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Post by deweydutchmen on Jan 4, 2011 21:29:31 GMT -5
I am just stating what I consider the truth on some occasions. Take my dad for example. He is 66 years old and has bow hunted for 40 years. He has a bad shoulder and diabetes which caused a hemmorage in his dominate eye. Next year he is talking about hunting with a crossbow which I have absolutely no problem with but its the healthy 35 year old that has never bow hunted that will do it because that can now and the reason they didn't hunt with a compound is because they never took the time to learn how.
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Post by Decatur on Jan 4, 2011 21:32:43 GMT -5
That's their choice. I never took the time to learn to shoot a longbow good, so does that mean I shouldn't be allowed to use a compound?
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Post by Decatur on Jan 4, 2011 21:36:19 GMT -5
I realize crossbows are going to be louder than a vertical bow. I'm not a rookie. I was trying to ask him compared to OTHER crossbows, is it loud. I've heard some shot that sound like a car hood slamming.
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Post by thecommissioner on Jan 4, 2011 21:36:54 GMT -5
I am just stating what I consider the truth on some occasions. Take my dad for example. He is 66 years old and has bow hunted for 40 years. He has a bad shoulder and diabetes which caused a hemmorage in his dominate eye. Next year he is talking about hunting with a crossbow which I have absolutely no problem with but its the healthy 35 year old that has never bow hunted that will do it because that can now and the reason they didn't hunt with a compound is because they never took the time to learn how. So, you'd rather see the 35 year old stay on the couch and watch hunting shows on television rather than go hunting in October with a crossbow? Your attitude only makes sense to me if the 35 year old is hunting the same woodlot as you and threatens to bag the buck you've been watching.
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Post by deweydutchmen on Jan 4, 2011 21:38:09 GMT -5
That's their choice. I never took the time to learn to shoot a longbow good, so does that mean I shouldn't be allowed to use a compound? Hey you better be careful my family does alot of business with the lodge! If you don't start agreeing with me I will tell them to take their business elsewear!! haha just kidding. Its just my opinion. I love archery season and almost despise gun season so in my mind I think it will push archery season too close to being like gun season.
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Post by Decatur on Jan 4, 2011 21:40:56 GMT -5
;d
I used to feel the same way Dewey. I despised crossbows. Until I did some research and learned that they aren't that different than verticle bows, and have pros and cons like every weapon we choose. I know guys that hate compounds too, but they still congratulate their friends who are successful with compounds. Crossbows aren't evil, and as long as a guys is hunting with a legal weapon, why would I care what he kills his deer with?
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Post by deweydutchmen on Jan 4, 2011 21:53:09 GMT -5
Ok let me ask you a question. An adult doe is standing 20 yards away in your shooting lane. Which weapon is easier to get a shot off? a compound or a crossbow?
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Post by budfields on Jan 4, 2011 21:55:45 GMT -5
I use a crossbow NOT because I am lazy or do not want to dedicate the time involved to shoot a "vertical" bow. After some injuries and corrective surgeries, and the "aging factor," I am NO longer physically capable of manually drawing a bow and executing the shot process without enduring extensive pain. I was advised by my doctor and surgeons that IF I wished to remain active as an archery hunter to "consider" switching to a crossbow.
I NEVER had anything against a crossbow or the people that used them but I always said, "AS LONG AS I CAN DRAW A BOW BACK, I WILL HUNT WITH ONE." Little did I realize that someday, I would be faced with the decision of either swiching to a crossbow or leaving the sport that I have loved and enjoyed since 1964. I coul;d NOT enjoy shooting and having the pain. What kind of fun is that? I also did NOT want to risk making a bad shot or getting a bad hit on a deer so the decision became quite simple.
I get all kinds of remarks from other bowhunters about NOT being a TRUE BOWHUNTER but the crossbow has allowed me to remain able to hunt WITHOUT enduring the pain. I have hunted with crossbow now for three years and I have taken 8 whitetail using it, I would prefer to use the compund bow but can no longer do it. I say.. "USE WHATEVER WORKS FOR YOU" and forget about "bashing" someone else....
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Post by tjmurf on Jan 4, 2011 21:58:21 GMT -5
I have spent some very cold days in the woods with my bow. Being limited by the temperature, with cold muscles and bulky clothing in turn reducing my accuracy and time in the woods. With January being added to the season I may look at buying one for those very cold days. Just as the bows of past todays cross bows my have some shortcomings. The more states allowing them, the more people shoot them, the more cross bow makers will improve them just as compounds have been over the years.
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Post by Decatur on Jan 4, 2011 22:00:11 GMT -5
I usually draw while raising my bow, so samey same for me I guess. I've never hunted with a crossbow...yet.
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Post by deweydutchmen on Jan 4, 2011 22:03:34 GMT -5
I usually draw while raising my bow, so samey same for me I guess. I've never hunted with a crossbow...yet. but you have to draw right?
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Post by Woody Williams on Jan 4, 2011 22:05:47 GMT -5
Ok let me ask you a question. An adult doe is standing 20 yards away in your shooting lane. Which weapon is easier to get a shot off? a compound or a crossbow? In the hands of an experienced hunter they are basically equal. Put that deer directly behind the stand and the compound is MUCH easier as the crossbow horizontal limbs and string has a MAJOR conflict with the vertical tree. Dewey, I have hunted with recurves, compounds and crossbows. Belivieve me when I say there are advantages and disadvantages of each particular piece of archery equipment. BUT - we are OFF subject. This is not a compound versus crossbow thread. We can start one if yiou so desire.
The original poster asked a pertinent question of crossbowers. Lets stick to that subject ONLY.
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Post by hornharvester on Jan 4, 2011 22:54:31 GMT -5
Im almost 60 and got all kinds of things wrong with me. Ive had my back operated on 4 times, my left arm twice from two compound fractures of the elbow and now dealing with diabetes. My bow is a Mathews 60-70 lbs and ten years old. I found this year it is very difficult for me to draw and Ive got it backed down to just under 60 lbs. Im not going to spend the money on a new bow unless its a crossbow at my age. I can get a handi-cap permit but haven't and now with this new rule change I wont have too thanks to the DNR. h.h.
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Post by lugnutz on Jan 4, 2011 23:25:19 GMT -5
I realize crossbows are going to be louder than a vertical bow. I'm not a rookie. I was trying to ask him compared to OTHER crossbows, is it loud. I've heard some shot that sound like a car hood slamming. The Invader is quite loud, louder than most. If you remove the Accu draw, it quiets it down to a more respectable db.
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Post by whiteoak on Jan 5, 2011 0:23:22 GMT -5
Hey Whiteoak, is that Invader pretty loud? That's the one I've been doing the most research on. I put the Bowjax kit on it and cat whiskers on the string and it helped quite a bit on noise and vibration. At 310fps noise is not much a factor if you keep your shots within a reasonable distance I would think. I'm very happy with my Invader.
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Post by whiteoak on Jan 5, 2011 0:37:46 GMT -5
I realize crossbows are going to be louder than a vertical bow. I'm not a rookie. I was trying to ask him compared to OTHER crossbows, is it loud. I've heard some shot that sound like a car hood slamming. The Invader is quite loud, louder than most. If you remove the Accu draw, it quiets it down to a more respectable db. You really don't want to remove the accudraw. You may loose accuracy by removing it. I put an elastic band around my stock where the handles sit. It holds them tight against the stock and helped out a bunch. The band I used was off a head lamp light.
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Post by deerman on Jan 5, 2011 4:19:03 GMT -5
What ive found is that once crossbows are sighted they are much easier to be accurate with and require less practice shooting. My neighbor has limited movement due to a stroke and can still shoot his very accurately with no practice. Plus, even though we are totally different body types, I can still pick up his crossbow and shoot it very well. That's usually not true with a bow. I can see why a person new to hunting would choose to buy the crossbow over the compound, as well as the seasoned hunter wanting to make the switch.
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Post by DEERTRACKS on Jan 5, 2011 7:51:45 GMT -5
Bad shoulder.
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Post by Ahawkeye on Jan 5, 2011 8:26:44 GMT -5
I've never considered hunting with a cross bow till some one on this thread brought up the cold weather hunting w/ an x-bow. I may purchase one for that reason what about broad heads do you use the same kind as you would w/ a compound? are mechanicals used much?
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Post by bassrangerr81 on Jan 5, 2011 8:31:49 GMT -5
I am definitely all for hunters who are limited phsically to use crossbows. I only use archery. I have never hunted with a gun. I took my first 2 deer ever this year with archery. I also fish. And I can only assume that other fisherman do not catch more fish than me just because they may have different equipment or vice versa. To each his own! Noone would ever disagree that gun hunting is easier than archery. I guess I'm just glad we all have deer to take. I mean a few years or maybe more than a few, whitetail numbers were limited here. Now we have too many. That's a good problem to have!
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