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Post by 36fan on Nov 30, 2006 22:59:51 GMT -5
Excellent idea, but I think every one needs to keep in mind you can't run a business(the DNR) for very long with out making money. DNR is not a business - it is a government entity and does not function to make a profit. It exists to provide a public service. Tax money, federal grants (guess where they are funded from), and some private donations fund DNR. For arguments sake, consider the revenue collected from hunting and fishing licenses a tax on people who like to spend time outdoors. Their is a BIG difference between government entities and the private sector. To compare the management philosophies between the two would be like comparing apples to oranges.
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Post by dbd870 on Dec 1, 2006 4:45:24 GMT -5
Only a technicality.
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Post by cambygsp on Dec 1, 2006 6:20:38 GMT -5
government entities are a business....most of them loose money and we the customers (taxpayers) make up the loss!
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Post by greghopper on Dec 1, 2006 7:28:38 GMT -5
Really....
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Post by danf on Dec 1, 2006 20:13:07 GMT -5
I hadn't joined when this thread was around the first time. The subject is one that I have been thinking about bringing up though, but I was going to wait until next week after firearms season was over!
That being said, I've spent $128.75 on licenses/stamps this year alone to hunt deer and turkey and to fish. I'd be willing to pay upwards of $150 for an annual "Sportsmans License" just to avoid the gamble that I have to take when trying to buy appropriate deer tags. I bought 3 deer tags this year, and only have 1 of them filled at this point. If I don't get a buck tomorrow or Sunday, the DNR got $24 from me this year that didn't get spent well....
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Post by raporter on Dec 1, 2006 22:55:12 GMT -5
Looks like most agree a Sportsman's License is a good idea and now just need to know what WE are willing to pay. I only deer hunt now and this year only archery so one or two tags are all I need to be legal. Thing is I love to bow hunt and the time I get to spend doing that is worth much more than my required fees. Yes the DNR would come out ahead on me but I have to believe it would be money well spent. Shoot I might even take up squirrel hunting again and I am sure I would take an extra doe or two.
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Post by Decatur on Dec 6, 2006 7:39:47 GMT -5
What about a $60 comprehensive deer license? Good for two deer with only one being a buck(or 2 does). Covers all weapons/seasons.
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Post by kbacon on Dec 6, 2006 11:08:01 GMT -5
Well that doesn't make much sense.. considering that 2 tags only costs $48 right now.
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Post by Decatur on Dec 6, 2006 11:11:37 GMT -5
Why not? They would still be making a little more money ($12)from single season hunters, and it's pointless to charge too much more than that, because then it stops being any kind of a bargain, therefore pointless.
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Post by dec on Dec 6, 2006 14:02:11 GMT -5
Well that doesn't make much sense.. considering that 2 tags only costs $48 right now. Yes, but I see his point. He said "all weapons/seasons" A hunter that hunts bow/gun/ml is probably going to buy 4 tags at least, 3 bare minimum. An archery tag, a gun tag, and a ml or bonus tag. He probably won't fill all three or four, but might. Say he averages filling 2 tags, then he is money ahead buying the $60 tag. I see the logic. Not that it is the answer, but I can definitely see the logic. IMO, $150 range seems fair for an all inclusive license. I do have a LL and if not for that, I'd be buying every tag/license that Indiana offers, including a minimum of 5 deer tags, probably more. In a year, I'd spend easily $200 or more on Indiana licenses/stamps/tags. $150 sounds like a good deal. For those who don't hunt enough to justify $150, there is still the individual tag/license structure. I don't know what the best license/tag structure is, but I do know that something has to change. The regs can be confusing, the cost structure doesn't make sense, and it is all driving away hunters. I sure am glad I have the LL. Just grab my gear and hunt.
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Post by jbier22 on Dec 6, 2006 15:41:24 GMT -5
I agree, I could easily see paying $150 for the comprehensive tags. Being without the LL I have limited some of the hunting I do, or try because I do not have the extra cash to "test it out".
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Post by bschwein on Dec 7, 2006 10:14:59 GMT -5
Since I dont have my lifetime license either, I dont fill all my bonus tags. If I had one, I would and could with no problem. So i'm all for some sort of sportmans license. The state needs the doe herd reduced, and there not gettting my full help and i'm sure alot of people because i'm not shelling out the money to do it. So that could be a perk for "everyone" if a comprehensive license was made. The price would have to be a bargain or your defeating the purpose. IF they dont do this for heaven sakes drop the antlerless prices..and figure out a better buck tack structure.
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Post by Woody Williams on Dec 7, 2006 10:46:34 GMT -5
Since I dont have my lifetime license either, I dont fill all my bonus tags. If I had one, I would and could with no problem. So i'm all for some sort of sportmans license. The state needs the doe herd reduced, and there not gettting my full help and i'm sure alot of people because i'm not shelling out the money to do it. So that could be a perk for "everyone" if a comprehensive license was made. The price would have to be a bargain or your defeating the purpose. IF they dont do this for heaven sakes drop the antlerless prices..and figure out a better buck tack structure. I think that the IDNR has enough information to figure out where the break even and make money would be on the Yearly Sportsman's License.This is doable ( a number of states do ) and as you said it would get more does killed. The saving grace of the herd now is the large number (23,000+) Lifetime License holders, landowners, youth and militry that are taking quite a few (60%) of the antlerless deer. As with just about anything license wise this will have to go through the legislature. The INR can request it from them though. BTW - WELCOME to Hunting Indiana .
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Post by chicobrownbear on Dec 7, 2006 10:50:28 GMT -5
Since I dont have my lifetime license either, I dont fill all my bonus tags. If I had one, I would and could with no problem. So i'm all for some sort of sportmans license. The state needs the doe herd reduced, and there not gettting my full help and i'm sure alot of people because i'm not shelling out the money to do it. So that could be a perk for "everyone" if a comprehensive license was made. The price would have to be a bargain or your defeating the purpose. IF they dont do this for heaven sakes drop the antlerless prices..and figure out a better buck tack structure. I'm rowing the same boat you are. Well said. I couldn't afford the lifetime liscence.
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Post by elvis on Dec 7, 2006 10:57:04 GMT -5
I'd like to, but right now finances won't permit it.
Elvis.....out
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Post by kennie on Dec 7, 2006 14:54:39 GMT -5
so is this sportsmen tag even being looked at or is this just what every one would like to see?
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Post by Decatur on Dec 8, 2006 7:18:51 GMT -5
I'd like to, but right now finances won't permit it. Elvis.....out You do know they don't sell lifetimes anymore?
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Post by voodoofire1 on Dec 8, 2006 8:44:37 GMT -5
I like the Idea of a sportsmans license, it sounds like common sense to me, but I also know that with the dnr it's "come on cents". which do you think will come out on top?
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