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Post by ridgerunner on Dec 2, 2009 11:37:29 GMT -5
boy, i hate to be the bad guy here, but shooting deer off a porch is not real deer hunting ,and i repeat "not real deer hunting"..i mentor young folks in hunting and fishing and trust me this kind of shooting from a porch is not a good way to teach our young folks...i can't believe that a adult would do that and i can't believe what i'm reading on this forum and i hope its a joke......heres a story that i witness: somedays i take a three mile walk to 8 th street and back sometimes i see deer, i pass this corn field and theres 3 deer feeding , boy thats nice ,i'll go to the corner and i hope there there when i get back,and they were ,and one more, a nice buck ,i'm standing in the road watching them and this guy comes out with a gun on his wooded deck and shoots the buck, i for one do not like this at all , i get home and my neighbor is coming out of his house and says"my son in law just shot a buck, i said i know"" i just seen the whole situations", and left it alone , but that guy lost all creditablity of being a deer hunter and sportman in my book!!!!being a long time hunter and sportsman, i do not like anybody ruining the sport i love!!!!!! come on man!!!!!!!!!!.................just my two cents...................turkey scout Shooting one off a porch is just making meat...Has nothing to do with hunting. Exactly Woody!Depends what a guys intent is...sometimes you gotta fill the freezer and if opourtunity knocks...Like said before if I'm hunting Big Trophy Deer it's a different ballgame...I prefer to 'hunt"... I live in the woods for one...so my house is like a BIG deerstand.... |
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Post by js2397 on Dec 2, 2009 11:43:11 GMT -5
Sometimes I think you hold these animals on too high of a pedestal. They are a resource to be managed just like anything else. If you live in an area with too many deer than by all means take one of the porch. If you want the meat go ahead and shoot it. If you just want to kill a deer and it is there fire away. Like someone why do you play? You play to win. No one that hunts would continue to hunt if they didn’t kill deer. So it is not my place to judge how someone else kills a deer if it is legal. There is no situation that is legal that I wouldn’t shoot a deer if I wanted to unless there was some safety issue.
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Post by hornharvester on Dec 2, 2009 12:18:13 GMT -5
If I wanted to hunt off my back porch what business is it of anyone else's? If I kill a record book buck off my back porch isn't it still a record as long as the deer are fair chase?
Very simply guys, don't chastise someone else for not hunting like you do! h.h.
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Post by INDeerhunter on Dec 2, 2009 12:18:37 GMT -5
I dont think I could shoot a deer from my porch but to each their own, if someone can and does shoot from the porch oh well. U know I have said it once and I will say it again "opinions are like a**holes every one has one and they all stink" lmao. It seems like takin a deer from ur porch takes all the "hunt" out of it, thats the part I love the most is puttin in the time and effort to get close to an animal in its enviroment and being able to harvest that deer knowing that I did it the right way. I sit in a stand or lenin up againist a tree thru heat, cold,rain sleet, or snow for hours and hours days and days to have a chance at fillin my freezer or takin a nice buck and shootin it off the porch doesnt tickle my fancy ! But again who am I to judge another I feel like "only God can judge me" and I dont try to judge others for legally takin a deer.... no matter how it is done.
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Post by oldhoyt on Dec 2, 2009 13:38:28 GMT -5
IMO, and as others have stated as their opinion, shooting a deer from the porch is not hunting. I don't think it's unethical, and I don't object to anyone doing it. But I don't call it hunting.
The groundhogs and rabbits I shoot out of my garden are not hunted, they are shot. The rabbits I shoot after jumping on a brushpile are hunted.
It's a little like the saying goes about pornography - "I don't really know how to define it, but I know it when I see it". Same goes for hunting, it's hard to split hairs as to what is/is not hunting. What about shooting a deer from an abandoned farmhouse or barn? To me it comes down to what your primary activity is at the time. If you are doing nothing besides watching for deer, maybe it is hunting. If you are getting up every 15 minutes from watching football on the TV to see if there's a deer in the yard, just maybe that's not hunting.
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Post by vectrix on Dec 2, 2009 14:41:42 GMT -5
Sometimes I think you hold these animals on too high of a pedestal. They are a resource to be managed just like anything else. If you live in an area with too many deer than by all means take one of the porch. If you want the meat go ahead and shoot it. If you just want to kill a deer and it is there fire away. Like someone why do you play? You play to win. No one that hunts would continue to hunt if they didn’t kill deer. So it is not my place to judge how someone else kills a deer if it is legal. There is no situation that is legal that I wouldn’t shoot a deer if I wanted to unless there was some safety issue. Well look there, we can agree on something. If it's legal then shoot, meat is meat. |
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Post by raporter on Dec 2, 2009 16:10:51 GMT -5
I cannot believe we are having this discusion on a HUNTING site.
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Post by turkeyscout on Dec 2, 2009 16:26:30 GMT -5
you are right bob, we go aways back in the sport of deer hunting and have a lot of respect for the animal we hunt and i believe in paying your dues,there are somethings you do when you are hunting deer and somethings you should not do ,and if you shoot a deer off a porch, then your are definitely a red -neck deer hunter!!!!!......turkey scout
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Post by 3ptbuck on Dec 2, 2009 21:45:17 GMT -5
I dont have a problem with it. If I had opportunity to kill a deer in my yard while i had still had room in my freezer i would. Dont know if i like the idea of wasting a tag on a yard deer though.
now if I still had a tag left to burn I would take one for sure. thats how i filled my fall turkey tag this year,lol. Had a lone bird feeding in my yard and shot it while standing just inside my front door. Just pushed the screen door open and let the 870 eat. I was really craving some turkey meat that day...
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Post by duff on Dec 2, 2009 22:05:58 GMT -5
I agree with Hoosier Hunter. I hunt deer in the woods, I mow grass in my yard. Nothing personal just don't need to shoot a deer that bad.
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Post by ridgerunner on Dec 2, 2009 22:46:35 GMT -5
Wonder how many hunters have shot a deer from their deerstand who can see a house or someones back porch from their treestand...?hmmm...Isn't that the same...just depends on your perspective..Most of the deer on my property travel up close to my house along the woodline...I can actually see my backyard/ house many times from where I sit in one of my deerstands, and I harvest a nice buck every year...is that wrong cuase I can see my house from where I hunt?.....
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Post by ridgerunner on Dec 2, 2009 22:52:29 GMT -5
I know a guy named Myles Keller who could tell you a story about a big buck he hunted hard not too far from an old widow farm ladies back porch and ended up taking it after several days of hunting...adaptation..gotta go where the deer are..and many time them big boys will lay right up in someones back yard...
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Post by TagTeamHunter on Dec 2, 2009 23:11:35 GMT -5
So what is "real" hunting? Anyone hunt over food plots? Use trail Cams to pattern deer? Use a modern rifle capable of taking deer at 100 plus yards? Use a Climber? Scent block? On and on and on ...
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Post by indybassin on Dec 2, 2009 23:35:05 GMT -5
So what is "real" hunting? Anyone hunt over food plots? Use trail Cams to pattern deer? Use a modern rifle capable of taking deer at 100 plus yards? Use a Climber? Scent block? On and on and on ... I was thinking the same thing. What's the difference of putting a stand up in a tree on a known trail on your property or sitting on the porch? Is "real" hunting going out to HNF and having to really hunt to find deer? "Hunting" for sport is one thing, I only really care about putting meat in the freezer. I'd LOVE to be able to sit in a HO bathrobe and smack some does. ;D |
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Post by scrub-buster on Dec 2, 2009 23:36:42 GMT -5
Several years ago I was headed out to go hunting. I took about 7 or 8 steps off of the porch and saw a buck in the tree line and shot it. Does this qualify as "hunting" to everyone?
What is the difference between shooting off of a porch or out of an elevated heated hunting blind?
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Post by lugnutz on Dec 3, 2009 0:19:37 GMT -5
shootem' off the back porch aint nearly as fun as hitting the woods with ur pals, or sitting in a stand surrounded by the wonderful wilderness. But push comes to shove, the deer shot off the back porch will taste just as good as the one that you hunted.
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Post by huntingman on Dec 3, 2009 7:15:10 GMT -5
as long as they taste the same except if they where a fawn
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Post by turkeyscout on Dec 3, 2009 8:58:36 GMT -5
i also wonder,those folks that live in the woods and shooting deer off the porch , do they really use their tag and go to the check station and check thier trophy in?  ?..............turkey scout |
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Post by js2397 on Dec 3, 2009 9:41:33 GMT -5
i also wonder,those folks that live in the woods and shooting deer off the porch , do they really use their tag and go to the check station and check thier trophy in? ?..............turkey scout I wonder if those guys that go out hunting use their tags or just haul the deer back home and process them. My guess is there is a far greater number of deer not shot off the backporch that are illegal. |
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Post by ridgerunner on Dec 3, 2009 11:24:17 GMT -5
i also wonder,those folks that live in the woods and shooting deer off the porch , do they really use their tag and go to the check station and check thier trophy in? ?..............turkey scout I wonder if those guys that go out hunting use their tags or just haul the deer back home and process them. My guess is there is a far greater number of deer not shot off the backporch that are illegal. I agree js2397..I would say guys who own their own land respect the land and wildlife game laws moreso...and since a landowner just has to write a piece of paper out to tag a deer on his or her land it would be stupid not to since it's FREE..lol |
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?..............turkey scout