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Post by schall53 on Dec 24, 2016 17:14:27 GMT -5
Head shots allow for very little meat waste Only problem with that is you don't get a good bleed. Had a buddy shoot an antelope years ago in the eye. When we butchered it, the meat was full of blood and slimy. He said it had an off taste also. Chest shot, good bleed. head shot little to no bleed.
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Post by Woody Williams on Dec 24, 2016 17:28:49 GMT -5
There was another hunting accident where the gun exploded in vigo county I never heard the cause of the explosion. Judging from the pictures I saw I suspect a healthy charge of smokeless. But that is just a guess. They says he was using powder dumped from a 20 gauge shotgun shell..
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Post by featherduster on Dec 24, 2016 17:32:53 GMT -5
Head shots allow for very little meat waste Only problem with that is you don't get a good bleed. Had a buddy shoot an antelope years ago in the eye. When we butchered it, the meat was full of blood and slimy. He said it had an off taste also. Chest shot, good bleed. head shot little to no bleed. If you don't get an accurate shot at the head you will most likely injure the deer and it will run off to die. I once saw a deer that had 3/4 of it's lower jaw missing and it was dying a slow and painful death. Head shots are a low margin shot whereas a double lung shot is a high margin shot with a better blood trail to track and as schall pointed out you will get a better bleed out. Ask yourself this if someone is going to shoot at you do you want a good accurate kill shot or a possible kill shot. We heard so many stories this fall from hunters shooting deer and loosing them not once but several times. PRACTICE MAKES PERFECT.
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Post by Woody Williams on Dec 24, 2016 17:53:35 GMT -5
Only problem with that is you don't get a good bleed. Had a buddy shoot an antelope years ago in the eye. When we butchered it, the meat was full of blood and slimy. He said it had an off taste also. Chest shot, good bleed. head shot little to no bleed. If you don't get an accurate shot at the head you will most likely injure the deer and it will run off to die. I once saw a deer that had 3/4 of it's lower jaw missing and it was dying a slow and painful death. Head shots are a low margin shot whereas a double lung shot is a high margin shot with a better blood trail to track and as schall pointed out you will get a better bleed out. Ask yourself this if someone is going to shoot at you do you want a good accurate kill shot or a possible kill shot. We heard so many stories this fall from hunters shooting deer and loosing them not once but several times. PRACTICE MAKES PERFECT.^^^^ This
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Post by M4Madness on Dec 24, 2016 18:11:20 GMT -5
I never heard the cause of the explosion. Judging from the pictures I saw I suspect a healthy charge of smokeless. But that is just a guess. They says he was using powder dumped from a 20 gauge shotgun shell.. Woody, you are confusing this year's incident with a previous one that occurred in Martin County.
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Post by nfalls116 on Dec 24, 2016 18:30:37 GMT -5
Practice makes perfect but I've yet to miss a deers head at 30 feet. I wouldn't try it at 70 or 80 yards unless I had a gun that shot extremely well at those ranges but I don't shoot deer that far anyway.
I never heard cause either but I assumed it was smokeless powder
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Post by Woody Williams on Dec 24, 2016 21:32:15 GMT -5
They says he was using powder dumped from a 20 gauge shotgun shell.. Woody, you are confusing this year's incident with a previous one that occurred in Martin County. Hmmmm.. I thought I read that on one of the DNR Facebook sites.. Maybe not..
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Post by M4Madness on Dec 24, 2016 21:48:29 GMT -5
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Post by Woody Williams on Dec 24, 2016 22:07:16 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure the one I read recently swas in Vigo county and it stated he used powder from a 20 gauge shotgun shell. I could be wrong..
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Post by M4Madness on Dec 24, 2016 22:36:24 GMT -5
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Post by deadeer on Dec 24, 2016 22:41:11 GMT -5
Head shots allow for very little meat waste Only problem with that is you don't get a good bleed. Had a buddy shoot an antelope years ago in the eye. When we butchered it, the meat was full of blood and slimy. He said it had an off taste also. Chest shot, good bleed. head shot little to no bleed. My deer always get hung head up to gut, then head down to drain for one to several days. Not always possible of course, but I dont hunt out of state or far away either. I have done this since butchering my own for about 13-14yrs with no issue. I kill most deer with neck, spine, and high shoulder shots. Just my experience.
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Post by omegahunter on Dec 24, 2016 23:04:58 GMT -5
Heart lung shots dont waste any meat Except for some of those precious ribs for stuffing in the smoker!
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Post by firstwd on Dec 25, 2016 7:58:15 GMT -5
That story is from this year, but the incident was a year or two ago.
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Post by nfalls116 on Dec 25, 2016 8:42:16 GMT -5
Last I check they didn't have an update on the reason as the boy couldn't talk. I assume because his jaw was broke and he couldn't talk through wire
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Post by esshup on Dec 25, 2016 10:58:24 GMT -5
In the links above, he poured in 75 grains of powder from 20 ga shotgun shells. No wonder it exploded.
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Dec 25, 2016 13:27:56 GMT -5
Head shots allow for very little meat waste Only problem with that is you don't get a good bleed. Had a buddy shoot an antelope years ago in the eye. When we butchered it, the meat was full of blood and slimy. He said it had an off taste also. Chest shot, good bleed. head shot little to no bleed. Good point shall. I was always afraid that I'd blow off the jaw and it would starve to death. Not sure I'd ever get good sleep if I did something like this.
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Post by freedomhunter on Dec 25, 2016 16:38:14 GMT -5
Only thing I shoot in the face are yotes
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Post by nfalls116 on Dec 25, 2016 17:47:16 GMT -5
In the links above, he poured in 75 grains of powder from 20 ga shotgun shells. No wonder it exploded. Yes no doubt! This was a separate incident in vigo county but I can only assume a similar reason for the accident
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Post by trapperdave on Dec 25, 2016 23:15:50 GMT -5
Smokeless powder in a muzzleloader....that will do it every time. Smh
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Post by esshup on Dec 26, 2016 9:37:17 GMT -5
Smokeless powder in a muzzleloader....that will do it every time. Smh In a muzzleloader that wasn't designed for it, I agree. Even using the wrong powder in a muzzleloader that was designed for it will create the same end result, just like using the wrong powder in a center fire rifle or pistol when you reload. There are some people that shouldn't reload, let alone own a gun.
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