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Post by jrbhunter on Apr 5, 2006 13:13:08 GMT -5
Hey BS'er... if you don't mind me asking--- how old are you and how long have you been hunting?
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Post by bsutravis on Apr 5, 2006 13:30:26 GMT -5
I am 33.... I've been hunting since I was 14, although I didn't start turkey hunting till I was about 20.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2006 13:30:58 GMT -5
Most states don't allow you to take a turkey off his roost. I'm surprised that Ind. does? If it's legal, then I'm OK with it though.
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Post by jrbhunter on Apr 5, 2006 16:40:29 GMT -5
Anyone see the Turkey Video where Michael Waddel shot one out of a tree ? He called it to him and it flew up into a tree and he shot it out of a tree. Then had a game warden on with him letting everyone know it was legal to kill it the way he did. Yes I have seen that one... my memory is a little fuzzy. Did he shoot it from it's actual roost or did it fly over into that tree over his head? Michael is a prime example of why these supreme ethics are laughable... that guy was pumped up over that turkey when it hit the ground. Not like a preplanned Roger Ragland "Jimminie Christmas" or anything... I mean PUMPED. You can sit on a high horse all you want but that is what it's all about. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2006 16:59:54 GMT -5
There is a big difference in what Micheal did and shooting one off the roost, not that either is good or either is bad. A turkey flying up in the middle of the day is not at a disadvantage for sure.
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Post by hunter480 on Apr 5, 2006 17:10:07 GMT -5
EDITTED FOR PERSONAL ATTACKS.
Clean it up right now.
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Post by jaybob on Apr 5, 2006 17:30:14 GMT -5
EDITTED FOR PERSONAL ATTACKS.
Stop the provocation..
Clean it up right now.
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Post by jrbhunter on Apr 5, 2006 18:44:03 GMT -5
EDITTED FOR PERSONAL ATTACKS.
Clean it up right now.
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Post by danimal8876 on Apr 5, 2006 23:35:51 GMT -5
I don't think its ethical, but to each his own. 99% of what I love about turkey hunting has nothing to do with the actual kill, but is more about matching wits and working the bird. I'd rather hunt 3 weeks, hear several birds gobble, see them strut, but for whatever reason not fill my tag, than to sneak in under the cover of darkness and rip one off his roost at first light, just because the situation presented itself. To me, its about the "hunt", not so much the "harvest".
Dan Lawhorn
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Post by jrbhunter on Apr 5, 2006 23:55:09 GMT -5
Woody, I don't mind you editing the post or even removing them... but I wish there was some way to qualify the term "personal attacks" and explain the severity of the infraction. The way it looks right now we are all equally guilty and that is a real shame, I hope you deal with the problem where the problem lies. I'll do the best I can to not publically call a spade a spade in the future- but sometimes it's just hard to do.
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Post by varmint101 on Apr 6, 2006 10:11:15 GMT -5
Varmint, I thought you were an old turkey slayer from way back, that's why I got you on my team and now you tell me you never killed a bird. You know this contest is all about scoring right? So I expect you to get out by midnight and find that roost tree and not leave till shooting time. You know what to do come legal shooting time don't you? Indy, you were to pay ALL not half. Your papers are in the mail, see you down town bucko. Please don't say roost tree!! Last year on opening morning I had a PERFECT spot picked out on a pipeline. I put my gun and pack under this big oak tree (you see where this is going?) and I go to put out my decoys. I put the last one in and I hear a cluck-cluck-cluck. I look up into the tree my gun and pack are sitting under and there several turkies looking right at me! They took off and about 7 others followed from trees next to it. All this while there is only a small sliver of light out. I guess I should've done it during pitch black hours!! I was ticked and never did call in a turkey that day. I'm not going to go into my other story last year where I did call in a bird and didn't know it and stood up LOL!  This will be my 3rd season. Hopefully the 3rd times a charm. Matt |
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Post by Woody Williams on Apr 6, 2006 10:22:11 GMT -5
Varmint, I thought you were an old turkey slayer from way back, that's why I got you on my team and now you tell me you never killed a bird. You know this contest is all about scoring right? So I expect you to get out by midnight and find that roost tree and not leave till shooting time. You know what to do come legal shooting time don't you? Indy, you were to pay ALL not half. Your papers are in the mail, see you down town bucko. Please don't say roost tree!! Last year on opening morning I had a PERFECT spot picked out on a pipeline. I put my gun and pack under this big oak tree (you see where this is going?) and I go to put out my decoys. I put the last one in and I hear a cluck-cluck-cluck. I look up into the tree my gun and pack are sitting under and there several turkies looking right at me! They took off and about 7 others followed from trees next to it. All this while there is only a small sliver of light out. I guess I should've done it during pitch black hours!! I was ticked and never did call in a turkey that day. I'm not going to go into my other story last year where I did call in a bird and didn't know it and stood up LOL! This will be my 3rd season. Hopefully the 3rd times a charm. Matt Been there, done that... All part of the turkey hunting game.. Fun, eh? |
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Post by varmint101 on Apr 6, 2006 10:25:18 GMT -5
What kind of shot would you have at a bedded deer??? Probably pee-poor with it's legs folded up blocking it's heart. No way would I take a shot at a bedded deer. Once it gets up....absolutely. And for the record....I've never seen a squirrel napping on a branch, they usually are barking at me because climbed their favorite tree while deer hunting. The one shot I've had at a bedded deer and took I aimed for the shoulder and ended up taking out lungs and it made the heart split with my muzzleloader. This was about a 115" 200lb buck and he made it maybe 20 yards. As I said before, I'd do it again if I had the chance. I've also shot squirrles napping after pigging out on a hickory tree. A big fat red squirrel is what I can recollect. If I beat them on their own turf I win. Turkey, to me however, is a different animal because I want to call one in. If you don't like it that's ok because I don't care. You hunt how you hunt and I hunt how I hunt. Matt |
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Post by Woody Williams on Apr 6, 2006 10:33:52 GMT -5
What kind of shot would you have at a bedded deer??? Probably pee-poor with it's legs folded up blocking it's heart. No way would I take a shot at a bedded deer. Once it gets up....absolutely.
And for the record....I've never seen a squirrel napping on a branch, they usually are barking at me because climbed their favorite tree while deer hunting.
If you don't like it that's ok because I don't care. You hunt how you hunt and I hunt how I hunt.
Matt If a deer hunter is slick enough to get up on a bedded deer and kill it he earned it. That is a LOT tougher proposition that sitting in a tree waiting for one to come by. Spot and stalk guys have my admiration no matter what weapon they are carrying. I'm way too impatient and stumble footed to even try it.. As far as a "pee-poor shot". One needs to be selective no matter where the deer is at. If the vitals are exposed then that shot is ethical and a good one to take. |
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Post by bsutravis on Apr 6, 2006 11:11:52 GMT -5
Fellas, I totally agree that if you get on a bedded deer and have a clean shot at it's vitals that you could take it.....but from my experience, the way that deer fold their legs sort of blocks their heart area. Yes, there are other kill zones....I guess I was thinking more in lines with bow-hunting versus firearm..... I'd still pop a twig or something to make the deer stand most likely........offering an open view at the vitals. Every situation is different though...........
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Post by buster on Apr 6, 2006 13:52:53 GMT -5
There are quite a few states that prohibit shooting a turkey in a tree, roosted or not. However, it IS legal in Indiana, as long as it is during legal shooting hours. Personally, I wouldn't do it. It's a sloppy way to shoot a turkey, and IMHO very unethical in most situations!
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Post by gobblerstopper on Apr 24, 2006 21:40:36 GMT -5
I've had the chance to shoot gobblers off the roost several times. Most of the time they have pitched down out of range and went the other way. Still, I am not about to lift one off the roost.
I did have one coming in one morning and when he got to a blowdown he flew up into a tree to see on the other side of it. If he had been in range, he would have came home with me.
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