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Post by Woody Williams on Jan 2, 2006 17:08:39 GMT -5
Didn't the state steal money from the lifetime license fund to pay for other things? Yeah, They bout RV 1 with it. Some of you really need to learn the fact before you type. The State did not steal from this Fund! He asked a question. He did not make a statement. You had a chance to educate here.
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Post by dmduck on Jan 2, 2006 17:33:59 GMT -5
Personnally think the idea blows chunks .... I don't deer hunt ....I don't turkey hunt ..... why in the world would I want to buy an all encampassing license with the over inflated price tag for something I don't do ?
I hunt/fish (combination license) , Trap , and get my State & Federal Waterfowl Stamp .... no need for all the extra hoopla ...there's enough of you chasing the World Class Deer Indiana produces ..... Turkey on the other hand is something I'd lke to get back into if life will quit throwing me curves during season ...... but I won't hold my breath so no need for that extra gunk either ......
Sorry ....not interested in the plan at all . I think the State would loose money not make any on the idea either ......
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Post by greenhunter111 on Jan 2, 2006 19:51:42 GMT -5
I think $100 dollars for a sportsman's annual license is reasonable and fair if one takes advantage of all the seasons available. I don't think very many will take all that many animals with it. As in other states, there should be some benefit to being a resident of the State like there is in other states. After all, its pretty much a given that we will be back next year and the next. Maybe the DNR should attempt to look at trimming some of their fat in their organization like other parts of state government have had to do? I'm sure there is some.
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Post by drs on Jan 3, 2006 7:32:30 GMT -5
You do still have the option to purchase a regular Hunting, Trapping, & Fishing License, as always been the case in the past, as long as I've been Hunting.
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Post by duff on Jan 3, 2006 7:56:31 GMT -5
Didn't the state steal money from the lifetime license fund to pay for other things? Yeah, They bout RV 1 with it. Some of you really need to learn the fact before you type. The State did not steal from this Fund! Bullwinkle, could you provide some sort of link or proof of that. I will look into it myself but would appreciate the help since you already know.
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Post by bullwinkle on Jan 3, 2006 13:06:13 GMT -5
Duff, It was a joke. Past IDNR surveys indicate deerhunters buy 2.5 deer licenses. So Woody's theory of increasing the consumption from one tag to buying more is invalid. If the much sought after buck tag is truely the way to increase funds then using free market economics we should increase the price of it. Perhaps sell a second one at a much higher price equal to the cost of a non-resident tag? I think the DNR may be interested.
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Post by Woody Williams on Jan 3, 2006 13:15:42 GMT -5
Duff, It was a joke. Past IDNR surveys indicate deerhunters buy 2.5 deer licenses. So Woody's theory of increasing the consumption from one tag to buying more is invalid. 2.5 times $24 is $60. Here we have a majority saying they would pay $100+ for a "Sportsman's License". That is $40 more, on an average, than the IDNR would get. KY sells a ton of them and they makes ends meet just fine. The only problem with that would be social. The ARFs and some non-hunters already believe that the IDNR is managing for targets for hunters. Now they will think that the IDNR is managing for trophy targets for hunters. That is also one of my concerns about the OBR.
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Post by Woody Williams on Jan 9, 2006 16:12:05 GMT -5
As of 1-09-2006 at 3:12pm CST the average was $108.22 with three people saying whatever the IDNR thinks is proper.
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Post by jdmiller on Jan 9, 2006 17:55:07 GMT -5
Guys.....I have never hunted Indiana and usually refrain from posting on such topics that deal with your license structure or regulations but from my perspective the "Sportsman License" is a good deal to the majority of hunters in Kentucky. It would be hard for me to believe the demographics of sportsmen would differ much from state to state. Most fish , hunt deer, turkey, waterfowl & small game hunt and do it with various methods. Why not combine all those things into one license and possibly save a little money to boot.
I know a lot of sportsmen may not participate in all that I mentioned but like myself....I dont waterfowl hunt ...however I'm still saving a little cash regardless. For Kentucky hunters .....being out $80.00 this year or $95.00 in 2007 is a bargain with all that it curtails. I think if a good package could be worked out and the price kept resonable.....you would be surprised how well it would go over........it has in my state. I think those that are opposed to it need to think about it and keep a open mind about it ......it may not benefit you but very well could benefit others.
Kentucky is going to offer a Sportsman Youth License in 2007 for a price of $25.00 .......youth hunting license...jr. deer tag...jr. turkey. This I believe is going to receive a lot of praise as well and in my opinion .....youth programs are the future for all states.
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Post by Woody Williams on Jan 9, 2006 18:01:00 GMT -5
Thanks for your input JD.
As you said not everyone would buy these licenses and it woudl by no menas replace any otyher licenses.
It would be in ADDITION to the present licenses.
The average amount of deer tags bought by deer htuners in this state are 2.5. So I would see where soem would be buying MORE and spending more this way and it wouldl save money for others.
Past the first tag it is all bonus tags from there on out. Since the IDNR is wanting to get the number of does down this would help.
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Post by dlawrence on Jan 9, 2006 23:12:38 GMT -5
I have a lifetime lisence. I save $150 on deer tags alone this year.
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Post by drs on Jan 10, 2006 7:17:44 GMT -5
I have a lifetime license. I save $150 on deer tags alone this year. ......While you saved money, the State lost money.
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Post by Woody Williams on Jan 10, 2006 8:46:54 GMT -5
I have a lifetime license. I save $150 on deer tags alone this year. ......While you saved money, the State lost money. They've still got it. They just can't get to it....yet.
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Post by lugnutz on Jan 15, 2006 1:03:52 GMT -5
I'd be in favor of it, less trips to walmart and less time me beating my head against the wall from trying to buy a license online. If this came into affect wouldn't the state make more money? I wouldn't normally buy a firearm tag if i killed a buck during bow season, and you wouldn't buy a turkey tag if you killed in the spring. Granted, it would probably cost us hunters more by purchasing this instead of buying them one at a time just for the reasons stated above. Besides, not all of us hunt for everything thats out their to be hunted (wish i had time to though).
Lug
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Post by joen on Jan 17, 2006 1:22:00 GMT -5
I saw that the state is proposing to bring back the LIFETIME LICENCE.
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Post by Woody Williams on Jan 17, 2006 7:30:29 GMT -5
I saw that the state is proposing to bring back the LIFETIME LICENCE. That is a politician (Russ Stillwell) proposing a bill to do that. I doubt that it will see the light of day since it wasn't 8 or 9 months ago when the axed the licenses.
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Post by drs on Jan 17, 2006 8:29:46 GMT -5
I saw that the state is proposing to bring back the LIFETIME LICENCE. I agree with Woody; "it will never see the light of day" It would be yet another stupid mistake (made again) if they reintroduce the Lifetime License.
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Post by LawrenceCoBowhunter on Nov 30, 2006 15:35:00 GMT -5
I haven't seen this thread in a while..I would like to see them bring LL back,I'd probably jump on it this time..
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Post by drs on Nov 30, 2006 15:41:22 GMT -5
I haven't seen this thread in a while..I would like to see them bring LL back,I'd probably jump on it this time.. Sorry, but this won't happen. The State lost way too much money the first time around. I doubt if they will make the same mistake.
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Post by racktracker on Nov 30, 2006 15:50:26 GMT -5
I haven't seen this thread in a while..I would like to see them bring LL back,I'd probably jump on it this time.. Sorry, but this won't happen. The State lost way too much money the first time around. I doubt if they will make the same mistake. BZZT!I think it is a great idea. There are numerous states that have a YEARLY sportsmen's type license. The DNR can run the numbers and make it worth their while. Being yearly is not a long term contract like they got into with the Lifetime Licenses.
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