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Post by Woody Williams on Jan 23, 2009 14:55:24 GMT -5
I can't answer the Poll because "high Fence" is not defined. If it means "buy a deer" then "no". If it means hunting where there are fences (as where I and others have described) - then I have to say, "yes", based on Intent. |
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Post by raporter on Jan 23, 2009 15:02:28 GMT -5
We haven't had a high fence thread in around a year; have to love the window between deer and turkey seasons! ;D Are you saying we are having hunting withdrawal?  |
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Post by dbd870 on Jan 23, 2009 15:37:47 GMT -5
We haven't had a high fence thread in around a year; have to love the window between deer and turkey seasons! ;D Are you saying we are having hunting withdrawal? Yep - it's a deadly time of year! ;D |
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Post by Woody Williams on Jan 23, 2009 15:49:38 GMT -5
;D Are you saying we are having hunting withdrawal? Yep - it's a deadly time of year! ;D |
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Post by gundude on Jan 23, 2009 16:26:35 GMT -5
Yea, Im gonna kill mine at Joes Turkey farm!
I think everybody knows how I feel about it.... I can't even believe that the words " High fence" and "hunting "are used in the same sentence!!!
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Post by tickman1961 on Jan 23, 2009 16:56:56 GMT -5
I will back anyone that takes game by any legal method - regardless whether it is something I would do or not.
Live and let live or become an enabler of the anti crowd who use words like, "high fence"; "baiting"; "fair chase", "suffering"; "animal rights" ..... there is still time.
The poll above is a perfect example of something that is used to divide our ranks and also something most here have never done but still have strong negative emotions about.
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Post by dadfsr on Jan 23, 2009 17:05:35 GMT -5
I will back anyone that takes game by any legal method - regardless whether it is something I would do or not. Live and let live or become an enabler of the anti crowd who use words like, "high fence"; "baiting"; "fair chase", "suffering"; "animal rights" ..... there is still time. The poll above is a perfect example of something that is used to divide our ranks and also something most here have never done but still have strong negative emotions about. I guess some hunters just have a higher ethical standard than "others"..... |
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Post by tickman1961 on Jan 23, 2009 17:16:20 GMT -5
Some people do not open their minds as well......
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Post by Woody Williams on Jan 23, 2009 17:24:13 GMT -5
AS OIS and myself have said the poll doesn't cover all aspects.
We need an "It depends" answer..
I'm sure that there are some high fences in Texas, as well as a few other states, that would be hard hunt and thus a fair chase for any hunter.
I've bowhunted a 1,000 acre plot in Colorado that had a three strand barbed wire around it. Not game proof by any reasoning. I saw the fence twice in a full day of hard hunting. The last time was on our purpose to follow it back to the gate for my ride back to camp.
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Post by steiny on Jan 23, 2009 17:48:35 GMT -5
Disco - Never heard how that hunt you won last fall worked out. What's the story on that?
Regarding high fence hunting ...... If you don't like it, don't do it. And I'd agree put and take bird hunting and pay lake fishing are pretty similar. We don't need laws outlawing any of these activites. They aren't hurting anything.
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Post by freedomhunter on Jan 23, 2009 17:53:15 GMT -5
Some outfits are better than others. I've seen it done right and it is just like normal hunting, except there is more control over the deer herd, obviously the main reason for the high fence. Still not my thing.
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Post by discgolf94 on Jan 23, 2009 18:07:13 GMT -5
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Post by dadfsr on Jan 23, 2009 18:08:02 GMT -5
Some people do not open their minds as well...... I wonder where we would be today if our forefathers had opened their minds on the taxation issue...... oh that's right they don't have private ownership of guns over there do they?  but I'm sure they were determined to keep an open mind about it, until it was too late. |
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Post by treetop on Jan 23, 2009 18:27:46 GMT -5
Myself
People hunt over bait piles is this hunting? Depends on were you grew up at to some very much so, But its not for me but its legal
People use dogs is this hunting? again if you grew up in the south very much so again its not for me but its legal
I have done the bird hunts as some others on here but the birds we were after flew maybe not as much as a wild bird but it was harder than you would think the owners of the club said the birds never see people they get feed and cleaned at night with little to no light was this hunting not as much but it was fun and I knew it going in. But its legal
A few years ago I went with a friend and his boy to a high fence hunt for hogs in TN the area they had was 1200 acre's I will tell yes I did get a hog we did the spot and stalk but it was a very hard hunting these pigs by no means were they drugged or tame we had one charge us I could see one not getting a hog in a day yes you are going to get one but again it was a long hard day.
Legal yes fun yes and yes I would try it again.
Would I hunt a 50 acres high fence area no I would not but its legal and some one is taking care of there family and more than likely a few family's income so be it.
And for those people who say a guided hunt is the same just show up and kill stop watching TV maybe they should talk to a few of the guys that came home with out a deer or elk yes some hunts are that way but most of the guys I know say its far from that and you do have to work hard and hunt hard for a cance at getting game your just hunting with some one that knows the land and there area.
Regladless we as hunters need to stay together that kind of hunting may not be your liking but we cant afford any loss or gave the antis any more fuel for there fight.
Sorry its so long
Dave
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Post by HuntMeister on Jan 23, 2009 20:46:01 GMT -5
I can't answer the Poll because "high Fence" is not defined. If it means "buy a deer" then "no". If it means hunting where there are fences (as where I and others have described) - then I have to say, "yes", based on Intent. +2 Please define high fence |
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Post by discgolf94 on Jan 23, 2009 21:24:23 GMT -5
A high fence would be a fence were animals couldn't get out of there trapped.
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Post by raporter on Jan 23, 2009 22:05:53 GMT -5
One big reason for me why some of the big ranches are different is the deer are conceived, born and mature on that land.
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Post by discgolf94 on Jan 24, 2009 11:10:51 GMT -5
So far what i gather is most people do care for this type of hunting and would never be a part of high fence hunting. But when i comes to our GOV. we will just suck it up and claim it to protect out hunting right. Im i on the same page with a few of you?
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Post by Ahawkeye on Jan 24, 2009 13:50:59 GMT -5
"Phesants" can fly, penned deer can't. I've been to these "put and take" phesant hunts and i'll tell you first hand, 99% of the birds have to be physicaly kicked or thrown into the air for a flush. If you can't hit one of those birds you don't need to be behind a shotgun. So, if ya want to do away with deer hunting facilities ya better be in favor of doing away with phesant,quail,and chukar hunting facilities. "I went to one such hunt at Glendale. The birds would not fly very much. I killed a rooster that someone else about 200 yards away flushed and it flew by me. I shot it passing by. The hen I killed never did run. I tried to get it to flush three different times. I finally just shot it running like a rabbit. I was making meat and that is about all I can say about it. I never went back for seconds. I'm sure some put and takes might be better than that though..." I have to disagree, my hunts at Glendale have been pretty good, sure you can find a bird that won't fly but you can also keep hunting and walking to find one that will flush. I think the folks at Glendale do a fine job. If you think about the money that it takes to run that place vs the amount of man power they have I'd give those people a 10 every day. The put and take is all in what you make it, if you shoot that "lame" bird you're right it doesn't feel very sporting but you don't have to shoot it you could keep hunting. As far as the high fence, no I do not think it's a good thing and I feel these guys should be out of business. JMHO |
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Post by rivrbottmstalkr on Jan 25, 2009 1:10:51 GMT -5
This type of thing is all business to the owners and operators of these types of places, ranches, farms, or whatever you call them. And that's what business is all about- finding a demand and filling it. And there is obviously a demand out there for it. Whether it is right or wrong is irrelivant as long as no laws are being broken. Laws and ethics are two total different things. I personally don't agree with it but that's my opinion and we all know what opinions are like. I just think that the more we as hunters slam this sort of thing with major negativity, the more fuel we add to the antis fire. Just my two cents.
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but I'm sure they were determined to keep an open mind about it, until it was too late.
