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Post by Old Ironsights on Nov 27, 2007 21:50:56 GMT -5
Nah. I think the length is OK, but I would like to see an "any deer" tag and allow Does to be taken on FWAs during gun.
But then, I'm just a "brown & down" meat hunter who is annoyed at eating buck tags.
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Post by fullrut on Nov 27, 2007 22:50:37 GMT -5
Maybe we should do away with gun season altogether?
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Post by mrfixit on Nov 28, 2007 5:39:31 GMT -5
Maybe we should do away with gun season altogether? The perfect solution! Indiana would no doubt have the largest bucks in the world!! ;D
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Post by hoosiernavy29 on Nov 28, 2007 7:48:54 GMT -5
Our gun season is way way to long, and needs to be moved to mere the opening of Ohio's Gun Season and also shortened to Ill.
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Post by hoosbwhtr on Nov 28, 2007 8:06:02 GMT -5
Too long. Most of the deer are killed the first week. Move out of rut as Ohio, Illinois, Iowa. It works for them. My two cents worth.
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Post by muzzyman on Nov 28, 2007 8:21:53 GMT -5
I agree with most on here that it's way to long. Shorten the shotgun and keep the muzzleloader season as is.
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Post by Harley on Nov 28, 2007 9:13:57 GMT -5
I feel that firearm season is unfairly short considering how long archery and muzzleloader season is. Personally, I think there should just be one deer season and you should be able to choose what you would like to hunt with out of what is currently legal. I am a bowhunter but my main interests are firearms. I use the bow just to get me into the woods hunting a little more. Archery hunters already have an unfair advantage on time spent in the woods and I would really hate to see them take away more of the season from firearm hunters.
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Post by hoosbwhtr on Nov 28, 2007 9:41:40 GMT -5
The way I look at it is that I could choose to hunt firearms not muzzleloading season and be almost as successful as if I hunted all of the rest of the season. The bowhunters have given up a buck if they also firearm hunt so I am tired of reading that bowhunters have an unfair advantage. What has firearm hunters given up? Nothing.
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Post by Harley on Nov 28, 2007 9:47:48 GMT -5
The way I look at it is that I could choose to hunt firearms not muzzleloading season and be almost as successful as if I hunted all of the rest of the season. The bowhunters have given up a buck if they also firearm hunt so I am tired of reading that bowhunters have an unfair advantage. What has firearm hunters given up? Nothing. hoosbwhtr, you post makes no sense to me. I am speaking of time in the woods. Bowhunters do have an unfair advantage for time they are allowed in the woods. This is simple math that anyone can do. So bowhunters have given up a buck if they also firearm hunt but firearm hunters haven't gievn up a buck if they bowhunt too? As far as giving things up - I have no idea what your talking about.
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Post by danf on Nov 28, 2007 10:39:33 GMT -5
Does anyone ever wonder if forums based in Iowa, Illinios, Ohio, Kentucky, etc, ever mention "That's how they do it in Indiana, works for them"?? ;D
While the argument has *some* (but not really all that much) validity, you are really trying to compare apples to grapefruits and pomegranites most times. Wildlife managers in different states have different agendas and means to manage herds. Not to mention the terrain, population density (of both people and deer), etc, is different from state to state. There are MANY factors that play into the management of wildlife, and to simply compare one state to another just doesn't make sense. You guys might as well be comparing Indiana to Maine or California for all that it's worth.
As for me, I DO NOT want Indiana turning into Illinios. If you think leasing and outfitting is bad here at the moment, put us on a system like IL and see what happens... There's plenty of deer in Indiana at the moment, both large and small. What to change what you see in the woods? Start having conversations with hunters on adjacent property and change how the section or two around you is hunted and you will see results WAY before you will get results from state mandates....
Just my $.02 worth. Leave the seasons like they are, but change the license structure!
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Post by freedomhunter on Nov 28, 2007 11:17:55 GMT -5
I think Indiana would tend to be the new trophy spot, like Ohio, if the season structure mirrored Illinois or Ohio. Then it would run in cycles and new good areas would continue to pop up, like Illinois is now.
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Post by Old Ironsights on Nov 28, 2007 11:49:00 GMT -5
But some of us don't care about trophies. We want meat. If all your attention goes into growing and shooting Bucks, then you will, in very short order, have a massive deer overpopulation problem.
You've got to kill does to keep the population down. A decently long season gives BuckHunters the chance/time to kill some does as well as trying to find a Booner.
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Post by indianahick on Nov 28, 2007 14:02:37 GMT -5
Lordy Lordy I get tired of hearing about Illinois and their wonderful firearms seasons. Oh I do believe that they are in the rut too. Bow hunters keep on hunting there just like here. Oh yeah and you can get two (2) Bucks in Illinois.
Places like Fairbanks need to open up and allow bonus does, which in turn would help save some of the smaller bucks. Meat hunters like myself that are not enamored about antlers would much rather shoot a nice doe. Besides old bucks do not taste as good as young ones. Which in turn means that that guy that shot a 2.5 year old 160 lb buck got exactly what he wanted good lean tasty meat, he did not care if it had 6 points, 8 points or 200.
As for the person that stated you have to plan years in advance well there are just to many ambient factors of life that make that only a projection. Like this year, my son sold his house and is moving during firearms, then there are all of the companies that say no vacations after Oct. What you are going to quit your job just to go hunt?
If you are a bow hunter only you have almost 3 months to hunt, Hunt be happy. Most states have some form of a firearms season in some phase of the rut, whether it is in the chase, breeding or second.
Oh and for your record I have been bow hunting (including this year) for 37 years.
Quit whining just leave it alone and be happy and hunt.
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Post by Woody Williams on Nov 28, 2007 14:07:39 GMT -5
Lordy Lordy I get tired of hearing about Illinois and their wonderful firearms seasons. Oh I do believe that they are in the rut too. Bow hunters keep on hunting there just like here. Oh yeah and you can get two (2) Bucks in Illinois. And they both can be taken with a firearm too.
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Post by freedomhunter on Nov 28, 2007 14:33:16 GMT -5
I don't think anyone is really whining, it is a what if. I'm fine with the status quo, just have to look elsewhere for a decent shot at a big rack, or get lucky here. I kill 3 or more does a year, usually a couple with archery, so it is not all about antlers, and could care less about small bucks. Eat deer meat about every other meal. Obviously two schools of thought, and the state is with the old school, no worries.
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Post by duff on Nov 28, 2007 14:42:37 GMT -5
My school of thought is less restrictions = more opportunities
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Post by Woody Williams on Nov 28, 2007 15:20:34 GMT -5
My school of thought is less restrictions = more opportunities Mine too....
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Post by Harley on Nov 28, 2007 15:41:50 GMT -5
My school of thought is less restrictions = more opportunities Mine too.... I'm right there with ya boys! So when we gonna get started on the x-bow through-out all of archery?
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Post by savagehead on Nov 28, 2007 17:39:12 GMT -5
Our gun season is way way to long, and needs to be moved to mere the opening of Ohio's Gun Season and also shortened to Ill. You Sir,Get my vote!Our season is indeed to long.
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Post by Old Ironsights on Nov 28, 2007 17:53:26 GMT -5
I just re read the entire thread. I still don't understand why people want to shorten it.
Maybe someone could explain it to me.
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