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Post by nfalls116 on Dec 23, 2016 22:17:30 GMT -5
Head shots allow for very little meat waste You can't be off by a few inches when you are aiming between the eyes and still make contact that's correct
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Post by schoolmaster on Dec 23, 2016 22:34:59 GMT -5
Ok not arguing shot placement here. Every deer I have ever shoulder shot with pistol, HPR, PCR, shotgun, or muzzleloader has also caused some meat damage. the worst was a 12 ga. Brenneke slug. However ALL these deer were recovered and all the rest of the meat saved. I also have done more research and in the last 4 years in Wisconsin that annually sees 5-6 hundred thousand gun hunters in the field, there have been 2 fatalities. One due to mishandling a gun and one hit by a stray bullet. Now I am stepping down off of the soap box.
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Dec 23, 2016 22:39:24 GMT -5
I really don't think about meat loss, I just want that meat on the ground! I'll take what's left. I'm just easy, and thankful for what I get.
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Post by nfalls116 on Dec 23, 2016 22:49:09 GMT -5
There was another hunting accident where the gun exploded in vigo county
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Post by raymar on Dec 23, 2016 22:51:26 GMT -5
I do process my own but my best friend process over 600 hundred a year. The higher caliber HPR do a lot of damage to the loins even with a well placed shot. While a slug will to too, it is the splintering of the shoulder blades and energy dissipated that does most of the damage. A slug generally just blows thru with damage to the area shot not spread out as much. He had a lot of smaller deer that were no match for the higher caliber HPR. Just something he noticed this year.
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Dec 23, 2016 22:53:22 GMT -5
I like damage, so the whole thing doesn't run away. Now if I'm slaughtering a herd, I might be more concerned with how it meets it's fate.
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Dec 23, 2016 22:54:05 GMT -5
There was another hunting accident where the gun exploded in vigo county vigo ...that says it all
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Post by nfalls116 on Dec 23, 2016 22:55:52 GMT -5
It was a muzzleloader though
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Post by Jamie Brooks 1John5:13 on Dec 23, 2016 22:56:22 GMT -5
It was a muzzleloader though This actually does put a little fear in me.
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Post by nfalls116 on Dec 23, 2016 23:00:19 GMT -5
Still no hope deer hunting accidents that I've heard of yet though
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Post by deadeer on Dec 24, 2016 1:48:02 GMT -5
Well, if your first hpr kill explodes the shoulder splinters into other meat, you should learn to stay off the shoulder next time, or change bullets. I blew two shoulders with a 300wm and a Barnes 130gr going 3500fps on angled shots that were not intended for shoulders. Yes they disintegrated, but, it did not destroy any other meat. I butcher my own and experienced it first hand. I too, would be happy to sacrifice a shoulder to ensure recovery of entire deer. With that said, a heart/lung shot deer with hpr usually doesn't get too far either. Just saying.
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Post by trapperdave on Dec 24, 2016 10:29:25 GMT -5
Yup. Use the same shot placement you would with an arrow. No meat loss. No deer loss
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Post by budd on Dec 24, 2016 10:59:12 GMT -5
I do process my own but my best friend process over 600 hundred a year. The higher caliber HPR do a lot of damage to the loins even with a well placed shot. While a slug will to too, it is the splintering of the shoulder blades and energy dissipated that does most of the damage. A slug generally just blows thru with damage to the area shot not spread out as much. He had a lot of smaller deer that were no match for the higher caliber HPR. Just something he noticed this year. I don't do as many as your buddy, maybe average 100 head each season during rifle (bowhunting is about nonexistent in my area). I have found the bigger/heavier calibers do less damage then the smaller faster cartridges when shot through the lungs, but a smaller caliber usually destroys the near shoulder where as the bigger calibers destroy both. First question my family asks when one of us shoots a deer is where did you hit it..LOL. We have learned to stay away from the shoulders, in fact we push the limit shooting towards the back of the lungs.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2016 11:04:30 GMT -5
Yup. Use the same shot placement you would with an arrow. No meat loss. No deer loss 2nd that. None wasted this year on the doe.
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Post by Woody Williams on Dec 24, 2016 11:08:42 GMT -5
I do process my own but my best friend process over 600 hundred a year. The higher caliber HPR do a lot of damage to the loins even with a well placed shot. While a slug will to too, it is the splintering of the shoulder blades and energy dissipated that does most of the damage. A slug generally just blows thru with damage to the area shot not spread out as much. He had a lot of smaller deer that were no match for the higher caliber HPR. Just something he noticed this year. I don't do as many as your buddy, maybe average 100 head each season during rifle (bowhunting is about nonexistent in my area). I have found the bigger/heavier calibers do less damage then the smaller faster cartridges when shot through the lungs, but a smaller caliber usually destroys the near shoulder where as the bigger calibers destroy both. First question my family asks when one of us shoots a deer is where did you hit it..LOL. We have learned to stay away from the shoulders, in fact we push the limit shooting towards the back of the lungs. IF I am hunting close to the property line OR on a park hunt I'll shoot the shoulder every time. I want them dead right there..
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Post by stevein on Dec 24, 2016 11:29:53 GMT -5
There was another hunting accident where the gun exploded in vigo county I never heard the cause of the explosion. Judging from the pictures I saw I suspect a healthy charge of smokeless. But that is just a guess.
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Post by squirrelhunter on Dec 24, 2016 12:09:18 GMT -5
I've always aimed for right behind the shoulder or a couple times at the shoulder but this year I had to do something I've never done before,took a neck shot. He dropped where he stood and no meat loss .
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Post by js2397 on Dec 24, 2016 14:38:07 GMT -5
I always aim for the heart, and I've had plenty of success with little meat damage.
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Post by duff on Dec 24, 2016 16:44:25 GMT -5
I accidentally shot a sapling with a 243...devistating
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Post by esshup on Dec 24, 2016 17:10:30 GMT -5
I always try to balance minimizing meat loss to how far they will travel after being shot. Here's a doe from this year. She didn't take a step. That is the "out" side.
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