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Post by esshup on Feb 15, 2016 20:11:12 GMT -5
Disagree. When people set themselves in a position that 90 percent of deer shot by them will end up on my property to harvest I find an issue with that. I would spend every opening weekend walking them around my property instead of hunting. That's really, really easy to fix. Talk to the neighbor and tell him that nobody can retrieve their deer on your property without you accompanying them, and if you are hunting you won't be out of the woods until after dark. Then have the local CO on speed dial and call if they don't follow the rule. Make an example out of one and the rest should get the idea..... That is if trespassing onto your property to retrieve a deer is what is disrupting your hunt. What's to stop the neighbor from putting up tripod box blinds 51 yds from the property line? With any of the Indiana legal (now) firearms and newer muzzleloaders, 50 yds won't limit them from shooting towards deer that are between them and your property. If you are on the ground hunting with your kids, safety wise, I'd rather have the treestands on the property line to minimize any projectiles entering the property. If it's that they are shooting deer that you would really not see be shot, then that's another story.
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Post by hubcap72 on Feb 15, 2016 20:11:45 GMT -5
I appreciate your opinions that's why I ask. We all have different circumstances and I was curious how many others were frustrated by crowding neighbors. I guess I'll just place a stand for stand to keep them honest:)
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Post by hubcap72 on Feb 15, 2016 20:17:01 GMT -5
And to make it clear you can still hunt every inch of your property. YOUR PROPERTY. That's my point.
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Post by freedomhunter on Feb 15, 2016 20:27:09 GMT -5
I could write a book. I usually just leave a note that their stand is being monitored by hidden trail cams on my side of the fence. Also, an across the fence exchange of pleasantries of what will happen to them if I catch them usually works well. Would you be trespassing when you leave a note on there stand? I leave it on the fence. You got a problem with me take it to pm and I can help you with a solution
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Post by hornzilla on Feb 16, 2016 6:52:40 GMT -5
Would you be trespassing when you leave a note on there stand? I leave it on the fence. You got a problem with me take it to pm and I can help you with a solution No pm needed. You said plenty in your last post. Glad to see you agree with me about not trespassing while leaving a note. It opens the door to unfriendly neighbor's. Have a great day.
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Post by steiny on Feb 16, 2016 7:49:00 GMT -5
Many of us deal with this same problem, but I don't think any new laws are warranted. Several things you can do:
1. Post a sign clearly visible right in front of the stand that says; no trespassing, no shooting across line, and no trailing of wounded game without permission. 2. Put up a blocker stand right on your side of the line and hunt it periodically to keep tabs on things. 3. Manipulate the habitat to make it less likely that deer travel or cross within range of his stand. This can be accomplished via; clearing, hinge cutting, piling brush, etc. 4. An extreme solution but perfectly legal would be a 6' to 8' tall deer proof fence along the line of a troublesome neighbor.
If you have good ground, you will always have neighbors on less desirable ground trying to take advantage of deer entering or leaving your place. Some habitat consultants recommend that you maintain a wide open trail around the perimeter of your property, and you only hunt stands on the outside edges, leaving the interior as sanctuary.
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Post by dbd870 on Feb 16, 2016 8:09:48 GMT -5
Made the edits, now just like the other thread keep it civil.
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Post by hubcap72 on Feb 16, 2016 9:20:45 GMT -5
Best reply I've received Steiny. thank you for understanding my dilemma.
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Post by tynimiller on Feb 16, 2016 9:49:13 GMT -5
Bahaha...he said everything I did already.
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Post by hubcap72 on Feb 16, 2016 10:30:25 GMT -5
I thought the fence was nice touch. Lol
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Post by chewbacca on Feb 18, 2016 13:31:31 GMT -5
Disagree. When people set themselves in a position that 90 percent of deer shot by them will end up on my property to harvest I find an issue with that. I would spend every opening weekend walking them around my property instead of hunting. ...and by doing that you would be creating a friendship instead of being enemies. By creating a friendship it will make hunting much more enjoyable for you. It's miserable to hunt next to someone that you despise. Many of us have been there. I know I have. Here is how I have handled the situation in the past... I started by reaching out to these types of hunters in a sincere and friendly fashion with absolutely no intent to "come down on them". If I was out on a drive circling my block one evening and I saw their vehicle coming I would flag them down and exchange a little small talk with them. I would tell them if I recently saw a nice buck or if there was a group of does feeding out in the field somewhere. Basically, I built up trust with them and they started sharing info with me as well. If they shot a deer and it ran on my property I helped them track it, recover it and on one occasion I even field dressed it for the guy. The one time I caught a guy that decided he was just gonna do a stalk through my property because he didn't think I was hunting. Well, much to his surprise I was hunting in a spot where he wasn't used to me being. As he was unknowingly coming towards me I began to approach him and he tried to turn and head back the other direction. I yelled a couple of times and finally got him to stop. I simply told him in a very friendly manner that I know he doesn't have permission to hunt here but if he is going to go on my property than I am going to go on his. Me and this guy are great friends now. I sometimes hunt his property and he sometimes hunts mine now. He still thanks me to this very day that I didn't get law enforcement involved that day. The point of all this is that by being friendly with those that hunt around you much more good will usually come out of it than bad. My suggestion for you is to change your approach. I changed my approach several years ago and the payback has been outstanding. The hunting seasons are a lot more fun when you are sharing the experiences with your neighbors instead of working against each other.
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Post by kevin1 on Feb 18, 2016 16:03:25 GMT -5
Every year some anti gun type proposes setbacks of 50-100 yards from occupied structures to the Legislature on the pretext of "public safety", and it gets shot down each time for the same reason, it would eliminate most hunting statewide. The property I own is 450' wide and a bit over 930' long, do you seriously think I would give up most of it because I might shoot a deer that came from next door? Fat chance. I would never support any such ruling or law, and vigorously fight to keep any such suggestion to implement one from happening. What I do or where I set up on my land is none of my neighbor's business so long as I cause them no harm.
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Post by bullseye69 on Feb 20, 2016 0:59:42 GMT -5
Many of us deal with this same problem, but I don't think any new laws are warranted. Several things you can do: 1. Post a sign clearly visible right in front of the stand that says; no trespassing, no shooting across line, and no trailing of wounded game without permission. 2. Put up a blocker stand right on your side of the line and hunt it periodically to keep tabs on things. 3. Manipulate the habitat to make it less likely that deer travel or cross within range of his stand. This can be accomplished via; clearing, hinge cutting, piling brush, etc. 4. An extreme solution but perfectly legal would be a 6' to 8' tall deer proof fence along the line of a troublesome neighbor. If you have good ground, you will always have neighbors on less desirable ground trying to take advantage of deer entering or leaving your place. Some habitat consultants recommend that you maintain a wide open trail around the perimeter of your property, and you only hunt stands on the outside edges, leaving the interior as sanctuary. I like steiny ideas too. I think its safer to shoot into my property than towards the edge of my property even from a elevated position. If I were you I would put up stands rather than blinds. You get so much more of a view from a stand than a blind. If they have three stands on the property line ,you put up three stands on the property line. If you really wanted to get your point across to them put yours on the closest tree to theirs. They might get the hint. Don't forget to teach your kids the rules on stands and wearing the harness.
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Post by bartiks on Feb 20, 2016 10:05:11 GMT -5
I understand the frustration, however much of this could be avoided IF the neighbor, whomever he/she may be has some common sense about guns and projectiles. I'm not saying they do not, and secondly my Uncle Larry once had a similar problem on some land that we all hunted back in the 90's. Some individual would hunt a corner of the adjoining property waiting for the deer to come from out hunt over to their hunt.
He got kind of tired about the neighbor ruining the hunt for everyone so he would go sit down on the opposite side of the property line and around shooting time he would start sighing saying "come on where are the deer at?" and the like. I think it only took one morning for the neighbor to move to another location of which he had plenty and everyone from that point on got along real nice.
I guess in a nice way he was trying to say "look I'll ruin our hunt this time so next time we all can have a better chance". Of course he was always looking for a way to poke a bear.
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Post by swilk on Feb 21, 2016 13:55:16 GMT -5
Good grief, I leave the country for a week and I miss all the good conversations.
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Post by bullseye69 on Feb 21, 2016 22:55:15 GMT -5
Good grief, I leave the country for a week and I miss all the good conversations. Well welcome back!
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Post by trapperdave on Feb 22, 2016 7:44:25 GMT -5
People need to spend less time worrying about what their neighbors are hunting with, for, and where. A stand near a property line does not equate to someone shooting onto your property. Those aren't your deer. And once that deer steps across the line, he's fair game. Get over yourselves. It makes me think of the opposition to the youth season, or crossbows or rifles...all boils down to " they're gonna shoot MY deer" smh
Just hunt. Good grief.
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