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Post by Decatur on Jan 3, 2010 9:34:44 GMT -5
Aren't they SUPPOSED to look at your deer in Indiana and attach the metal tag themselves? I know they usually don't... but they are SUPPOSED to aren't they? Any word on the law results? Jabba Nope, the people running the check-in have no responsibilty to lay eyes, or put the tag on your deer.
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Post by whiteoak on Jan 3, 2010 14:05:33 GMT -5
I can't see a guy who poaches deer taking one to a check station. Unless KY has telcheck, but I still can not see a poacher doing the telcheck thing. Just my opinion. He shot the Deer after legal hunting hours during late Archery Season, with a rifle, then called it in to the Telecheck and reported it as an Archery kill. The problem is He's NOT a Bow Hunter. This IMHO is a flaw in the "Telecheck System". Is the reason that it was checked in was so that the poacher could get it processed by a processor? I'm sorry to say, but this may be a very hard case to prove, without the deer carcuss and the gun wound on it. Maybe the local CO can check with the local deer processors in your area, but I doubt they really check out what type of weapon took the deer. There is a big differance between and arrow and a bullet Maybe the carcus is still hanging. I do hope they nail this jerk.
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Post by Decatur on Jan 3, 2010 14:30:53 GMT -5
If he lives in the backwoods like Drs, I'm sure he probably butchered it himself.
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Post by tickman1961 on Jan 4, 2010 9:24:59 GMT -5
All the Kentucky CO's have is heresay concerning who drs suspects "might" have done it. No hard evidence, only suspicions and like the old saying goes, those who assume make an ass out of you and me...
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Post by Woody Williams on Jan 4, 2010 9:34:44 GMT -5
All the Kentucky CO's have is heresay concerning who drs suspects "might" have done it. No hard evidence, only suspicions and like the old saying goes, those who assume make an ass out of you and me... I agree... but a visit from the CO just might make the person a little bit afraid (if in fact he did do it). That can do two things: 1) Make him quit poaching 2) Make him do a better job of covering his tracks, next time. Hopefully when Indiana goes to TeleCheck they will have it where we can do a check ourselves on others. I can see that as a big help to the COs.
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Post by omegahunter on Jan 4, 2010 12:53:30 GMT -5
"Nope, the people running the check-in have no responsibilty to lay eyes, or put the tag on your deer."
That is not what I was told by my check station. They were to examine the animal and personally put the tag on.
Anyone know for sure?
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Post by Decatur on Jan 4, 2010 14:05:22 GMT -5
I work at a check station, and the check-in location does NOT have to lay eyes or put your tag on your deer. (i) After the checking station operator records the permanent seal number on the log and collects the upper portion of the license, where applicable, along with the temporary transportation tag, the hunter is provided with that seal. The seal must be affixed by the hunter and sealed to prevent its removal (without cutting the seal or the body part to which it is affixed), before processing of the deer begins, by affixing the seal: (1) between a tendon and bone; (2) through a section of skin or flesh; or (3) around a branched antler. (j) The checking station operator must accurately and legibly complete all forms provided by the department and must make those forms available to department personnel upon request. www.in.gov/dnr/lawenfor/www.in.gov/legislative/iac/title312.html
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Post by omegahunter on Jan 4, 2010 14:19:17 GMT -5
Thanks for posting up, Decatur.
Doesn't the tag have to accompany the meat while at the processor? That means they have to keep the antlers if tagged around a branched antler while processing doesn't it?
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Post by tickman1961 on Jan 4, 2010 14:59:07 GMT -5
Thanks for posting up, Decatur. Doesn't the tag have to accompany the meat while at the processor? That means they have to keep the antlers if tagged around a branched antler while processing doesn't it? The processor can remove the tag off the antler and place it with the finished meat...
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Post by Decatur on Jan 4, 2010 15:04:12 GMT -5
You are most welcome!
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Post by barton174 on Jan 4, 2010 17:32:55 GMT -5
I don't know about you, but a shot rings out around my house after dark (especially in the middle of nowhere), I kill the lights and arm myself... With a rifle, as well as the pistol I'm wearing anyway...
Mike
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Post by whiteoak on Jan 4, 2010 23:45:48 GMT -5
If he lives in the backwoods like Drs, I'm sure he probably butchered it himself. If that's the case' I'm sure he didn't bother to tel-check it in. Why would he?? Unless just maybe he's worried that someone did see him with a dead deer in his truck.
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Post by Decatur on Jan 4, 2010 23:50:13 GMT -5
That's what I figure, plus, it allows him to tell peole about his deer he shot without worry.
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Post by schall53 on Jan 5, 2010 8:43:56 GMT -5
He would have to be real brave or dumb to take a deer to a processor that was shot with a gun and try to say it was shot with a bow. The processor couldn't tell the difference?
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Post by drs on Jan 5, 2010 10:22:03 GMT -5
That's what I figure, plus, it allows him to tell people about his deer he shot without worry. This is what my Brother & I figured. HOWEVER He knows that we know the TRUE facts on his illegal Deer Harvest & Trespassing! Also I know he processes his own Deer.
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Post by tickman1961 on Jan 5, 2010 10:40:16 GMT -5
That's what I figure, plus, it allows him to tell people about his deer he shot without worry. This is what my Brother & I figured. HOWEVER He knows that we know the TRUE facts on his illegal Deer Harvest & Trespassing! Also I know he processes his own Deer. You have nothing but a bunch of heresay evidence about a maroon truck saw in the middle of a dark night by someone else.
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Post by barton174 on Jan 5, 2010 10:51:49 GMT -5
This is what my Brother & I figured. HOWEVER He knows that we know the TRUE facts on his illegal Deer Harvest & Trespassing! Also I know he processes his own Deer. You have nothing but a bunch of heresay evidence about a maroon truck saw in the middle of a dark night by someone else. This is true... However, they've also got a deer killed in late bow season by a guy who has told them he's not a bow hunter... Be careful, though, about letting this guy know you're onto him... That's a good way to have a "robbery gone bad" at your house... Mike
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Post by drs on Jan 5, 2010 11:09:14 GMT -5
This is true... However, they've also got a deer killed in late bow season by a guy who has told them he's not a bow hunter...Be careful, though, about letting this guy know you're onto him... That's a good way to have a "robbery gone bad" at your house... Mike Mike, we already believe he already aware that we know about his illegal kill. He is the type person who would be about the first to call us concerning the poaching. He hasn't contacted us todate, which is NOT like him. IF HE OR ANYONE tries to breakin our home, which there is either me or my Brother here at all times, then they will be met with force as we're armed & NOT afraid to protect ouselves. As a sidenote....In light of what happen no one will ever be allowed to hunt on our property forever.
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Post by racktracker on Jan 5, 2010 12:41:40 GMT -5
I think you are getting a bit paranoid on this. Take a word of advice, if you turned it over to the authorities then let it drop. Worrying like this isn't doing you any good at all.
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Post by racktracker on Jan 5, 2010 12:49:32 GMT -5
I work at a check station, and the check-in location does NOT have to lay eyes or put your tag on your deer. (i) After the checking station operator records the permanent seal number on the log and collects the upper portion of the license, where applicable, along with the temporary transportation tag, the hunter is provided with that seal. The seal must be affixed by the hunter and sealed to prevent its removal (without cutting the seal or the body part to which it is affixed), before processing of the deer begins, by affixing the seal: (1) between a tendon and bone; (2) through a section of skin or flesh; or (3) around a branched antler. (j) The checking station operator must accurately and legibly complete all forms provided by the department and must make those forms available to department personnel upon request. www.in.gov/dnr/lawenfor/www.in.gov/legislative/iac/title312.htmlMore. Deer Tagging and Checking Immediately upon killing a deer, the hunter must complete a tag on paper that states the hunter’s name, address, sex of the deer, and the day and month of the kill. A hunter is not required to place the tag on the deer while dragging it out of the field as long as the hunter has filled out and is carrying the required information. A hunter must maintain immediate custody of and visual contact with the deer carcass. The tag must be attached to the deer before the hunter leaves the deer or loads the deer in a vehicle. For a blank transportation tag, clip and use the tag at the top of this page, or go to wildlife.IN.gov and print the form. The person who takes the deer must cause the delivery of the deer to an official deer check station within 48 hours of the kill for registration. For a complete listing of check stations, see pages 32 to 37 of this guide or go to wildlife.IN.gov. Before leaving the check station, a permanent seal must be attached to the carcass. The permanent seal must remain attached until the carcass is placed in the custody of another person for processing or until the carcass has been processed and packaged. The deer head must remain attached to the carcass until the tag is attached and locked at the deer check station. The only time I've had a check station operator come out and look at my deer is when I told him it was a pretty good buck. About once every 5 or 6 years.
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