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Post by wileyonetoo on Oct 12, 2010 19:34:42 GMT -5
My buddy and I have purchased the equipment to process our own deer this year, for the first time. We have watched videos and both attended the DNR/Purdue Extension Office workshop at Parke County Fairgrounds. We think we've done all that we can to prepare.
One question that we have been mulling around is the percent of fat and what type of fat to use in our ground. I know the processors we have used in the past have all asked about adding the fat. Beef soot is the only thing that comes to mind for what they suggested.
What do all of you do? What type of fat? What percentage of fat?
Thanks for any advice...
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Post by HuntMeister on Oct 12, 2010 20:00:23 GMT -5
Well I'm far from an expert on this subject but I am always experimenting. Seems 5 to 10% fat is the best IME. I have tried both beef and pork fat and flavorwise the beef was better to me. Have been told that beef fat has a higher melting point than pork. Last year I didn't put any fat in my ground and I think I prefer it that way.
Whereabouts in Hendricks county are ya? I'm in Pittsboro.
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Post by realhunter on Oct 13, 2010 7:47:59 GMT -5
Have been grinding our own for close to 15 years... We add nothing to ours. It cooks just fine with no fat. I use a little olive oil in the pan. We use ground venison at least twice a week.
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Post by dadfsr on Oct 13, 2010 10:52:21 GMT -5
It's all a matter of taste but I have always used about 20% pork trimmings in my ground venison. I've used it instead of ground beef for any recipe...there's been a lot of my relation/friends that eat it and think it's ground beef. But a lot of it has to do with how the fresh kill is handled, cooled, aged and butchered-not everyone does that the same as I do. I still haven't figured out how the typical person can put an entire deer in the freezer in less than a couple of hours!! It takes me about an evening per quarter to debone, get all the fat and silver off and package for the freezer...but that's me being very particular about what I'm going to eat later. I'd rather spend extra time at the beginning and know that when I take a package out of the freezer later it will be the best venison that I could have possibly put on the table. I'm on vacation in SC right now and have the last of last years venison with us (where we will have a party on the dock with it). The people from down here always make the comment that they can't believe venison can taste that good! I'm not bragging on my butchering/chef skills- but more am of the opinion that the "local" ways of handling deer after the kill contribute to the taste that they associate with venison. When I hear about a #180 buck getting killed down here (which is big for along the coast) I know that weight is the whole deer-they don't field dress them before taking them to check in....which with the warmer weather they have down I have never understood except for having the bragging rights for that "big" buck...YUCK!!!!! But I was also over at another neighbors last fall that has a regular walk in cooler and all the "cool" butchering tools. I walked in with intention of helping but almost got sick from the smell-here they were butchering out a couple of gut shot doe from the night before that had just been thrown in the cooler and not even field dressed....DOUBLE YUCK!!!! What was even worse is that they were showing some young Boy Scouts (who had never hunted) how to butcher a deer-I can only imagine what kind of impression it made on those young'uns Enough rant....just do the best you can with your fresh kill. The first hour or two determines what the meat will taste like for the next several months!
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Post by 10point on Oct 13, 2010 14:00:04 GMT -5
Never add anything. Like to keep it healthy. I take the time to get the fat out.
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Post by wileyonetoo on Oct 13, 2010 14:20:58 GMT -5
Thanks for your input guys. I'm all for not adding anything. We'll talk it over and go from there. I'm sure we'll experiment some.
Huntmeister: I live on the east edge of Danville. So not too far from you. Hate living in town but it's not in the cards to buy property out somewhere.
dadfsr: my buddy and I are very meticulous in how we handle our deer. I agree 100% that it's all in how you handle it. With this being our first experience, I'm sure we'll make some mistakes. As with everything, you typically learn as you go for what to not do the next time. Hopefully the mistakes will be minimal. It can't be any worse than the job I had done last year by a processor near Bainbridge. Have fun on your trip, and be safe headed home.
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Post by throbak on Oct 13, 2010 17:17:06 GMT -5
I dont add any thing I LIKE THE TASTE OF DEER why ruin it with beef or pork fat??? I do run it threw the grinder two times tho. and before I hang them they are washed throughly
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Post by jabba on Oct 14, 2010 6:23:06 GMT -5
I grind mine without fat.
You can't really make hamburgers with it like that... but it works great for anything that uses loose ground meat.
You guys should try canning some too. That's my wife's and both my sisters favorite way.
Jabba
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Post by lkrus on Oct 14, 2010 17:37:55 GMT -5
i too grind with out fat, except when i am making sausage and then its pork fat
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Post by schall53 on Oct 14, 2010 17:53:38 GMT -5
I use 20% pork fat, I like burgers and like jabba said if you don't use fat the burgers fall apart. Even with 20% when you are done cooking there is very little grease left in the pan. I also grind mine twice.
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Post by 36fan on Oct 26, 2010 12:27:34 GMT -5
I leave in some fat from the deer and that's it. I made summer sausage last year and added pork sausage - summer sausage would be too dry without some additional fat.
BTW - I'm south of Plainfield.
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Post by jabba on Oct 27, 2010 14:25:09 GMT -5
I leave in some fat from the deer and that's it. I made summer sausage last year and added pork sausage - summer sausage would be too dry without some additional fat. BTW - I'm south of Plainfield. Yuk yuk YUK. Venison fat is NASTY!! but to each their own. Jabba
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Post by dadfsr on Oct 27, 2010 17:31:52 GMT -5
I leave in some fat from the deer and that's it. I made summer sausage last year and added pork sausage - summer sausage would be too dry without some additional fat. BTW - I'm south of Plainfield. Yuk yuk YUK. Venison fat is NASTY!! but to each their own. Jabba I'm with you Jabba- DOUBLE YUK yuk and YUK!!
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Post by steiny on Oct 27, 2010 20:15:32 GMT -5
Venison fat ruins the taste, trim it off. I think beef fat ruins the taste also.
About 20% pork tastes pretty good, we always used cheap pork shoulders (butt) rather than pure fat. However, the lasty few years I quit adding anything and prefer it plain.
Venison plain or with the added pork makes poor hamburgers, as there isn't enough fat to make it stick together good. They fall apart on the grill. If you want good venison burgers, thaw it out and mix with an egg or two, some bar-B-q sauce, cracker crumbs, etc. and then make into patties. Ground blue cheese mixed in is pretty awesome.
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Post by jabba on Oct 28, 2010 7:21:29 GMT -5
That sounds pretty good too.
Ground venison makes great meat loaf too.
Not to mention Taco's. Venison Taco's is really good.
Jabba
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Post by 36fan on Oct 28, 2010 12:12:52 GMT -5
I leave in some fat from the deer and that's it. I made summer sausage last year and added pork sausage - summer sausage would be too dry without some additional fat. BTW - I'm south of Plainfield. Yuk yuk YUK. Venison fat is NASTY!! but to each their own. Jabba Not the hard outer crap, the fat around the meat. It is still VERY lean. I've had several people that ate my venison that had no idea they were eating venison. A few had told me they didn't like venison, but had no problem chowing down on it. When I make jerky, their isn't enough fat in it to need a drip pan.
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Post by jabba on Oct 28, 2010 13:35:43 GMT -5
Every piece of venison fat I have ever tasted was terrible. AND, it's solid at human body temperature. So unlike pork and beef fat, when you eat it... it coagulates in your mouth and coats everything. Yuk. I'll try yours sometime, as long as there is something nearby to rinse with. Jabba
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Post by danf on Oct 30, 2010 8:02:03 GMT -5
It can't be any worse than the job I had done last year by a processor near Bainbridge. Was that Kevin or someone else? Kevin has a good set up, but he runs a lot of deer through it.... What was wrong with the butchering?
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Post by drs on Oct 30, 2010 11:23:30 GMT -5
Most of my ground venison is used making Chili or BBQ dishes. Venison cooked on the grill doesn't workout too well unless you doctor it up a bit.
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Post by wileyonetoo on Oct 31, 2010 20:43:17 GMT -5
danf, you're correct with who it was. I won't go into the details as others may think he does a great job. The only thing I would ever use him for now is to check it in. The good thing is that he pushed us to "finally" do our own. We just processed our first one this weekend. Not too bad and now we know what we're getting. We can only blame ourselves going forward if the quality is bad.
You are also correct in that he has a nice steup. I just wonder if he's putting more through than he can really handle, with quality in mind.
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