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Post by Woody Williams on Apr 4, 2006 7:41:25 GMT -5
Is this ethical for YOU?
Would you shoot a gobbler off of a roost?
YES
NO
Scenario… You’ve slipped into your turkey woods as quiet as possible way before daybreak. You take a seat under a nice big oak and are waiting for the birds to open up.
As usual the only birds that you hear are way far away and some are on another property.
Legal shooting hours arrives and you are about to get up and go look elsewhere when you hear a CLUCK from above. You scan the trees and sitting on a limb not 40 yards away is a boss gobbler with a paintbrush beard.
Do you “roost’ him or let him go?
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Post by chicobrownbear on Apr 4, 2006 7:46:02 GMT -5
I'll give him the respect of flying down.
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Post by polypros on Apr 4, 2006 8:21:07 GMT -5
I lwould et him go. The whole point for me in turkey hunting is hearing one gobble and call it in. If turkeys didn't gobble, I wouldn't hunt them. Is it ethical? I guess if you have hunted turkeys for 20 years and never got one.
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Post by Decatur on Apr 4, 2006 8:35:31 GMT -5
Absolutely not!
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Post by DEERTRACKS on Apr 4, 2006 9:02:07 GMT -5
No way I would blast him out of the tree.
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Post by bsutravis on Apr 4, 2006 10:47:16 GMT -5
I personally wouldn't... What fun would that be?
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Post by shootsa410 on Apr 4, 2006 11:22:37 GMT -5
Woody you should have included in your poll, would you (Indy) ambush a bird that's headed directly towards your hunting buddy. Anyone need a Scenario?
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Post by Woody Williams on Apr 4, 2006 11:34:42 GMT -5
Woody you should have included in your poll, would you (Indy) ambush a bird that's headed directly towards your hunting buddy. Anyone need a Scenario? Do you think the poll would have ended up 99 to 1??
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Post by Indyhunter on Apr 4, 2006 11:48:39 GMT -5
Woody you should have included in your poll, would you (Indy) ambush a bird that's headed directly towards your hunting buddy. Anyone need a Scenario? I'd never ambush one that was headed towards my hunting buddy, but i'd sure as heck blast one after my hunting buddy spooks him and makes him run back by me! Anyone need a scenario?
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Post by DEERTRACKS on Apr 4, 2006 12:05:46 GMT -5
Woody you should have included in your poll, would you (Indy) ambush a bird that's headed directly towards your hunting buddy. Anyone need a Scenario? I think that we need to hear the whole stories! ;D
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Post by shootsa410 on Apr 4, 2006 12:30:01 GMT -5
[/quote]I'd never ambush one that was headed towards my hunting buddy[/quote] Maybe, just maybe, I'm no longer consided his hunting buddy.
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Post by Hawkeye on Apr 4, 2006 12:47:29 GMT -5
So, while still hunting would you not shoot a Nice 12 point Buck that you have found in his bed? Maybe scare him up and let him run a few yards,then shoot him. not!
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Post by hunter480 on Apr 4, 2006 13:39:19 GMT -5
Woody-This is an outstanding question, and poll. I voted “NO”, and the only reason I voted no, was because you didn`t have the option of “HELL NO”.
Ethics are a funny thing, as so many people are all ethical, until it comes down to something they have a true interest in. The guy I deer hunt with killed his very first ever white-tail 3 bow seasons ago. It was a big-bodied, smallish racked 8-pointer, and he was ecstatic. The very next Saturday, he was back in the same stand hoping to fill his doe tag. He watched in awe as A HUGE, wide and tall racked 10-pointer walked directly under his stand, then finally stopped broadside 10 yards away. And this is why he`s my hunting partner-he never even considered doing a thing, except watch the show. As he recounted the story to one family member, who is also a hunter, he was asked why he didn`t shoot the much bigger buck. When he explained that he had already filled his buck tag, his relative asked why he didn`t fill his “wifes” tag with the huge buck. Harold was disgusted, and again, that`s why he`s my hunting partner.
I wouldn`t shoot a turkey off the roost, I don`t shoot upland birds on the ground, I don`t shoot 1 minute before, or 1 minute after legal shooting time. My buddy and I have heard guys who brazenly describe shooting deer 20 minutes, 5 minutes before legal shooting time, and it`s just sad.
Anybody remember that thing that was around years ago, that said something about:…”the hunter has no gallery to applaud, or disapprove of his actions…..” I really can`t remember much of it, but it was simply saying that while in the field, when there`s no one who will ever know except you, it truly tells the tale of what you`re about, what your character really is, what your ethics truly are, based on what you will, and will not do.
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Post by varmint101 on Apr 4, 2006 14:22:32 GMT -5
Ethical? Yes. Would I do it? No. I've yet to kill a turkey. I hope to make that history this spring. I have had the opportunity twice to kill a gobbler in a tree and I wanted to, but I did not. I want to be able to say I called in my bird. Now, If I called in a gobbler and he flew up into a tree? I'd shoot him. Afterall, I did call him in.
I have still hunted in the rain and shot a mature buck in his bed and I would do it again in a second if ever given the opportunity another time. Hunting deer is a completely different game than hunting turkies to me.
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Post by Indyhunter on Apr 4, 2006 15:00:36 GMT -5
Woody you should have included in your poll, would you (Indy) ambush a bird that's headed directly towards your hunting buddy. Anyone need a Scenario? I think that we need to hear the whole stories! ;D Well deertracks, I won't get into the story on this thread, but 410 knows what the story is. He knows I didn't ambush the bird. He just isn't letting me live down the fact that he took me out of state to his spot, and I got the only bird! Now he's trying to trash my good turkey hunting name. ;D (I think he is just mad because I actually paid him for my half of the trip and he didn't get to take me to court like that last guy he took. But thats just my opinion).
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Post by shootsa410 on Apr 4, 2006 15:54:07 GMT -5
Varmint, I thought you were an old turkey slayer from way back, that's why I got you on my team and now you tell me you never killed a bird. You know this contest is all about scoring right? So I expect you to get out by midnight and find that roost tree and not leave till shooting time. You know what to do come legal shooting time don't you?
Indy, you were to pay ALL not half. Your papers are in the mail, see you down town bucko.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2006 16:35:44 GMT -5
Is it legal in Indiana to shoot a turkey off his roost??? I'll vote after someone clears that up for me. I don't have a problem with shooting a turkey out of a tree if it's legal. You don't make deer run before you shoot them do you???
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Post by Woody Williams on Apr 4, 2006 16:49:59 GMT -5
Is it legal in Indiana to shoot a turkey off his roost??? I'll vote after someone clears that up for me. I don't have a problem with shooting a turkey out of a tree if it's legal. You don't make deer run before you shoot them do you??? I don't know of any law against it. But unlawful and unethical doesn't always agree..
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2006 17:08:33 GMT -5
Is it legal in Indiana to shoot a turkey off his roost??? I'll vote after someone clears that up for me. I don't have a problem with shooting a turkey out of a tree if it's legal. You don't make deer run before you shoot them do you??? I don't know of any law against it. But unlawful and unethical doesn't always agree.. It is illegal in Kentucky to shoot a bird off of a roost, defined as a perch were the bird spent the night. If he has flown down and then back up, you can shoot it if you want. As far as I'm concerned, if it's legal, then fire away. The bird surely has the advantage with the visability offered by the tree. To me it's no difference than using a tree stand to hunt deer. Is it ethical to shoot a deer when your in a tree to gain the advantage?
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Post by bsutravis on Apr 4, 2006 17:22:51 GMT -5
I dunno....I wouldn't shoot a deer bedded down either.....or a rabbit sitting still. I sorta look at it like not disturbing a squirrel nest to get the squirrel to come out. When an animal is napping or nesting I just don't look at is as fair game. Once the animal gets up, than it's all good. If that roosting branch had twigs around it and was a true "nest" there's no way it would be legal to shoot into it. I guess I'm making a more strict law for myself when it comes to this topic.
I LOVE sneaking into a roosting area and have found myself leaning up on the tree that holds the gobbler....NEVER have I thought of shooting while it was on the roost. The whole thrill is talking it out of the tree and into your shooting zone. For me at least, it's HUNTING....and not KILLING.
Great debate though!
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