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Post by DEERTRACKS on Dec 20, 2005 9:05:40 GMT -5
Sounds like a winner Woody! $100.00 works for me.
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Post by joen on Dec 20, 2005 9:06:53 GMT -5
Since the IDNR is for everyone in the state why not have a DNR tax of 10 dollars on every tax payer at the filing of state taxes? just an ideal. so dont get to excited.
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Post by birddog on Dec 20, 2005 9:16:30 GMT -5
I would like to see a chart showing exactly where "every" tax dollar that the IDNR goes to,not in percentages but actual dollars....then we can discuss the problem at hand.........
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Post by jrbhunter on Dec 20, 2005 9:35:19 GMT -5
I would like to see a chart showing exactly where "every" tax dollar that the IDNR goes to,not in percentages but actual dollars....then we can discuss the problem at hand......... LOL!!! One word, "Government"
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Post by kevin1 on Dec 20, 2005 10:44:30 GMT -5
Alabama Sportsman's LicenseIncludes state hunting, fresh and saltwater fishing, WMA, state waterfowl stamp and issuance fees. $58.50 An all game license is required for non-residents to hunt deer and/or turkey.
Kentucky Resident Sportsman (Includes Combination Hunting & Fishing License, Deer Permit, Spring Turkey Permit, Fall Archery Turkey Permit, Fall Firearm Turkey Permit, State Waterfowl Permit, Trout Permit) $117.50 Value 80.00
These are two of the many states that offer a sportsman's license , they also have an LL at considerably lower cost than ours . One state that I looked at , Virginia , even has a non-res LL , and it's only $250 at the high end .
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2005 10:50:18 GMT -5
Ky. doesn't have a LL, nor will they ever.
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Post by hoyt1166 on Dec 20, 2005 11:22:16 GMT -5
A quick Google search produced the following on the first page alone:
California has a Ll and varies with age but more species
Virginia has it and much less expensive than ours (Non-resident can get one for $500)
Florida has a LL and theirs was comparable to ours but includes a freshwater/saltwater fishing as well
Oklahoma has one and was less expensive than ours
Maine was limited to kids and seniors
NY has one and less expensive than ours
NH has one that was comparable to ours
NC has one at $500
Minnestoa has one that is comparable to ours
Georgia has a LL that is less than ours
Louisiana has one at $500
Mississippi has one comparable to ours
WV has one much less
Illinois has one as well
I guess the question that needs to be asked: If these states have one and it is profitable, why doesn't Indiana continue it and make it affordable OR is Indiana in the forefront of realizing it wasn't profitable and ahead of the other states? I guess we don't know the answer to that without the financial info of the DNR. I'd be interested in seeing the financial info of our DNR. I'd sure like to get involved on some level with making sure the voice of the regular hunter is heard by the powers that make decisions on our hunting heritage and such.
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Post by mbogo on Dec 20, 2005 12:45:14 GMT -5
Our state government "raided the cookie jar", so to speak, for a long time. The DNR, as one of the few departments that actually brings in some revenue from the state, was a favored source for these raids. That is what happened to much of the LL fund.
Also, remember that Indiana had/has landowner exemptions in addition to the Lifetime licenses.
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Post by hoyt1166 on Dec 20, 2005 13:03:28 GMT -5
Well then maybe we as hunters should lobby to bring back the LL when they lease the toll road. If they can take our natural resource money, we should take their toll road money
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Post by duff on Dec 20, 2005 13:25:22 GMT -5
Camby you forgot the state waterfowl tag, and if they are to include the fishing and trapping tags with the sportsman tag that is another lump of money.
I would think $200 would still be fair. Don't forget they would still offer the individual license for those that don't think they would get a fair deal out of it. It would be just like the lifetime, not everyone choose to participate.
For years I have wondered why Indiana doesn't offer a combo tag other then teh hunting/fishing tag.
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Post by Woody Williams on Dec 20, 2005 13:30:53 GMT -5
Camby you forgot the state waterfowl tag, and if they are to include the fishing and trapping tags with the sportsman tag that is another lump of money. I would think $200 would still be fair. Don't forget they would still offer the individual license for those that don't think they would get a fair deal out of it. It would be just like the lifetime, not everyone choose to participate. For years I have wondered why Indiana doesn't offer a combo tag other then teh hunting/fishing tag. True... this would be just another additional choice. This couldn't cover the "duck stamp" though as that is federal. The "Combo Tag" and/or an "either sex" firearm tag are other ideas that we should discuss further. We just kind of nibbled around the edges on those so far..
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Post by 10point on Dec 20, 2005 13:34:57 GMT -5
I would think $200 would still be fair. Don't forget they would still offer the individual license for those that don't think they would get a fair deal out of it. It would be just like the lifetime, not everyone choose to participate. I think you are to high by at least a $100. In PA I can get 3 deer tags that can be used throughtout the seasons, archery license, small game license and two turkey tags for less than $200 and that is the non-resident rate. I think hunters are paying for mismanagement in the state gov't.
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Post by cambygsp on Dec 20, 2005 14:19:55 GMT -5
You have to have a "waterfowl license"?
I thought you had to have the "federal" duck stamp, but I was not aware the state sold a waterfowl specific tag.
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Post by 10point on Dec 20, 2005 14:39:22 GMT -5
You have to have a "waterfowl license"? I thought you had to have the "federal" duck stamp, but I was not aware the state sold a waterfowl specific tag. Yes, they do sell an Indiana stamp. To hunt waterfowl you need the regular license and federal and Indiana stamps. Kind of pricey if you are just trying to convince someone to give it a try.
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Post by daworz on Dec 20, 2005 18:10:54 GMT -5
Amen! 10 point. I think hunters are paying for mismanagement in the state gov't. And what we say is'nt going to change a thing. What we are going to do is create people that wount buy a tag and will take a chance of not getting caught? You can take that too the bank, Its already being done, and you say put more Co's on with what money? I feel for the young hunters they are going too be forced to join a rich mans sport. I dont know the answer and i'll bet you half the politican dont even know theres a problem. Its all going to boil down to the almighty dollar. And from what i read on other sites (Kentucky) is having about the same problems it's barrley keeping it's head above water? Like it or not its here and we have to deal with it. I have a son that will be out of the youth licenes and me not having a LTL its going to affect my hunting? I dont care how much you give up. So someone higher up better come up with a idea and pretty fast.......
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Post by cambygsp on Dec 21, 2005 4:30:10 GMT -5
I looked at the license menu and can't seem to find a "state" duck stamp.
Can someone point it out for me?
Thanks!
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Post by cambygsp on Dec 21, 2005 7:04:43 GMT -5
FYI....
On Monday, I sent a e-mail to the IDNR requesting information about license revenue and how (& where) it is used.
I will share the information with you folks as soon as I get a reply.
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Post by hoyt1166 on Dec 21, 2005 7:42:16 GMT -5
FYI.... On Monday, I sent a e-mail to the IDNR requesting information about license revenue and how (& where) it is used. I will share the information with you folks as soon as I get a reply. Thanks Camby. It'll be interesting to see the response you get as well as the data that you'll hopefully receive.
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Post by kevin1 on Dec 21, 2005 7:59:21 GMT -5
Ky. doesn't have a LL, nor will they ever. I stand corrected , I was looking at several states at the time . Oops .
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