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Post by pav on May 19, 2009 8:28:25 GMT -5
"when funding becomes available"
How can any capital spending venture, who's primary advantage is hunter convenience, be a "no brainer" when the funding source(s) has not been identified? I'd sure like to know what I'm giving up BEFORE commenting.
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Post by bschwein on May 19, 2009 8:36:14 GMT -5
I worked at a check station for 5 years. Very few people bought items while checking deer in. In fact during gun season, the people checking deer in were starting to interfere with the "paying" customers.
Theres no such place where I live.
You can publish all the stations you want, but if there not open after dark, it doesn't matter.
Telecheck will give alot more people more time in the field when the weather is not the best. After all, were suppose to be about promoting the sport and giving people more opportunties to get out and hunt. Telecheck will do just that.
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Post by js2397 on May 19, 2009 8:44:26 GMT -5
[ I don't want to come across the wrong way, but your opposed only because you like "seeing" deer at the check station? Your Kidding right? That is part of it but I also think we need to be seen as hunters. Where I live there are a lot of deer checked in and the road the check station is on receives a decent amount of traffic. I think by going to Telecheck less people see what we do and hunting becomes more of a secert society. I would think this might cause the nonhunters to forget about hunting and not care what type of laws are passed against hunting or guns.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2009 8:48:20 GMT -5
"when funding becomes available" How can any capital spending venture, who's primary advantage is hunter convenience, be a "no brainer" when the funding source(s) has not been identified? I'd sure like to know what I'm giving up BEFORE commenting. Funding WON"T be a problem, as Telechek will be saving money soon after creation. No check station cards to print up and no more paying a person to collect that data, it'll be instantly available and can be used ongoing through out the season. What your giving up is nothing that you personally will notice, except for a few gallons of gas hunting for a check station. On another note, a few people will always say that Telechek will help the poacher, wonder how they know?
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Post by Decatur on May 19, 2009 9:54:03 GMT -5
"when funding becomes available" How can any capital spending venture, who's primary advantage is hunter convenience, be a "no brainer" when the funding source(s) has not been identified? I'd sure like to know what I'm giving up BEFORE commenting. On another note, a few people will always say that Telechek will help the poacher, wonder how they know?[/b] It's called common sense! I sure don't appreciate being called a poacher!
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Post by indianahick on May 19, 2009 13:46:38 GMT -5
Me I flat out just don't care if it gets passed or not. My processor is my check station. If you go to a processor and they aren't a check station maybe you need to ask them why not? The only hunters that stand to gain anything at all are those that process their deer themselves.
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Post by Hoosier Hunter on May 19, 2009 14:48:38 GMT -5
On another note, a few people will always say that Telechek will help the poacher, wonder how they know? [/b] It's called common sense! I sure don't appreciate being called a poacher![/quote] Ahhh, he said a "few people" not all. We know you're one of good dudes
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Post by jkd on May 19, 2009 15:50:30 GMT -5
Gas Can - guess it depends on the type of check station... at Schwartz's Bait shop in Noblesville, folks were always grabbing some jerky and a drink... if the check station was a Rural King or Wal-Mart, then folks wouldn't necessarily be buying something incidental....
Same deal at the Shell station in Vevay... convenience store and hunters would grab a drink and check out the deer being brought in...
Guess it depends what is available in your locality...
BTW - Don't know if you're actually hunting in Jackson county, but they do list a processor/check in place...
Jackson
D/T Eagles Nest Brownstown US 50 in Brownstown (812)358-5249
T Family Drug Brownstown 810 W. Commerce (US 50) (812)358-4502
D Wilson’s Slaughtering and Processing Brownstown 324 Boles St. W of the high school off of Bridge St. (812)358-2632
D/T Bassmasters Seymour 1 mile W of I-65 on SR 50 (812)522-7501
D/T Ruckers Grocery Spraytown SR 58 (812)497-2146
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Post by Old Ironsights on May 19, 2009 15:54:46 GMT -5
Like I said last season... Don't knock Telecheck until you've tried to check a deer on Christmas Eve...
My comment is in.
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Post by racktracker on May 19, 2009 16:42:11 GMT -5
Like I said last season... Don't knock Telecheck until you've tried to check a deer on Christmas Eve... My comment is in. Christmas Eve? Any kin to this guy?
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Post by Old Ironsights on May 19, 2009 16:53:59 GMT -5
Maybe his momma...
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Post by Hoosier Hunter on May 19, 2009 17:26:57 GMT -5
Gas Can - guess it depends on the type of check station... at Schwartz's Bait shop in Noblesville, folks were always grabbing some jerky and a drink... if the check station was a Rural King or Wal-Mart, then folks wouldn't necessarily be buying something incidental.... Same deal at the Shell station in Vevay... convenience store and hunters would grab a drink and check out the deer being brought in... Guess it depends what is available in your locality... BTW - Don't know if you're actually hunting in Jackson county, but they do list a processor/check in place... Jackson D/T Eagles Nest Brownstown US 50 in Brownstown (812)358-5249 T Family Drug Brownstown 810 W. Commerce (US 50) (812)358-4502 D Wilson’s Slaughtering and Processing Brownstown 324 Boles St. W of the high school off of Bridge St. (812)358-2632 D/T Bassmasters Seymour 1 mile W of I-65 on SR 50 (812)522-7501 D/T Ruckers Grocery Spraytown SR 58 (812)497-2146I live about 15 minutes from Spraytown. Ruckers has been out of business for years. Was that info from the latest Guide?
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Post by jkd on May 19, 2009 18:03:35 GMT -5
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Post by jackc99 on May 19, 2009 18:11:22 GMT -5
As was discussed today the proposed Indiana telecheck would be a "telephone/web-based" system.
One of the most revealing stats quoted was that the cost of a telecheck system would be about the same as the other costs associated with today's paper check-in system (~ $0.75 per deer; $1 per turkey). Another statement that caught me was that the biologists and the law enforcement folks were in favor of telecheck. I need to get a copy of the report but I'm still on the fence. I will say that 3 people from the public spoke on this issue - 2 were neutral and 1 was against. If all you guys wanting this so bad you're going to have to show up to these meetings and make your feelings known.
HatchetJack
P.S. The Natural Resources Advisory Council will be holding hearings this summer on about 1000 suggestions received at DNR this past year (including telecheck). They have set aside an evening meeting in July to discuss nothing but deer hunting issues. Some of you may want to attend that meeting. I will post when and where as it becomes available.
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Post by HuntMeister on May 19, 2009 19:12:02 GMT -5
As was discussed today the proposed Indiana telecheck would be a "telephone/web-based" system. One of the most revealing stats quoted was that the cost of a telecheck system would be about the same as the other costs associated with today's paper check-in system (~ $0.75 per deer; $1 per turkey). Another statement that caught me was that the biologists and the law enforcement folks were in favor of telecheck. I need to get a copy of the report but I'm still on the fence. I will say that 3 people from the public spoke on this issue - 2 were neutral and 1 was against. If all you guys wanting this so bad you're going to have to show up to these meetings and make your feelings known. HatchetJack P.S. The Natural Resources Advisory Council will be holding hearings this summer on about 1000 suggestions received at DNR this past year (including telecheck). They have set aside an evening meeting in July to discuss nothing but deer hunting issues. Some of you may want to attend that meeting. I will post when and where as it becomes available. Thanks for the update Jack.
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Post by old3arrows on May 19, 2009 19:42:37 GMT -5
Jackc99, the bad thing about not attending the meetings is when they are scheduled. Most of us are working during the week and will tend not to burn a day of vacation unless it is a matter of extreme importance, ie, banning deer hunting or taking away our guns. I'm all in favor of telecheck, but I can still drive a few miles to check in a deer as well. I would rather spend my hard earned time off in the woods. Now for you retired folks, that's a different story!
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Post by racktracker on May 19, 2009 20:59:09 GMT -5
Jack,
Thanks for the update.
Why didn't I attend? It's a 5 hour round trip in the middle of a work week for me. Do they not take into account that some of us can't get there but we do give input by mail, phone calls and emails? By the way - Do you know what happened to meetings they used to hold all around the state?
Where does it go from here?
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Post by Woody Williams on May 19, 2009 21:47:09 GMT -5
Thanks Jack for filling us in on this..
I think that the "the cost of a telecheck system would be about the same as the other costs associated with today's paper check-in system (~ $0.75 per deer; $1 per turkey)" waylays a lot of dollar fears about this.
Nuff said.....
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Post by Woody Williams on May 19, 2009 21:53:01 GMT -5
Jack, Thanks for the update. Why didn't I attend? It's a 5 hour round trip in the middle of a work week for me. Do they not take into account that some of us can't get there but we do give input by mail, phone calls and emails? By the way - Do you know what happened to meetings they used to hold all around the state? Where does it go from here? RT, I've been told by a high ranking member of the NRC that phone calls, letters and emails count just as much as being there in person. Personally I think that an in person appeal could carry more weight. I could not make this meeting either for various reasons. One being like you, a 7 hour round trip.
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Post by jackc99 on May 19, 2009 21:55:21 GMT -5
Jack, Where does it go from here? It goes to the Natural Resources Advisory Council meeting tentively scheduled for some evening in July. Jack
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