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Post by Woody Williams on Apr 25, 2017 19:10:36 GMT -5
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Post by nfalls116 on Apr 25, 2017 20:40:21 GMT -5
I think helmets should be required and enforced especially on open top atv
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2017 20:59:56 GMT -5
Why discriminate 18 and younger? It should be for none or all. Same for motorcycles.
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Post by greghopper on Apr 25, 2017 21:52:04 GMT -5
Why discriminate 18 and younger? It should be for none or all. Same for motorcycles. The Day everyone required to wear a helmet why on a motorcycle will be the Day everyone is required to wear a safety harness when stand hunting! |
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Post by firstwd on Apr 26, 2017 19:31:32 GMT -5
Why discriminate 18 and younger? It should be for none or all. Same for motorcycles. This law is exactly like the helmet law for motorcycles. 18 was chosen because it is considered the age or majority. Well, 18 is considered the age of majority for most things. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2017 20:20:12 GMT -5
Why discriminate 18 and younger? It should be for none or all. Same for motorcycles. This law is exactly like the helmet law for motorcycles. 18 was chosen because it is considered the age or majority. Well, 18 is considered the age of majority for most things. Big difference. ATV are not allowed on public streets, most of them. This is another big brother law against private property owners. They or any state does not have the right to pass laws for non public land. Laws like that needs to be removed from the books or stated on public streets only. I'm all for safety, but not big government telling me what I can or can't do. |
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Post by firstwd on Apr 26, 2017 20:31:47 GMT -5
This law is exactly like the helmet law for motorcycles. 18 was chosen because it is considered the age or majority. Well, 18 is considered the age of majority for most things. Big difference. ATV are not allowed on public streets, most of them. This is another big brother law against private property owners. They or any state does not have the right to pass laws for non public land. Laws like that needs to be removed from the books or stated on public streets only. I'm all for safety, but not big government telling me what I can or can't do. Actually, must counties allow ATV use on the roadways by licensed drivers. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2017 20:40:53 GMT -5
Big difference. ATV are not allowed on public streets, most of them. This is another big brother law against private property owners. They or any state does not have the right to pass laws for non public land. Laws like that needs to be removed from the books or stated on public streets only. I'm all for safety, but not big government telling me what I can or can't do. Actually, must counties allow ATV use on the roadways by licensed drivers. Does the law state on public roads and or exclude use on private property? |
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Post by firstwd on Apr 26, 2017 20:55:32 GMT -5
Actually, must counties allow ATV use on the roadways by licensed drivers. Does the law state on public roads and or exclude use on private property? Nope, but all the kids that keep getting severely injured and killed lately haven't been on the public roadway either. Hey, did you know you can get arrested for OWI on private property - even on a lawnmower? |
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Post by greghopper on Apr 26, 2017 21:00:23 GMT -5
lol...
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Post by nfalls116 on Apr 26, 2017 21:05:52 GMT -5
I agree @waynes I feel like if I want to shoot guns in my back yard I should be able to! The man is keeping me down though.
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Post by lawrencecountyhunter on Apr 27, 2017 6:01:53 GMT -5
I think it's generally a good thing, similar to kids wearing life vests on boats. By the time you're 18 though, you're old enough to weigh the risks and make up your own mind. I feel the same about seat belt laws.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2017 6:59:38 GMT -5
I'm just saying there are a lot of bad laws in this country that does not separate public from private property. I'm 100% for safety, but I respect the landowner to be able to protect his way of life. Yes, if careless on safety, then it's their issue, not all the other landowners etc.
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Post by esshup on May 9, 2017 19:25:43 GMT -5
Waynes, I agree with you but with one difference (or maybe no difference at all since you haven't voiced your opinion on what I'm about to say).
It's a proven fact that helmets reduce the risk of a head injury if worn. That's a given. I feel that if a person is not wearing a helmet and gets a head injury, then their insurance shouldn't cover their head injuries. Only covered by insurance for head injuries if wearing a helmet. Would the insurance rates go down a bit then?
I wear my seatbelt 99.9999% of the time while driving. I absolutely hate the dang seatbelt warning buzzer that keeps on chiming. Sure, ding a few times but after a minute, shut up. There's plenty of times that I'm only going a few hundred feet and the thing just won't shut up.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2017 6:45:58 GMT -5
Waynes, I agree with you but with one difference (or maybe no difference at all since you haven't voiced your opinion on what I'm about to say). It's a proven fact that helmets reduce the risk of a head injury if worn. That's a given. I feel that if a person is not wearing a helmet and gets a head injury, then their insurance shouldn't cover their head injuries. Only covered by insurance for head injuries if wearing a helmet. Would the insurance rates go down a bit then? I wear my seatbelt 99.9999% of the time while driving. I absolutely hate the dang seatbelt warning buzzer that keeps on chiming. Sure, ding a few times but after a minute, shut up. There's plenty of times that I'm only going a few hundred feet and the thing just won't shut up. I was just stating the laws are created and sometimes discriminate by age and between public/private property. I should be able to walk on my property without wearing a helmet as an example, but walking in public may require helmets. So next year they pass a law requiring that you have to wear a helmet when walking. When will big brother stop telling us what we can or can't do. I'm wiser then the average bear. LOL |
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Post by medic22 on May 10, 2017 15:05:05 GMT -5
This short version of why this law came into effect is this.
Parents let young daughter hang out a friends house. Parents of friend allow girls to ride ATV without a helmet. Girl dies when ATV rolls. Parents start a group to preach the obvious.
I dont agree with laws like this, but they do save tax payers millions of dollars a year, just like seat belt laws.
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Post by greghopper on May 10, 2017 15:19:43 GMT -5
When does the actual law take effect?
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Post by cedarthicket on May 10, 2017 15:23:05 GMT -5
July 1, 2017 per link in original post.
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Post by featherduster on May 11, 2017 5:06:43 GMT -5
A good law for stupid parents.
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Post by GS1 on May 11, 2017 7:05:08 GMT -5
This short version of why this law came into effect is this. Parents let young daughter hang out a friends house. Parents of friend allow girls to ride ATV without a helmet. Girl dies when ATV rolls. Parents start a group to preach the obvious. I dont agree with laws like this, but they do save tax payers millions of dollars a year, just like seat belt laws. That was the start of it. The rest of it is the fact that, as you know, there are ATV accidents involving kids every single weekend. Some days multiple accidents. |
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