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Post by lawrencecountyhunter on Oct 22, 2021 4:50:11 GMT -5
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Post by Mack Apiary Bees on Oct 22, 2021 6:15:18 GMT -5
Evil is everywhere. Just look at some of the religious and government leaders.
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Post by greghopper on Oct 22, 2021 6:46:00 GMT -5
Evil is everywhere. Just look at some of the religious and government leaders. Did you read the link? It looks to be a accident...gezz!
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Post by jjas on Oct 22, 2021 7:26:06 GMT -5
The directory of photography (who died) and the director of the film (who was injured) apparently were talking with Baldwin (who had the gun in his hand) when the prop gun discharged. I saw a news report last night on TV and they were saying that the "gun wrangler" on set normally takes control of the prop gun(s) unless they are actually shooting a scene. I remember years ago an actor named Jon-Eric Hexum put a prop gun to his temple and pulled the trigger. He died from his injuries. So it's pretty obvious that blanks can be dangerous in the wrong hands.
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Post by Mack Apiary Bees on Oct 22, 2021 7:27:48 GMT -5
Evil is everywhere. Just look at some of the religious and government leaders. Did you read the link? It looks to be a accident...gezz! Do you believe everything you read and hear. Who loaded the prop gun? gezz. Think a little bit! gezz
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Post by greghopper on Oct 22, 2021 7:40:52 GMT -5
Did you read the link? It looks to be a accident...gezz! Do you believe everything you read and hear. Who loaded the prop gun? gezz. Think a little bit! gezz Sorry but everything isn't Doom and Gloom(conspiracy)as you see it! SMH Accidents happen believe it or not.
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Post by genesis273 on Oct 22, 2021 8:05:12 GMT -5
Wow, that's just terrible
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Post by tomthreetoes on Oct 22, 2021 8:12:26 GMT -5
Never point ANY GUN at any thing you don't want to shoot, a fundamental rule of gun safety.
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Post by lawrencecountyhunter on Oct 22, 2021 9:04:14 GMT -5
Alec Baldwin is an idiot, so it doesn't surprise me that he pointed it at somebody and pulled the trigger.
I am just incredulous that:
A) They were using a fully functional firearm, and
B) Live rounds, in that particular cartridge, were permitted anywhere near the set
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Post by parrothead on Oct 22, 2021 9:07:38 GMT -5
Like you said he is an idiot, but I am sure they have a prop guy that handles all that stuff. I would think.
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Post by jjas on Oct 22, 2021 9:26:52 GMT -5
Alec Baldwin is an idiot, so it doesn't surprise me that he pointed it at somebody and pulled the trigger. I am just incredulous that: A) They were using a fully functional firearm, and B) Live rounds, in that particular cartridge, were permitted anywhere near the set I'd be shocked if there were live rounds on that set, much less in that prop gun. I heard on the radio this morning that what can happen with prop guns is if they aren't cleaned there is a residue that builds up in the barrel and that residue can become a projectile if it dislodges when the next blank is fired. Is that what happened? I have no idea, but it makes sense. I would say the "gun wrangler" on set is going to be asked a whole lot of questions.
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Post by Russ Koon on Oct 22, 2021 9:36:43 GMT -5
The thing about jumping to what could be wrong conclusions is that the jump is a lot easier to make in some instances than in others.
If Jimmy Stewart had shot someone on set by accident, we'd likely have accepted it as accidental on his word. Same for John Wayne, Clint Eastwood, Roy Rogers or Gene Autry. And some of those guys had done a few things that showed questionable judgment or control. But when Baldwin does it, the nature of the incident seems a lot more suspicious at first glance.
Still curious about how even Baldwin managed to shoot two of them "accidentally".
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Post by lawrencecountyhunter on Oct 22, 2021 10:58:00 GMT -5
Alec Baldwin is an idiot, so it doesn't surprise me that he pointed it at somebody and pulled the trigger. I am just incredulous that: A) They were using a fully functional firearm, and B) Live rounds, in that particular cartridge, were permitted anywhere near the set I'd be shocked if there were live rounds on that set, much less in that prop gun. I heard on the radio this morning that what can happen with prop guns is if they aren't cleaned there is a residue that builds up in the barrel and that residue can become a projectile if it dislodges when the next blank is fired. Is that what happened? I have no idea, but it makes sense. I would say the "gun wrangler" on set is going to be asked a whole lot of questions. Seems pretty far-fetched,but I suppose stranger things have happened...
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Post by Woody Williams on Oct 22, 2021 11:28:30 GMT -5
Alec Baldwin is an idiot, so it doesn't surprise me that he pointed it at somebody and pulled the trigger. I am just incredulous that: A) They were using a fully functional firearm, and B) Live rounds, in that particular cartridge, were permitted anywhere near the set I'd be shocked if there were live rounds on that set, much less in that prop gun. I heard on the radio this morning that what can happen with prop guns is if they aren't cleaned there is a residue that builds up in the barrel and that residue can become a projectile if it dislodges when the next blank is fired. Is that what happened? I have no idea, but it makes sense. I would say the "gun wrangler" on set is going to be asked a whole lot of questions. The number one question would be - Why did Baldwin even have possession of the gun between scenes?
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Post by Mack Apiary Bees on Oct 22, 2021 11:31:18 GMT -5
I'd be shocked if there were live rounds on that set, much less in that prop gun. I heard on the radio this morning that what can happen with prop guns is if they aren't cleaned there is a residue that builds up in the barrel and that residue can become a projectile if it dislodges when the next blank is fired. Is that what happened? I have no idea, but it makes sense. I would say the "gun wrangler" on set is going to be asked a whole lot of questions. The number one question would be - Why did Baldwin even have possession of the gun between scenes? I agree. This incident has a lot of questions on what really happened. I guess in time we might get the truth.
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Post by jjas on Oct 22, 2021 12:49:07 GMT -5
I'd be shocked if there were live rounds on that set, much less in that prop gun. I heard on the radio this morning that what can happen with prop guns is if they aren't cleaned there is a residue that builds up in the barrel and that residue can become a projectile if it dislodges when the next blank is fired. Is that what happened? I have no idea, but it makes sense. I would say the "gun wrangler" on set is going to be asked a whole lot of questions. The number one question would be - Why did Baldwin even have possession of the gun between scenes? From what I've read, he shouldn't have. The "gun wrangler" or "prop master" is supposed to hand the actor the gun loaded with blanks right before the director starts the scene and take the gun from the actor as soon as the director stops the scene. Obviously that doesn't appear to be what happened. I would imagine the truth will come out @ some point.
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Post by 36fan on Oct 22, 2021 12:50:40 GMT -5
I'd be shocked if there were live rounds on that set, much less in that prop gun. I heard on the radio this morning that what can happen with prop guns is if they aren't cleaned there is a residue that builds up in the barrel and that residue can become a projectile if it dislodges when the next blank is fired. Is that what happened? I have no idea, but it makes sense. I would say the "gun wrangler" on set is going to be asked a whole lot of questions. Seems pretty far-fetched,but I suppose stranger things have happened... Remember how Brandon Lee died while filming "The Crow"?
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Post by jjas on Oct 22, 2021 12:53:22 GMT -5
Seems pretty far-fetched,but I suppose stranger things have happened... Remember how Brandon Lee died while filming "The Crow"? I'd forgotten about that. Perhaps something along those lines happened. In the end, it'll come out.
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Post by HuntMeister on Oct 22, 2021 12:59:55 GMT -5
Where does it say that there were live rounds in the gun?
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Post by lawrencecountyhunter on Oct 22, 2021 13:13:14 GMT -5
Where does it say that there were live rounds in the gun? I guess I assumed it was a live round since someone was shot and killed with it.. I didn't know it was possible to shoot and kill someone with built up crud in the barrel?
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