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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2012 18:09:10 GMT -5
...this is one of the reasons I'm against youth hunts.....but I am behind the idea of youth hunts. ? What are some of the other reasons???
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Post by Woody Williams on Oct 1, 2012 18:14:31 GMT -5
First off ..this has absolutely NOTHING to do the the youth hunts.
Cheaters cheat and people make stupid mistakes no matter what season is in or isn't in. To say that the youth season was responsible for this is assinine..
Place the blame on the shooter, not the youth hunts..
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2012 18:20:20 GMT -5
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Post by swilk on Oct 1, 2012 19:16:32 GMT -5
+2
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Post by bsutravis on Oct 2, 2012 8:10:26 GMT -5
+3
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Post by tynimiller on Oct 2, 2012 8:19:51 GMT -5
+4 Agreed!
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Post by 45shooter on Oct 2, 2012 11:55:56 GMT -5
Anyone got any more info in this unfortunate event?
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Post by bowhunterjohn on Oct 2, 2012 13:52:31 GMT -5
Like to hear what all really happened - just terrible. I hope we find out.. Could be the adult mishandled the gun? Prayers for the families and friends.. I guess I thought the adult was not to handle the weapon on a youth hunt, only the youth ? This is sad in many many ways and levels
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Post by bowhunterjohn on Oct 2, 2012 13:53:38 GMT -5
First off ..this has absolutely NOTHING to do the the youth hunts. Cheaters cheat and people make stupid mistakes no matter what season is in or isn't in. To say that the youth season was responsible for this is assinine.. Place the blame on the shooter, not the youth hunts.. agreed, been reading and wow what a mess and to teach a youth this crap too.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2012 14:08:17 GMT -5
There is nothing in the regs that says the mentor cant handle the weapon while assisting tbe youth. It says he should in fact be there fo take charge of the weapon if need be.
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Post by firstwd on Oct 2, 2012 14:19:15 GMT -5
There is nothing in the regs that says the mentor cant handle the weapon while assisting tbe youth. It says he should in fact be there fo take charge of the weapon if need be. Absolutely. The problem in this situation that I can tell from the story is there was one 12yo and three adults. The man that got shot and the 12yo were walking through a corn field when one of the other adults shot him. Being in the position I am in, I have to ask if this was an accidental shooting or an easier way to cover up something else? Either way, I feel the adults who were hunting illegally should lose their hunting privileges for at least 5 years.
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Post by tenring on Oct 2, 2012 15:17:04 GMT -5
How about losing their hunting privileges for life?
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Post by bowhunterjohn on Oct 2, 2012 16:11:11 GMT -5
There is nothing in the regs that says the mentor cant handle the weapon while assisting tbe youth. It says he should in fact be there fo take charge of the weapon if need be. But they do have to be within so many feet I believe, I thought the youth was supposed to handle it a majority of the time these guys are just the ones that abuse the system and now they got caught up in it and a man had to die over it. Only thing I can think is maybe the other guys were squirrel hunting and pushing deer Still its the youth hunt, focus on the youth not yourself. Very sad for all involved
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2012 17:10:30 GMT -5
The only time the youth is required to be in control of the firearm is the moment he uses it to take a deer.
There has not been eniugh info published yet to determine what happened in this event. It may not even been an accident. No one here knows that yet
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Post by bowhunterjohn on Oct 2, 2012 18:05:50 GMT -5
The only time the youth is required to be in control of the firearm is the moment he uses it to take a deer. There has not been eniugh info published yet to determine what happened in this event. It may not even been an accident. No one here knows that yet yes a lot of speculation at this point. I can only imagine but our human minds always assume the worst in situations like this. maybe the other two guys were squirrel hunting and trying to push a deer to the kid with the adult ? Hard to say. It is however sad anyway it worked out
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2012 18:32:54 GMT -5
If they were squirrel hunting, do you think the shooter mistake a human head in the edge of a corn field.as a tree rat? Probabky not.being yhe charge of illegal hunting. But then thats more speculation.
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Post by hornharvester on Oct 2, 2012 20:31:40 GMT -5
The only time the youth is required to be in control of the firearm is the moment he uses it to take a deer. False statement. According to the rules the accompanying adult can not possess a firearm, muzzleloader, bow and arrow or xbow while in the field.
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Post by 629powerport on Oct 2, 2012 21:05:19 GMT -5
There is nothing in the regs that says the mentor cant handle the weapon while assisting tbe youth. It says he should in fact be there fo take charge of the weapon if need be. Where do you read this at? It don't say anything likr that at all. Youth Free Hunting Days Youth free hunting days for 2012 are Sept. 1-2 and Nov. 24-25. Any resident age 17 or younger on the date of the hunt, and accompanied by an adult of at least 18 years of age, can take any legal game in season during these youth free hunting days. The youth hunter does not have to possess a hunting license, HIP number or any state stamp but must comply with all other hunting regulations. To hunt waterfowl, a Federal duck stamp is required for all persons 16 years or older. The accompanying adult must be in close enough proximity to monitor and be able to communicate with the youth hunter at all times and may assist the youth hunter, including calling, but may not carry a firearm, crossbow, or bow and arrow. The accompanying adult must possess a valid hunting license, unless exempted from needing a license (see page 12).
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Post by bowhunterjohn on Oct 2, 2012 22:09:40 GMT -5
I thought that was the case, in fact I asked last year if my son could take a bow and gun and was told, "only if he carries both"
that was the Allen County DNR office.
I guess my old feeble mind isnt' totally gone LOL
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Post by bowhunterjohn on Oct 2, 2012 22:10:51 GMT -5
If they were squirrel hunting, do you think the shooter mistake a human head in the edge of a corn field.as a tree rat? Probabky not.being yhe charge of illegal hunting. But then thats more speculation. I'm really anticipating the facts, but your right timex, how do you mistake a head , especially if they had an orange hat on.
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