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Post by DUCKMASTER1 on Sept 28, 2015 20:52:42 GMT -5
I look at it both ways, I have had 2 boys that have hunted the youth season. I would like it moved to the 1st weekend in October. BUt I agree they get all season to hunt with their parents. I took my boys with me during regular season. But on private property. So was safe with that. But they should get at least move it to another week in october.
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Post by salt on Sept 28, 2015 20:57:01 GMT -5
From the Ohio regs:
The youth deer gun season is November 21 - 22, 2015. Young hunters 17 years old and younger at the time they purchase their youth hunting license and a deer permit, and who are accompanied by a non-hunting adult may hunt.
Youth hunters may take deer of either sex during this season.
Deer taken by young hunters during the youth deer gun season count towards their county bag limits.
Each deer taken must have a game tag attached and a permit completed before hunting or pursuing another deer.
All youths and non-hunting adults must wear hunter orange.
Youths 17 years old and younger hunting on land their grandparents own are not required to have a hunting license, but must have a deer permit.
Youths must possess a valid Ohio youth hunting license and a deer permit.
Young hunters who kill a deer during this season must follow all the tagging requirements for the deer hunting season. If the deer is killed on Saturday the deer must be checked by 12 pm (noon) on Sunday. If the deer is killed on Sunday the deer must be checked by 11:30 pm on that day.
All deer hunting implements that are legal during the regular deer gun season are permitted.
Youths 17 years old and younger hunting on land their parents own are not required to have a hunting license or deer permit.
Youth hunters, regardless of age, must be accompanied at all times by a non-hunting adult, 18 years or older, when hunting this season. No more than two youths per adult. It is unlawful for the adult to hunt or possess a device commonly used to take wild animals.
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Post by swilk on Sept 28, 2015 21:01:47 GMT -5
I'm not up on the Ohio regs....when does their regular gun season come in? The weekend after the youth hunt?
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Post by GS1 on Sept 28, 2015 21:07:13 GMT -5
I think getting the dates changed could be possible. "We didn't have it when I was little" and "kids can still hunt the regular season" are both arguments known when the youth season was created and both are weak at best. Yet they are really the only arguments the anti-youth season people ever bring to the table.
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Post by greghopper on Sept 28, 2015 21:26:13 GMT -5
I think getting the dates changed could be possible. "We didn't have it when I was little" and "kids can still hunt the regular season" are both arguments known when the youth season was created and both are weak at best. Yet they are really the only arguments the anti-youth season people ever bring to the table. So what dates do you think it could be changed to??? Your opinion on what is "WEAK" is just that a "opinion" there no facts with that statement !!! BTW...... Not seeing any "ant-youth season" comments being made here also! |
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Post by salt on Sept 28, 2015 21:29:20 GMT -5
I'm not up on the Ohio regs....when does their regular gun season come in? The weekend after the youth hunt? Their gun season begins November 30th. Please know that I am not trying to turn this into a discussion on the dates of Indiana's gun season dates! That's a whole different discussion! |
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Post by salt on Sept 28, 2015 21:38:25 GMT -5
I'm going to throw this out there...
November 7-8 for the youth hunt. Archery season remains open for those who are not participating in the special youth hunt. My reasons are: better temperatures, less bugs, less crops, more deer movement. Now please give specific reasons why this would not be a positive promotion of the sport for the future hunting generation.
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Post by lawrencecountyhunter on Sept 28, 2015 21:45:57 GMT -5
I guess I really just don't understand how a weekend in September followed by around 100 consecutive days of open season is too restrictive on youth hunting opportunities.
What advantage would there be to adding a youth weekend in November? People of all ages get the first half of the month to hunt with archery equipment, and the 2nd half with whatever legal weapon they choose. Why care if it's called "youth" weekend or not?
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Post by jjas on Sept 28, 2015 21:48:21 GMT -5
I'm going to throw this out there... November 7-8 for the youth hunt. Archery season remains open for those who are not participating in the special youth hunt. My reasons are: better temperatures, less bugs, less crops, more deer movement. Now please give specific reasons why this would not be a positive promotion of the sport for the future hunting generation. In the past, I've often thought that some time in early/mid September would be good for the youth hunt. Many times the deer are still on their Summer patterns and bucks are (in many cases) still somewhat predictable. I don't really care when it's held, but there are trophy bow hunters who are going to have a snit if the neighbor kid kills "their" buck or "disrupts" the rut with their "evil firestick" if the youth season is held in November..... Of course, many of these people are the same ones who are still complaining about little Johnny getting "special treatment" by allowing them to hunt the weekend before archery opens (again because they don't want anyone killing "their" deer). |
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Post by lawrencecountyhunter on Sept 28, 2015 21:49:27 GMT -5
I'm going to throw this out there... November 7-8 for the youth hunt. Archery season remains open for those who are not participating in the special youth hunt. My reasons are: better temperatures, less bugs, less crops, more deer movement. Now please give specific reasons why this would not be a positive promotion of the sport for the future hunting generation. Keep the September weekend or ditch it? If you ditch it you're actually taking hunting days away, since everyone can hunt every day in November. If you're keeping the September weekend and just adding the November weekend, I think it could be beneficial. |
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Post by windingwinds on Sept 28, 2015 22:52:40 GMT -5
The youth season is a bit early. My son ended up only sitting for a little while, he told me he would prefer to wait til gun season so that if a deer goes on my side then I can shoot it. I think he's worried he will bump me or something. Of course he then promptly went fishing, I think I'm losing him to the bass and walleye lol. We were concerned about weather, but it's not that unusual to have warm days well into mid November. Those days we plan on gutting and icing quickly. We are almost done with youth season here, youngest turns 16 in October, but it doesn't bother me that youth season continues as is. The decent weather is good for younger kids.
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Post by swilk on Sept 29, 2015 4:55:51 GMT -5
Its funny that what some may consider a weak argument others recognize as undeniable, concrete facts.
There was no youth season and everyone is able to hunt throughout the season. Those are facts.
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Post by salt on Sept 29, 2015 6:03:39 GMT -5
Its funny that what some may consider a weak argument others recognize as undeniable, concrete facts. There was no youth season and everyone is able to hunt throughout the season. Those are facts. I agree with you. There is no way everyone is going to agree on this subject. Heck, we couldn't all agree on the sun rising in the east of it was a topic of discussion. There have been some very good points shared on this topic. Some just like to pick apart and argue. What is the purpose or the mission of the youth hunt? |
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Post by antiwheeze on Sept 29, 2015 6:06:18 GMT -5
Having only mentored two years (days), my opinion is that it worked out well for us. The weather was mild. Deer moved at predictable times: morning and eve, and there are products to mitigate harassment by bugs. Can't think of a better time to have it.
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Post by greghopper on Sept 29, 2015 6:17:54 GMT -5
The propose of Youth weekend was to provide dates that a youth and mentor could hunt without the presedents of the public hunting also.
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Post by huntnandplumbn on Sept 29, 2015 6:38:51 GMT -5
Its funny that what some may consider a weak argument others recognize as undeniable, concrete facts. There was no youth season and everyone is able to hunt throughout the season. Those are facts. I think that's exactly the point. It would be nice to have a season, especially beneficial for those not fortunate enough to have private land access and not have EVERYONE out there. Ultimately it's purpose is to bring more youth hunters into the sport and keep them in it so hunting long after we're all gone is still alive and flourishing. So put the kids into the field during the most high percentage time of year and keep their interest and keep them safe while doing so. Trust me I grew up hunting Public ground and it's not exactly what I would call a safe environment. |
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Post by dbd870 on Sept 29, 2015 6:55:23 GMT -5
I would like to see it moved back a couple of weeks - KY has a M/L weekend in mid October and somehow the bow hunters survive down there. 2nd weekend in Oct.; CHANCES ARE BETTER for a cooler weekend, close it to adult hunters (Oh how the howls of pain will commence). As for that, really; with all the time there is to hunt one weekend still well before the rut is going to kill you!? I have been mentoring since Youth Weekend came in to existence and JDUB has taken deer and had shots, Andrew should have had deer - that was his own fault. I still believe between temps and giving it a few more weeks for things to thin out (it is really thick right now) - this is likely more important - would provide for a better experience. The young kids in particular may not know any better but I firmly believe it is our responsibility for the future of hunting to provide as good an experience as we can for them; while this still is not a peak time it is headed in the right direction (I believe) - it is a compromise that I would like to see happen but I doubt enough would be willing to make. At least we have something, better than nothing.
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Post by salt on Sept 29, 2015 6:59:50 GMT -5
The propose of Youth weekend was to provide dates that a youth and mentor could hunt without the presedents of the public hunting also. Can you post your source? |
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Post by trapperdave on Sept 29, 2015 7:06:30 GMT -5
Let me throw another item into the discussion... Little Johnny shoots his first deer at sunset last night. The deer isn't recovered until noon today. The temp has been in the 70s most of the morning. The deer is a spoiled loss. How often does this happen because of the current early season? its likely not spoiled. and ive seen 80 degrees in november. they hunt antelope in 100 plus heat |
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Post by Woody Williams on Sept 29, 2015 7:07:46 GMT -5
The propose of Youth weekend was to provide dates that a youth and mentor could hunt without the presedents of the public hunting also. Can you post your source? I don't recall that at all. It was put the weekend before archery season as some bowhunters didn't want to share at all. In fact the youth in the UDZ/deer Reduction Zones are still sharing the woods with the archers.. The archers have to wear HO of course... |
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