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Post by ms660 on Oct 28, 2016 12:13:37 GMT -5
I get why some hunters want to challenge themselves with traditional bows or muzzleloaders, or strictly bow hunt, but I've never understood why anyone would be against hunters using a legal piece of equipment that when compared to previous choices available are normally much easier to master and inherently more accurate for the task @ hand. Agree. I bet if you asked the Native Americans back 200 years ago if they would rather have a new Mathews or a stick and string we all know what the choice would have been.
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Post by jjas on Oct 28, 2016 12:48:54 GMT -5
I get why some hunters want to challenge themselves with traditional bows or muzzleloaders, or strictly bow hunt, but I've never understood why anyone would be against hunters using a legal piece of equipment that when compared to previous choices available are normally much easier to master and inherently more accurate for the task @ hand. I'm not against using HPR in Indiana. Just don't believe it is safe in all of Indiana. While I understand your concerns, I would rather have people use a more accurate piece of equipment. IMO, forcing them to use lesser equipment doesn't stop them from taking stupid shots. If anything, they just take less accurate, stupid shots that end up lord knows where.
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Post by bill9068 on Oct 28, 2016 14:10:16 GMT -5
I dont have any places to shoot farther than 200 yard's, but back in my USMC days I could shoot a group at 500 yards all day long with open sights. Once you learn good and safe gun handling techniques that stays with you. The biggest thing in HPR use is common sense. Seems to be in short supply these days.
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Post by salt on Oct 28, 2016 16:33:53 GMT -5
Do any of you have Amish that hunt around you?
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Post by span870 on Oct 28, 2016 16:34:28 GMT -5
We fear that which we don't understand.
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Post by span870 on Oct 28, 2016 16:38:05 GMT -5
Do any of you have Amish that hunt around you? Many around me, why? Let me guess it bothers you that they buy hunting licenses, follow game laws, and eat all that they kill? Is it that they can and will fill a quota set by the DNR based on their research and data?
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Post by salt on Oct 28, 2016 16:44:23 GMT -5
Do any of you have Amish that hunt around you? Many around me, why? Let me guess it bothers you that they buy hunting licenses, follow game laws, and eat all that they kill? Is it that they can and will fill a quota set by the DNR based on their research and data? How about this? I'll keep my opinions to myself. Obviously they aren't right because they aren't yours. KMA.
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Post by span870 on Oct 28, 2016 16:50:12 GMT -5
Well that escalated quickly.
Now I'm curious, what issue do you have with the Amish?
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Post by mkfrench on Oct 28, 2016 16:55:34 GMT -5
I say, revert back to shotgun slugs and muzzleloaders. I'm not against HPR'S, not for them either. I didn't see a problem with the way things were.
The same idiots that can't regularly kill a deer with a ML/Shotgun, will still not be regularly killing deer.
I say, keep hunting those big field's edges for the last 15-30 minutes of shooting light so you can take your 250-300 yard shots. I'll stay in the timber and those small fields(that my ML or a shotgun will easily shoot across) and use all the daylight during the rut.
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Post by tynimiller on Oct 28, 2016 16:56:37 GMT -5
Do any of you have Amish that hunt around you? Sure do, quite a bit actually.
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Post by M4Madness on Oct 28, 2016 17:14:36 GMT -5
I say, keep hunting those big field's edges for the last 15-30 minutes of shooting light so you can take your 250-300 yard shots. I'll stay in the timber and those small fields(that my ML or a shotgun will easily shoot across) and use all the daylight during the rut. I'm a timber sitter as well, and 100 yards would be a long shot for me, but I still plan to pack a HPR. I will be using a suppressed .308, something that I have always wanted to do. I've been able to hunt small game and varmints with suppressed rifles for a few years now, but until now, there weren't really any legal deer calibers that I could use a suppressor with, short of paying a huge fee to have someone manufacture a custom .357" one for me.
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Post by mkfrench on Oct 28, 2016 17:23:31 GMT -5
More power to you.
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Post by Woody Williams on Oct 28, 2016 17:25:20 GMT -5
Cmon guys...
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Post by sakorifle on Oct 28, 2016 17:29:53 GMT -5
i can only repeat that if hpr can be used all over the UK including Lincolnshire which is very flat and around cities without masses of accidents then i am sure it can be done over there. But we are not allowed slugs because they bounce all over the parish and we certainly never ever shoot up a tree with a 22 rimfire there is too many people and houses around one would kill or maim someone. And as i have said before on level ground the bullet will go to earth just behind the target every time. Regards Billy
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Post by M4Madness on Oct 28, 2016 17:38:19 GMT -5
I was just wondering recently what had happened to you, Billy.
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Post by greghopper on Oct 28, 2016 17:41:57 GMT -5
Many around me, why? Let me guess it bothers you that they buy hunting licenses, follow game laws, and eat all that they kill? Is it that they can and will fill a quota set by the DNR based on their research and data? How about this? I'll keep my opinions to myself. Obviously they aren't right because they aren't yours. KMA. Really??? KMA??? Grow up!!
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Post by bullseye69 on Oct 28, 2016 17:45:15 GMT -5
According to the 2016 Indiana Criminal Code Book: 35-42-2-2 Criminal Recklessness- (a) A person who recklessly, knowingly, or intentionally performs an act that creates a substantial risk of bodily injury to another person commits criminal recklessness. Except as provided in subsection (b), criminal recklessness is a Class B misdemeanor. (B) the offense of criminal recklessness as defined in subsection (a) is: (2) A Level 5 Felony if: (A) it is committed by shooting a firearm into an inhabited dwelling or other building or place where people are likely to gather. A Level 5 Felony is punishable 1-6 years incarceration and $10,000 fine. My house is 150 yards from a woods that is hunted during gun season. It is less than 100 yards from railroad tracks that regularly gets hunting traffic. I am nervous about the upcoming gun season. They could hit your house with a arrow. You have been in range for years. why get nervous now?
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Post by freedomhunter on Oct 28, 2016 18:17:48 GMT -5
Do any of you have Amish that hunt around you? Not anymore thank goodness
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Post by sakorifle on Oct 28, 2016 18:21:36 GMT -5
I was just wondering recently what had happened to you, Billy. just been having a bit of a rest but at it again on Tuesday doe season starts. Think i am ready now though, rifle all set up, a hundred rounds of copper sako ammo ready to do its job,just need a hundred targets to play ball lol After midnight here now so it is closing down time, good luck everyone. regrds Billy.
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Post by thebellcompany on Oct 28, 2016 19:33:56 GMT -5
I'm a bow hunter first off. I love the length of the season I love the thrill of the hunt. Some days I'm terrible at judging distance, I've shot at and completely missed a huge 8 pointer and a good sized doe on separate days. But it's still a thrill. That said, I support legal hunting 100% and although I hunt public land I'm thrilled to know that for 2 weeks per year guys can use a traditional rifle on their own property. God bless America!
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