28, 2020 0:57:50 GMT -5
Josey and hunter, I agree that the use of the drugs is nothing to promote or support.
The point I try to make is that the current situation making it illegal, didn't work. It's been illegal since 1937 in the case of marijuana, and even earlier in the case of opium and cocaine. Those drugs are not only still being abused and sold in greater quantities than before they were banned, but they are being sold, manufactured, and often stolen, BECAUSE of the MONEY they bring. And that high profit margin is due to the fact that they can't be grown, made, or sold on the open market by legal companies.
Hunter, you are exactly right in your statement that the only reason the crime syndicates are against legalization is that it would take money out of their hands. But taking the profits out of selling it would remove their motivation to peddle it to kids and enlist other kids into their business.
It would also reduce the incentive for others to make fake pills or powder that is often even more dangerous than the real thing for sale to the dopers.
If the profit motive isn't there, the marketing and sales of the product should decrease. And I think our relationship with our southern neighbors would be improved if we shut down the money flowing to the drug cartels that have taken over territories in their countries using their illegal drug money they make from the rich markets across the border from them.
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Post by Russ Koon on Dec 27, 2020 21:30:40 GMT -5
I'm not advocating for the use of marijuana, other drugs, alcohol, or tobacco. I'm also against sniffing glue, overeating, driving too fast, and climbing trees without being hooked to a lifeline constantly.
But I doubt that the laws against the activities mentioned really have much effect on their use by people who choose to do so.
If we are to use laws to "send a message" that we disapprove of the substance or action, maybe we should also consider laws against large speakers and powerful amps in cars and trucks, pants worn halfway down to the knees, and a bunch of other stuff I would rather not see, like anything in Spandex in a size larger than medium.
Laws should only be involved when they can actually do some good. If a law banning something is so often disregarded as to be completely ineffective, it should probably be repealed, for that reason alone. But if it's a law against the possession of a substance, and that law has the effect of creating a lucrative black market for the substance, with the resulting turf wars and discounted marketing to pre-teens to get them hookedand recruit them into the marketing, then it certainly does more harm than good.
The country learned that lesson with Prohibition nearly a hundred years ago, but we seem to have largely forgotten it in favor of supporting a law that has long ago proven itself to be ineffective in reducing the use of the banned substance, and very effective at creating the most lucrative illegal market since the 1920's.
Pretty sure all the major crime syndicates are dead set against legalization.
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Post by Russ Koon on Dec 27, 2020 1:36:05 GMT -5
Yes. It's one of many issues where he took a more realistic position on an issue, although it wasn't the most popular view at the time.
I smoked a little of it on rare occasions way back when, but never was a regular or heavy user. That was a good many years before I heard of Rand Paul.
Even then, it seemed to me that the "War on Drugs" had actually been lost decades before, and that it had only resulted in the creation of a very lucrative black market for the contraband substances, which rewarded the smugglers and bootleggers of drugs in the same way that Prohibition had rewarded the smugglers and bootleggers of alcohol a couple generations earlier. Made much more sense to legalize it and tax it, than to ban it, creating the much greater profit margins that come with it being illegal, then spending millions of dollars and hundreds of lives of LE personnel in the unwinnable war against it.
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Post by Russ Koon on Dec 24, 2020 15:55:21 GMT -5
Yeah, I know I had a strap wrench and a chain wrench at one time, but only the chain wrench seems to be in my "plumbing stuff drawer". I did try to use the chain wrench, but it seemed like it was likely about to break the filter housing with any more pressure, so I stopped at the time and and went to get another whole filter unit before resuming the work on that problem. so as to avoid having the water off while I went to the store for a new one. That was a couple months ago, and I still haven't had the time to get back to it. The filter housing is too big for my pipe wrench jaws.\\
Don't want to try again until after tomorrow, same reason as above. I've got some PVC the same dia. and a few elbows in that drawer, but I haven't checked the inventory for my exact needs if I break something and need to fix it quickly. I did get the replacement filter after that first attempt, so I'm pretty sure I can get anything else I need at RK or Ace here in town during regular business hours.
I do like plastic plumbing. I got enough practice on copper and black iron in the old days to really appreciate going under the house with the tools and material in one armload to fix something, and coming out when it's done. Almost makes a guy wish something else would leak, just 'cause it's so nice to fix. 8^)
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