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Post by greghopper on Oct 2, 2012 22:28:56 GMT -5
The only time the youth is required to be in control of the firearm is the moment he uses it to take a deer. False statement. According to the rules the accompanying adult can not possess a firearm, muzzleloader, bow and arrow or xbow while in the field. ...... KY must have different rules or he is confused
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Post by practicalsportsman on Oct 3, 2012 2:27:08 GMT -5
Anyone got any more info in this unfortunate event? I just thought i would bring everyone up to speed. First off this was an outright accident, the adults were going to hunt other game the young man who was killed was taking the 12 year old to his stand and getting him situated in it. They were going to an ajacent property then to hunt, the young man who fatally shot the other was walking and then triped and fell causing the gun to discharge, and yes it was on safety. The young man that triped causing this unfortunate act is in shock over the whole ordeal. anyway hope this helps eveyone out.
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Post by dbd870 on Oct 3, 2012 4:24:35 GMT -5
In that case I'm curious about what the firearm was.
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Post by freedomhunter on Oct 3, 2012 5:46:26 GMT -5
Doesnt common sense dictate even if the adult helps the youth with handling the firearm that it is still the youths firearm, only one weapon there common sense to me anyway geez
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Post by firstwd on Oct 3, 2012 5:49:34 GMT -5
Doesnt common sense dictate even if the adult helps the youth with handling the firearm that it is still the youths firearm, only one weapon there common sense to me anyway geez Unfortunately, it not so common these days.....
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2012 7:18:16 GMT -5
False statement. According to the rules the accompanying adult can not possess a firearm, muzzleloader, bow and arrow or xbow while in the field. ...... KY must have different rules or he is confused Correct....my bad. Again, Ky has this one right. It makes prefect common sense that the mentor be able to control the firearm at all times. Also, the adult can carry a handgun under another Ind. Law recently added.
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Post by Boilermaker on Oct 3, 2012 7:48:59 GMT -5
So the youth should never be in posession of the firearm / bow / crossbow? Isn't the purpose of the youth hunt to teach youth...how to hunt? And doesn't the proper handling of the firearm while hunting fall in place here? If I read your post correctly the mentor should be in control of the firearm at all times. What happens when the youth becomes an adult and has never carried a firearm on his own in the field? That logic doesn't make much sense. Teach them how to properly handle the firearm before the hunt and there shouldn't be any issues.
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Post by firstwd on Oct 3, 2012 8:29:22 GMT -5
So the youth should never be in posession of the firearm / bow / crossbow? Isn't the purpose of the youth hunt to teach youth...how to hunt? And doesn't the proper handling of the firearm while hunting fall in place here? If I read your post correctly the mentor should be in control of the firearm at all times. What happens when the youth becomes an adult and has never carried a firearm on his own in the field? That logic doesn't make much sense. Teach them how to properly handle the firearm before the hunt and there shouldn't be any issues. He said be able to, not have to. There can at any time arise a situation where the adult needs to and should take control of the situation.
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Post by Woody Williams on Oct 3, 2012 8:31:03 GMT -5
Now I'm really confused . What happened to what the DNR spokesman said about "someone in the other group hunting illegally mad doing the shooting?"
I'm with DBD870. I want to know what gun was used that would fire with the safety on
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2012 8:39:27 GMT -5
Ky. Youth regs require the mentor to be able to take control of the weapon at all times. Means the mentor remains in close contact with the youth, not on stand somewhere else. When a young man reaches maturity and proper age, he can hunt on his own . And then hes responsible for his actions, not his mentor,
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Post by Woody Williams on Oct 3, 2012 8:54:52 GMT -5
Too many confusing "facts" from dubious sources here.
I've emailed Scotty Wilson and asked for an update...
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Post by Woody Williams on Oct 3, 2012 12:27:40 GMT -5
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Post by jager on Oct 3, 2012 16:13:25 GMT -5
According to our local paper an adult did do the shooting. It said "he was shot once in the head with a slug fired from a 12g shotgun." I don't see what other game they would have been after using 12g slugs?
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Post by johnc911 on Oct 4, 2012 4:47:30 GMT -5
Well if practicalsportsman says it, it must be true.!!
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Post by tynimiller on Oct 4, 2012 9:17:05 GMT -5
If it was a slug....I too don't see what type of game you'd be hunting this time of year besides deer illegally.
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