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Post by Woody Williams on Dec 2, 2007 7:15:16 GMT -5
IMHO....
In pointing out states that have have a good number of big bucks people tend to forget Kentucky which is producing more B & C deer per year than anyone.
Oh, they will point out that Kentucky is an OBR state but then shy away from that when it is pointed out by the opposition that Kentucky has a gun (rifle) season that is just as long as ours AND is timed by the KDF&WR to conicide with the rut.
Big buck proponents seem to pick and choose what big buck state that we want to copy according to what subject we are discussing.
Each state and the state hunters are different.
The herd should be managed for what is best for the resource AND also to allow as much hunter opportunity as possible.
From harvest numbers there is no doubt that the present system is not causing any harm to the resource. In fact we have an expanding herd and we are producing more and bigger bucks every year. Then why change it?
We need to get off this "we want to be like _________" (Fill in the blank with any state mentioned) and just go deer hunting..
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Post by freedomhunter on Dec 2, 2007 7:34:34 GMT -5
Split Indiana into thirds North-South and the South one-third can be just like Kentucky, rifles and all. The middle third could be managed like Illinois, and the North third like Iowa. Kentucky has no likeness (in terrain and population) to any place in IN except for the far South. I hunt in Kentucky. I'm confused as to why the admin. for this site goes to Illinois to kill a mature buck, why not someplace in Indiana that has not been hit by EHD? Most of the best trophy hunters that I know from Indiana do the same, though.
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Post by Woody Williams on Dec 2, 2007 7:59:20 GMT -5
........... I'm confused as to why the admin. for this site goes to Illinois to kill a mature buck, why not someplace in Indiana that has not been hit by EHD? Most of the best trophy hunters that I know from Indiana do the same, though. I hunt mature bucks wherever I get the opportunity to hunt them. Good huntable ground that produces mature bucks is hard to come by no matter which state it is in. If I had a back up spot for my EHD hit spot in Indiana I would most certainly be hunting it TOO. If Timex's properties had been in Indiana that is where I would have been. Mature bucks do not know state property lines and neither do I. I started hunting Illinois because my son hunts it and I enjoy hunting with my son. This is my first year ever for deer hunting in Illinois and I can not deny I have seen some very good bucks and will probably return next year. That does not mean I will abandon Indiana for Illinois.. One can hunt both, right? Please believe me I have killed my fair share of mature bucks in Indiana and God willing I will continue to do so...
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Post by duff on Dec 2, 2007 8:00:21 GMT -5
Split Indiana into thirds North-South and the South one-third can be just like Kentucky, rifles and all. The middle third could be managed like Illinois, and the North third like Iowa. Kentucky has no likeness (in terrain and population) to any place in IN except for the far South. I hunt in Kentucky. I'm confused as to why the admin. for this site goes to Illinois to kill a mature buck, why not someplace in Indiana that has not been hit by EHD? Most of the best trophy hunters that I know from Indiana do the same, though. I am confused why it matters where the admin of this site hunts anyways? Why does it matter??? I tell you what why don't we just keep Indiana set up exactly the way it is. Last I have heard Indiana is still in the top 10 out of 50 states for big deer based on record books anyways. That's in the top 20%. That is pretty good if you ask me.
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Post by freedomhunter on Dec 2, 2007 8:09:35 GMT -5
Thanks for the response, Woody. I hunt good ground in Central and Southern Indiana that holds mature bucks, also. I will be in Illinois next year! Congrats, again. Indiana is fine the way it is (long firearms seasons during the rut), just not much good trophy hunting, but that keeps the leasing out.
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Post by duff on Dec 2, 2007 9:03:11 GMT -5
just not much good trophy hunting, but that keeps the leasing out. Yea there hasn't been any eye popping, jaw dropping bucks killed this year in Indiana or posted on this board
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Post by deerman on Dec 2, 2007 10:10:58 GMT -5
just not much good trophy hunting, but that keeps the leasing out. Yea there hasn't been any eye popping, jaw dropping bucks killed this year in Indiana or posted on this board I guess some people think that if THEY dont kill the big bucks that there must be something wrong with the system. I hunt long and hard and pass up all little bucks on our property and still never shot a trophy buck. I know they are there and I see their tracks , rubs and scrape lines. If Good bucks are around , which any property with deer has a least some decent bucks, how can I or any one else say the gun season lenght has anything to do with me or them not killing one.
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Post by freedomhunter on Dec 2, 2007 10:35:38 GMT -5
I think the gun pressure during the rut makes them tougher to see during daylight, jmo. I hunt just as hard and as much, on good ground that holds mature bucks in Indiana, as most (and with others that do the same). I pass young bucks all year long until season is out. So I have a fairly educated opinion. I'm not trying to ruffle any feathers, here. I guess my final point is most in Indiana are happy with a smaller chance at mature bucks than neighboring states that manage for more opportunity, so be it. Some of the hunters like myself that I hunt with or know go to Illinois or Ohio for a realistic chance at a mature buck, if they have the money and get drawn.
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Post by mullis56 on Dec 2, 2007 21:26:19 GMT -5
DITTO...... I think the gun pressure during the rut makes them tougher to see during daylight, jmo. I hunt just as hard and as much, on good ground that holds mature bucks in Indiana, as most (and with others that do the same). I pass young bucks all year long until season is out. So I have a fairly educated opinion. I'm not trying to ruffle any feathers, here. I guess my final point is most in Indiana are happy with a smaller chance at mature bucks than neighboring states that manage for more opportunity, so be it. Some of the hunters like myself that I hunt with or know go to Illinois or Ohio for a realistic chance at a mature buck, if they have the money and get drawn.
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Post by deerman on Dec 2, 2007 23:07:47 GMT -5
DITTO...... I think the gun pressure during the rut makes them tougher to see during daylight, jmo. I hunt just as hard and as much, on good ground that holds mature bucks in Indiana, as most (and with others that do the same). I pass young bucks all year long until season is out. So I have a fairly educated opinion. I'm not trying to ruffle any feathers, here. I guess my final point is most in Indiana are happy with a smaller chance at mature bucks than neighboring states that manage for more opportunity, so be it. Some of the hunters like myself that I hunt with or know go to Illinois or Ohio for a realistic chance at a mature buck, if they have the money and get drawn. From my experience the biggest bucks are there feet during the last week of October through the second week of November. By the time gun season comes in the 3rd week alot of the does hav e already been bred, and alot of the day time movement of bucks slows down anyway . I have even noticed this in an urban area within city limits were there is no gun hunting.
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Post by kevin1 on Dec 3, 2007 8:08:16 GMT -5
We have way too many deer, especially does, lengthen the gun season to the end of January until the herd is under control again. Bow hunting just isn't doing the job by itself.
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Post by dbd870 on Dec 3, 2007 8:24:30 GMT -5
I have to say the board here is doing it's part for doe reduction.
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Post by Woody Williams on Dec 3, 2007 9:16:10 GMT -5
I have to say the board here is doing it's part for doe reduction. Big Time... same as last year.
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Post by hunterjosh8 on Dec 3, 2007 9:34:44 GMT -5
i think it should be a little longer
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Post by whiteoak on Dec 3, 2007 10:01:13 GMT -5
Why does everybody want to change things? Our season is great the way it is. Its very simple, if you want to shoot a Booner, don't shoot a 1-1/2 year old buck, but don't cry if you neighbor wants to shoot a basket rack 6 pointer. Hunt hard, but still be prepared to eat your buck tag. Believe me they don't taste all that bad. Raise a glass of your favorite beaverage and make a toast to next year and start munching. People who want to make a change all in the name of hanging a Booner on their wall----WHATS THE POINT?? Pay your dues hunt hard, your times a comming!! I'm still paying mine after 35 years and one of these days I hope to be paid up.
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Post by turkeyscout on Dec 3, 2007 14:32:51 GMT -5
well said whiteoak!!! turkey scout
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