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Post by deadeer on Dec 11, 2017 14:59:30 GMT -5
Disgusted, had a 30 yd broadside shot at a big 8 and the cap didn't go off. Dang it! I need to fix you up with a high performance smokeless gun! |
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Post by M4Madness on Dec 12, 2017 13:28:58 GMT -5
Dang it! I need to fix you up with a high performance smokeless gun! I need me a high performing smokeless gun maybe? I feel like I don't see many deer during muzzy season. I may be wasting my money. But I don't have alot of faith in the muzzy I have now. I'm going to replace it by next year, just not sure with what. Buy a CVA.45-70 rifle and have Jeff Fisk in southern Indiana install a breechplug in it, thus converting it to a smokeless .45 caliber muzzleloader. |
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Post by antiwheeze on Dec 12, 2017 15:15:40 GMT -5
I need me a high performing smokeless gun maybe? I feel like I don't see many deer during muzzy season. I may be wasting my money. But I don't have alot of faith in the muzzy I have now. I'm going to replace it by next year, just not sure with what. Buy a CVA.45-70 rifle and have Jeff Fisk in southern Indiana install a breechplug in it, thus converting it to a smokeless .45 caliber muzzleloader. Is this the CVA Scout? How much is the conversion? |
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Post by filmat10 on Dec 12, 2017 15:41:03 GMT -5
I have a cva accura v2 long range that I bought a year ago,I haven't shot long range with it yet but I'm very impressed with this gun,it's supposed to be accurate to 300 yds
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Post by jimstc on Dec 12, 2017 16:00:37 GMT -5
I have a cva accura v2 long range that I bought a year ago,I haven't shot long range with it yet but I'm very impressed with this gun,it's supposed to be accurate to 300 yds CVA accura v2 is what I have. Not the long range model. Zeroed at 100 yards. I'd push it to 200+ yards with no ethical concerns |
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Post by M4Madness on Dec 12, 2017 16:41:28 GMT -5
Buy a CVA.45-70 rifle and have Jeff Fisk in southern Indiana install a breechplug in it, thus converting it to a smokeless .45 caliber muzzleloader. Is this the CVA Scout? How much is the conversion? Yes, you could use a Scout, Apex, and probably even a Hunter. There are a few smiths doing the conversions, but I figured I'd mention Jeff since he is in Indiana and is well liked. I'd hate to guess on a conversion charge, but it seems like one that accepts 209 primers is around $200 (or maybe less). Send me a message if you want to discuss options, smiths, etc. |
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Post by omegahunter on Dec 12, 2017 16:54:57 GMT -5
Is this the CVA Scout? How much is the conversion? Yes, you could use a Scout, Apex, and probably even a Hunter. There are a few smiths doing the conversions, but I figured I'd mention Jeff since he is in Indiana and is well liked.I'd hate to guess on a conversion charge, but it seems like one that accepts 209 primers is around $200 (or maybe less). Send me a message if you want to discuss options, smiths, etc. Not all conversions are made equal even if it is high quality work. For instance, I had an Encore 45/70 barrel converted by simply threading to take a Savage plug. Cost me $100. It was someone highly recommended and did excellent work, but no ramrod storage on the gun. And that is exactly what I asked for to keep cost low. Ramrod rides in the backpack along with the coveralls that I don't wear while walking. |
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Post by Woody Williams on Dec 12, 2017 16:55:44 GMT -5
I need me a high performing smokeless gun maybe? I feel like I don't see many deer during muzzy season. I may be wasting my money. But I don't have alot of faith in the muzzy I have now. I'm going to replace it by next year, just not sure with what. Buy a CVA.45-70 rifle and have Jeff Fisk in southern Indiana install a breechplug in it, thus converting it to a smokeless .45 caliber muzzleloader. One gent on FaceBook said he had an "Omega" prepared by Jeff. Can he make an Omega smokeless? Surely not? |
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Post by antiwheeze on Dec 12, 2017 16:57:27 GMT -5
Is this the CVA Scout? How much is the conversion? Yes, you could use a Scout, Apex, and probably even a Hunter. There are a few smiths doing the conversions, but I figured I'd mention Jeff since he is in Indiana and is well liked.I'd hate to guess on a conversion charge, but it seems like one that accepts 209 primers is around $200 (or maybe less). Send me a message if you want to discuss options, smiths, etc. I've thought about it but I can't justify spending the money when my cheap CVA Wolf will shoot better than 2" at 100 yds and kills deer perefectly dead and most years I'm only doe hunting in muzzy season. Still smokeless intritgues me. |
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Post by deadeer on Dec 12, 2017 16:58:58 GMT -5
Buy a CVA.45-70 rifle and have Jeff Fisk in southern Indiana install a breechplug in it, thus converting it to a smokeless .45 caliber muzzleloader. One gent on FaceBook said he had an "Omega" prepared by Jeff. Can he make an Omega smokeless? Surely not? Got to change the barrel. |
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Post by omegahunter on Dec 12, 2017 16:59:02 GMT -5
And then there are these. Shilen barrel on a 700ML receiver.  |
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Post by omegahunter on Dec 12, 2017 17:00:14 GMT -5
Buy a CVA.45-70 rifle and have Jeff Fisk in southern Indiana install a breechplug in it, thus converting it to a smokeless .45 caliber muzzleloader. One gent on FaceBook said he had an "Omega" prepared by Jeff. Can he make an Omega smokeless? Surely not? They cut the smokey barrel off and weld back a smokeless barrel. Honestly wish I had done that instead of the full bolt gun build. |
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Post by M4Madness on Dec 12, 2017 17:07:22 GMT -5
Ramrod rides in the backpack along with the coveralls that I don't wear while walking. I bought a 3-piece collapsible one from Arrowhead that deploys quickly when pulled from the pouch. My conversion is the large rifle magnum primer conversion on a CVA Apex done by Jeff Hankins in Kentucky. |
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Post by omegahunter on Dec 12, 2017 17:15:07 GMT -5
Ramrod rides in the backpack along with the coveralls that I don't wear while walking. I bought a 3-piece collapsible one from Arrowhead that deploys quickly when pulled from the pouch. My conversion is the large rifle magnum primer conversion on a CVA Apex done by Hankins. Encore barrel conversion was by Slufoot and 700ML was done by Cole at CMC Firearms. Nice to hear we are picking up at least a few in Indiana that are producing smokeless muzzleloaders. |
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Post by M4Madness on Dec 12, 2017 17:16:37 GMT -5
Mine is still brand new. Lol! My plan was to tag out before muzzleloader season so that I wouldn't have to buy a scope yet. I cut it too close, and wouldn't have been ready in time, so I took a buck on the last evening of gun season. Now I have all the time in the world to save up for a scope. Lol!
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Post by swilk on Dec 12, 2017 17:18:04 GMT -5
Smokeless isn't fool proof either....
I think if handled with the utmost care and attention to detail both smokeless and substitute inline guns (lit by 209's) will go bang every time without fail.
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Post by Woody Williams on Dec 12, 2017 18:24:08 GMT -5
Smokeless isn't fool proof either.... I think if handled with the utmost care and attention to detail both smokeless and substitute inline guns (lit by 209's) will go bang every time without fail. The last hang fire that I had was with a cap fired TC Hawken. My Omega goes bang every time.... |
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Post by M4Madness on Dec 12, 2017 19:21:03 GMT -5
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Post by huhwhatdeer on Dec 12, 2017 19:30:27 GMT -5
Ive never had my inline fail me yet. Thats all i use. Never seen the need for multiple shots so quickly
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Post by M4Madness on Dec 12, 2017 19:37:34 GMT -5
I decided to go smokeless for three reasons:
1. You can shoot it and put it in the safe uncleaned like a centerfire rifle and not have to worry about corrosion.
2. You can see if you hit a deer without waiting on the smoke to clear.
3. 2500 FPS seems to be the norm, and I've seen mention of at least one doing 4000 FPS.
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