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Post by salt on Sept 22, 2016 22:15:57 GMT -5
The forecast for northeast Indiana this weekend is calling for highs in the 80s and lows in the lower 60s. I will not be taking my children out for 2 reasons. Soccer.... and the fact that we have no way of saving the meat from spoiling. I have butchered quite a few deer. But it still takes me several hours. While the temps are going to be comfortable for kids to be out, they are not good for hunting. So what do you think? Is the current youth season best for introducing kids to deer hunting or should the state reconsider the dates of the youth season? How does it effect a kid if their deer spoils due to heat before it can be processed?
In comparison, below are dates of some other youth seasons.
Indiana: September 24-25
Ohio: November 19-20
Kentucky: October 8-9 & 12/31-1/1
Michigan: September 17-18
Illinois: October 8-10
Missouri: October 29-30 & November 25-27
Iowa: September 17-October 2
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Post by ukwil on Sept 22, 2016 23:22:35 GMT -5
Living in Ohio all I can say is the bow hunters cry like no other bc the kids are out there with a gun during the rut. I don't know how many times I've heard complaints from adults how it isn't fair that the kids might shoot one of "their" deer. I personally would like to see Indiana push it back to the last weekend of October or first weekend of November. Big Oaks always has their's in this time frame and the weather is fairly good and there's quite a bit of activity.
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Post by trapperdave on Sept 22, 2016 23:30:08 GMT -5
Why would it spoil? Shoot it, gut it, put a couple bags of ice in it and wrap in a tarp. Keep out of sun.
Done that to a few over the years killed in 80+ weather. You'd swear it had been in a fridge. Leave the hide ON to insulate from the heat and hold the cold in
Heck, they hunt antelope in hundred degree heat lol
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Post by (Not Ronald) Reagan on Sept 23, 2016 5:54:52 GMT -5
The forecast for northeast Indiana this weekend is calling for highs in the 80s and lows in the lower 60s. I will not be taking my children out for 2 reasons. Soccer.... and the fact that we have no way of saving the meat from spoiling. I have butchered quite a few deer. But it still takes me several hours. While the temps are going to be comfortable for kids to be out, they are not good for hunting. So what do you think? Is the current youth season best for introducing kids to deer hunting or should the state reconsider the dates of the youth season? How does it effect a kid if their deer spoils due to heat before it can be processed? In comparison, below are dates of some other youth seasons. Indiana: September 24-25 Ohio: November 19-20 Kentucky: October 8-9 & 12/31-1/1 Michigan: September 17-18 Illinois: October 8-10 Missouri: October 29-30 & November 25-27 Iowa: September 17-October 2 Honestly coming from a 16 year old, I think it should be last weekend in October when the pre-rut starts winding down, or the chase starts. It would be pretty good weather most likely, and increase the chances of seeing deer. Granted I don't care because I've been hunting a lot for 6 years, but it may help in getting kids to come back and do it again |
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Post by salt on Sept 23, 2016 6:21:44 GMT -5
Why would it spoil? Shoot it, gut it, put a couple bags of ice in it and wrap in a tarp. Keep out of sun. Done that to a few over the years killed in 80+ weather. You'd swear it had been in a fridge. Leave the hide ON to insulate from the heat and hold the cold in Heck, they hunt antelope in hundred degree heat lol Because in a perfect world the deer drops dead on site when you shoot it and there is a gas station with ice just around the corner. Sure Dave, it can end well with a quick retrieve, quick cool down, and a covered place to hang. But, all of us don't live in Mayberry! Lol |
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Post by featherduster on Sept 23, 2016 6:22:31 GMT -5
The forecast for northeast Indiana this weekend is calling for highs in the 80s and lows in the lower 60s. I will not be taking my children out for 2 reasons. Soccer.... and the fact that we have no way of saving the meat from spoiling. I have butchered quite a few deer. But it still takes me several hours. While the temps are going to be comfortable for kids to be out, they are not good for hunting. So what do you think? Is the current youth season best for introducing kids to deer hunting or should the state reconsider the dates of the youth season? How does it effect a kid if their deer spoils due to heat before it can be processed? In comparison, below are dates of some other youth seasons. Indiana: September 24-25 Ohio: November 19-20 Kentucky: October 8-9 & 12/31-1/1 Michigan: September 17-18 Illinois: October 8-10 Missouri: October 29-30 & November 25-27 Iowa: September 17-October 2 Honestly coming from a 16 year old, I think it should be last weekend in October when the pre-rut starts winding down, or the chase starts. It would be pretty good weather most likely, and increase the chances of seeing deer. Granted I don't care because I've been hunting a lot for 6 years, but it may help in getting kids to come back and do it again  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2016 6:33:45 GMT -5
Personally, I think they should get rid of the youth season and get rid of the regulations. More government bureaucracy. Let's go back to the self reliance years and let the parent(s) or legal guardian decide the best day(s) to go out during archery or gun season. How about bringing nature and being self sufficient back in the schools. The biggest issue on the lack of young hunters is not the seasons, but the regulations and the lack of education of the great outdoors.
It's great to see some schools have archery programs. Programs like that will help the cause verse the best dates. Trapperdave for the preservation on meat is right on.
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Post by greghopper on Sept 23, 2016 6:39:47 GMT -5
The forecast for northeast Indiana this weekend is calling for highs in the 80s and lows in the lower 60s. I will not be taking my children out for 2 reasons. Soccer.... and the fact that we have no way of saving the meat from spoiling. I have butchered quite a few deer. But it still takes me several hours. While the temps are going to be comfortable for kids to be out, they are not good for hunting. So what do you think? Is the current youth season best for introducing kids to deer hunting or should the state reconsider the dates of the youth season? How does it effect a kid if their deer spoils due to heat before it can be processed? In comparison, below are dates of some other youth seasons. Indiana: September 24-25 Ohio: November 19-20 Kentucky: October 8-9 & 12/31-1/1 Michigan: September 17-18 Illinois: October 8-10 Missouri: October 29-30 & November 25-27 Iowa: September 17-October 2 So what weekend do you want the BowHunter's of the state to give up..... They are the one that have the date at where it is now! BTW..... The meat will not spoil if you do your home work in advance of the hunt..... |
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Post by (Not Ronald) Reagan on Sept 23, 2016 6:42:18 GMT -5
Personally, I think they should get rid of the youth season and get rid of the regulations. More government bureaucracy. Let's go back to the self reliance years and let the parent(s) or legal guardian decide the best day(s) to go out during archery or gun season. How about bringing nature and being self sufficient back in the schools. The biggest issue on the lack of young hunters is not the seasons, but the regulations and the lack of education of the great outdoors. It's great to see some schools have archery programs. Programs like that will help the cause verse the best dates. Trapperdave for the preservation on meat is right on. Also right now, we're working on growing sporting clays and shotgun sports around the state, I think 3 have varsity teams up north. |
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Post by greghopper on Sept 23, 2016 6:49:35 GMT -5
Why would it spoil? Shoot it, gut it, put a couple bags of ice in it and wrap in a tarp. Keep out of sun. Done that to a few over the years killed in 80+ weather. You'd swear it had been in a fridge. Leave the hide ON to insulate from the heat and hold the cold in Heck, they hunt antelope in hundred degree heat lol Because in a perfect world the deer drops dead on site when you shoot it and there is a gas station with ice just around the corner. Sure Dave, it can end well with a quick retrieve, quick cool down, and a covered place to hang. But, all of us don't live in Mayberry! Lol It's has nothing to do with living in Mayberry .... SMH |
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Post by MuzzleLoader on Sept 23, 2016 6:55:32 GMT -5
I have never liked the date of Youth Season. Just to dang hot. I have access to several walk in coolers and still don't like to hunt in the early season.
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Post by medic22 on Sept 23, 2016 6:59:43 GMT -5
I never had a youth season and I turned out ok.
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Post by featherduster on Sept 23, 2016 7:41:14 GMT -5
I never had a youth season and I turned out ok. That's a matter of opinion. |
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Post by dbd870 on Sept 23, 2016 8:07:52 GMT -5
Been a complaint of mine; even a couple of weeks would help.
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Post by henson59 on Sept 23, 2016 8:14:23 GMT -5
[quote source="/post/478380/thread" timestamp="1474600557" So what weekend do you want the BowHunter's of the state to give up..... They are the one that have the date at where it is now! BTW..... The meat will not spoil if you do your home work in advance of the hunt..... Bow hunters don't have to give up a weekend in Illinois. We can still hunt if we wear orange. I would imagine if Indiana ever moved the youth season the same thing would happen since you can still bow hunt during the normal firearm season now. |
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Post by salt on Sept 23, 2016 8:29:19 GMT -5
Personally, I think they should get rid of the youth season and get rid of the regulations. More government bureaucracy. Let's go back to the self reliance years and let the parent(s) or legal guardian decide the best day(s) to go out during archery or gun season. How about bringing nature and being self sufficient back in the schools. The biggest issue on the lack of young hunters is not the seasons, but the regulations and the lack of education of the great outdoors. It's great to see some schools have archery programs. Programs like that will help the cause verse the best dates. Trapperdave for the preservation on meat is right on. So what you're saying, Wayne, is you are taking your kids out this weekend? |
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Post by salt on Sept 23, 2016 8:35:50 GMT -5
The forecast for northeast Indiana this weekend is calling for highs in the 80s and lows in the lower 60s. I will not be taking my children out for 2 reasons. Soccer.... and the fact that we have no way of saving the meat from spoiling. I have butchered quite a few deer. But it still takes me several hours. While the temps are going to be comfortable for kids to be out, they are not good for hunting. So what do you think? Is the current youth season best for introducing kids to deer hunting or should the state reconsider the dates of the youth season? How does it effect a kid if their deer spoils due to heat before it can be processed? In comparison, below are dates of some other youth seasons. Indiana: September 24-25 Ohio: November 19-20 Kentucky: October 8-9 & 12/31-1/1 Michigan: September 17-18 Illinois: October 8-10 Missouri: October 29-30 & November 25-27 Iowa: September 17-October 2 So what weekend do you want the BowHunter's of the state to give up..... They are the one that have the date at where it is now! BTW..... The meat will not spoil if you do your home work in advance of the hunt..... So my daughter shoots a deer on Sunday evening when it is 80 degrees. It doesn't drop in it's tracks like most deer you shoot do. We lose light and back out to be safe. Please tell me the proper technique to make sure the deer doesn't spoil over night? Low of 62 in Fort Wayne. |
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Post by salt on Sept 23, 2016 8:40:17 GMT -5
The forecast for northeast Indiana this weekend is calling for highs in the 80s and lows in the lower 60s. I will not be taking my children out for 2 reasons. Soccer.... and the fact that we have no way of saving the meat from spoiling. I have butchered quite a few deer. But it still takes me several hours. While the temps are going to be comfortable for kids to be out, they are not good for hunting. So what do you think? Is the current youth season best for introducing kids to deer hunting or should the state reconsider the dates of the youth season? How does it effect a kid if their deer spoils due to heat before it can be processed? In comparison, below are dates of some other youth seasons. Indiana: September 24-25 Ohio: November 19-20 Kentucky: October 8-9 & 12/31-1/1 Michigan: September 17-18 Illinois: October 8-10 Missouri: October 29-30 & November 25-27 Iowa: September 17-October 2 So what weekend do you want the BowHunter's of the state to give up..... They are the one that have the date at where it is now! BTW..... The meat will not spoil if you do your home work in advance of the hunt..... How about the 3rd or 4th weekend in October? BTW I am a bow hunter and willing to give up a weekend to hunt with my children. |
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Post by medic22 on Sept 23, 2016 8:52:11 GMT -5
I never had a youth season and I turned out ok. That's a matter of opinion. Lol |
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Post by Woody Williams on Sept 23, 2016 8:55:52 GMT -5
These dates go back when the DNR was proposing the youth season. The organized bowhunting group really did not want a youth season at all but were afraid they "would come off anti-youth. "
The compromise was OKed but not during archery season. Then we had another group pushing to not allow the kids to take a buck deer during the youth season. The convinced the DNR that landowners wouldn't allow kids to hunt their properties if a buck was allowed.
So between the two groups the kids got hot weather last weekend in September and antlerless only.
Since then we were able to convince the DNR to allow the kids to have the same opportunities as any other deet hunting group and take an antlered deer and the county limit. Maybe it's time to push for a better time to have the youth season?
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